Converting MCE MPeg files to straight MPeg files

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Eric, Dec 29, 2003.

  1. Eric

    Eric Guest

    I didn't catch "Ray's" original message, but I assume it
    is similar to my concern. I have the "older" version of
    MCE on a Gateway that I purchased new last January. All I
    ever wanted to do was record movies from TV and burn them
    onto DVD's which could, in turn, be played on any stand
    alone DVD player. To my amazement and disappointment, no
    such deal with MCE. So, I had to go through a bunch of
    junk (with a lot of help from this newsgroup) to be able
    to bipass MCE and use a third pary program (WinTV) to
    capture the movie in MPeg, THEN I was about to use
    Pinnacle's Studio 8 for editing/rendering/burning.
    Although all this is fine and works quite well, I still
    would like to be able to record using MCE (and use the
    nifty remote features), then jump right to Pinnacle for
    the remainder of the procedure for burning to DVD.
    Presently, I don't even use MCE to watch/record movies.
    As far as I am concerned, if I can't burn it to DVD, then
    I'll just use my TV for watching a program. Has anyone
    come up with a program that converts the MCE Mpeg format
    to simple MPeg? Keep in mind that, as I understand it,
    only certain combinations of Tuner cards/Movie Making
    programs work. I don't want to spend any more money,
    especially if my combination of components won't yield
    the desired results. Any help/info. would be much


    Eric, Dec 29, 2003
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  2. Eric,

    If you want to go from MS-DVR to DVD, then you can use Sonic's MyDVD and put
    it on a DVD. After that, you can use a wealth of programs to grab the MPEG
    from the DVD.
    Andy Vanosdale [MCE MVP], Dec 29, 2003
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  3. Eric

    Bob Guest

    In addition to MyDVD, other DVD Authoring software that supports DVR-MS
    include the latest versions of InterVideo WinDVD Creator, Nero 6.0 Ultra,
    and Cyberlink PowerDirector. I beleive that these are all available as free
    trial versions, so you can see which one you like best before buying.

    But of course you said you didn't want to spend any more money, so you might
    want to try DVR-Ripper -- a free DVR-MS to MPEG-2 converter (extractor),
    which is available on the download page at

    Bob, Dec 29, 2003
  4. Eric

    dondi Guest

    I dont believe anyone has gotten Nero 6 to work yet, if Im not
    mistaken. No audio in the resulting MPGs. CyberLink's PowerDirector3
    is king of the hill for me. Fast fast fast fast and great editing

    -- Dondi
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    dondi, Dec 29, 2003
  5. Eric

    Bob Guest

    Yup. I just made a VCD using Nero, and got no audio. :-( Very
    disappointing, as I really liked the whole package.

    I still haven't gotten around to trying PowerDirector or WinDVD Creator yet.
    But based on what I've read so far in this newsgroup, they both sound like
    better alternatives than Sonic MyDVD.


    Bob, Dec 29, 2003
  6. Eric

    JAS Guest

    Do try PowerDirectory 3. I think you will be pleased (I am). The only
    issue that I have has was that after installing it on an MCE machine it
    wanted to install the MS patch to access .dvr-ms files on non-MCE XP
    machines. Don't try to load it on an MCE machine. Just hit continue and
    retry the import operation and it will convert .dvr-ms to .mpg.

    JAS, Dec 29, 2003
  7. Eric

    Samuel Guest

    it makes you wonder why MS didn't use their own WMV format for the DVD recordings, so that they can be edited in movie maker. or why multiple file types were not supported when recording. Why are crucial options like this always missed out.

    Samuel, Jan 5, 2004
  8. The issue is not as simple as you think. Todays TV tuner boards do not
    support direct encoding to wmv which is highly CPU intensive. Also MPEG
    alone does not allow storing of additional data (Program Metadata, title,
    date, description, etc) which the DVR-MS file does. Essentially the DVR-MS
    file is and MPEG file with and ASF wrapper to store the metadata. 3rd Party
    programs like Sonic and Nero are able to unwrap these files. II expect many
    folks to comment on this revived thread ;-)

    Ed Rich [MSFT]
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.

    recordings, so that they can be edited in movie maker. or why multiple file
    types were not supported when recording. Why are crucial options like this
    always missed out.
    Ed Rich [MSFT], Jan 6, 2004
  9. Sorry, but I do not believe this is true. According to ISO 13818-1, you can
    put several streams in a program stream file, and there _are_ "User
    Private" stream types. For things like title, date, description, you
    wouldn't even need that - you could just add a "User Private" descriptor to
    the video stream.

    If MCE would stick to ISO 13818-1 files, it should still be able to store
    an arbitrary number of streams (e.g. one video and _all_ associated audio
    streams, which it currently doesn't do), and every standard MPEG-2 Decoder
    would be able to play these files, even if it could not take advantage of
    the extra data stored in the file (i.e. it wouldn't show
    title/date/description and play the default audio stream).

    And as to encryption to enforce DRM - you could do that based on ISO
    13818-1 as well, just store the encrypted streams in "user private"

    I really don't see any _good_ reason for this proprietary DVR-MS format.

    Robert Schlabbach, Jan 6, 2004
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