Converting or formatting NTFS to FAT32

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by hyperfee, Feb 11, 2008.

  1. hyperfee

    hyperfee Guest

    I have a 750GB Iomega Minimax drive and have formatted it to NTFS. I have
    then partitioned it into 128GB partitions (for use on a Mac) but want to
    convert or reformat it to FAT32 so I can read and write on both the Windows
    Vista PC and the Mac. When I go into Computer Management and then Disk
    Management and try to format the drive to FAT32 it only gives the option of
    NTFS. A CDROM came with the drive with FAT32 converter on but it doesn't load
    any of the drives when I load the program up.
     
    hyperfee, Feb 11, 2008
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    why Guest

    So far as i know,Fat32 support upto only 32GB!
     
    why, Feb 11, 2008
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  3. Also FAT32 is more vulnerable to disk crashes.

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    Man-wai Chang ToDie, Feb 11, 2008
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    silver Guest

    Correct Fat 32 will only recognise 32gb size.

    Reduce 128gb to 32gb and try that.
     
    silver, Feb 11, 2008
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    eMZii Guest

    vista disk management doesn't have the fat32 option, no matter what siz
    of a partition
     
    eMZii, Feb 11, 2008
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    Bob Guest

    Once you convert a drive or partition to NTFS, you cannot simply convert it
    back to FAT or FAT32. You will need to reformat the drive or partition which
    will erase all data, including programs and personal files, on the
    partition.
     
    Bob, Feb 11, 2008
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    Don Guest

    This is not true.
     
    Don, Feb 11, 2008
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    Don Guest

    Reference please???
     
    Don, Feb 11, 2008
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    Xenomorph Guest

    FAT32 is limited to 127 Gigabytes under Windows 9x.

    Outside of Win9x, FAT32 partitions can be at least 2 Terabytes.

    There is no "32gb" limitation with FAT32.

    Source:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat32
     
    Xenomorph, Feb 11, 2008
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  10. hyperfee

    Xenomorph Guest

    There are multiple programs, such as Partition Magic (and possibly GParted)
    that allow you to convert from NTFS to FAT32 (back and forth as much as you
    want) without any loss of data or without requiring a format.

    It is misleading to tell someone you can't do this simply because Microsoft
    does not include the tool.

    Converting from NTFS to FAT32 would require that no files are compressed or
    encrypted on the NTFS partition, and a cluster size re-adjustment may be
    needed after conversion.
    It is something I have personally done before without data loss.
     
    Xenomorph, Feb 11, 2008
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  11. hyperfee

    NoStop Guest

    Since people cannot offer you a Windows solution to accomplish what you want
    to do, let me suggest an alternative. The Vista Fanboys will attack me for
    mentioning it, but here goes anyways, because it is an easy solution.

    You can use a Linux liveCD to accomplish what you want to do. Both are
    freely available for download. It'll require you to download an ISO file
    and then using something like Nero, burn that image to a CD-R. You'd then
    boot your computer from the CD you've created and from there you can deal
    with reformatting those partitions to FAT32. Of course, you'll lose any
    data in those partitions you reformat.

    1) Download the Ubuntu liveCD for 32bit 86 systems. Burn the CD, boot the
    computer from the CD (a BIOS setting may be required to make your CD/DVD
    drive your first bootable device). You'll be running Ubuntu on your
    computer but it'll be running in RAM from the liveCD. On the panel bar on
    the top of the screen you'll see System. Click that and then
    Administration --> Partition Editor. If you have the external USB2 hard
    drive hooked up to your box, you'll be able to find it and deal with
    reformatting partitions to FAT32.

    This option will give you a full Linux Ubuntu that you can then install on
    your hard drive permanently if you want to dual boot Vista and Ubuntu.
    It'll be a fairly large ISO, occupying a whole CD.

    http://www.ubuntu.com

    2) Download the SystemRescueCd. This is a really stripped down Linux distro
    that only includes basic tools for dealing with problems you may be
    experiencing. It also includes the GParted program that comes with the
    Ubuntu liveCD but you're talking about an ISO file of 163MB in size. You'd
    burn it just like the other ISO to a CD-R and then boot your computer with
    it. This CD will also include other utilities like:

    ntpass - to edit Windows login passwords
    gparted - for dealing with hd partitions
    firefox - web browser
    Partition Image - for backing up hd partitions to image files, like Acronis
    True Image (commercial product)
    Midnight Commander - a file browser that will let you get access to files on
    your system should the o/s you're using not boot.

    and other utilities and apps. You can look at the screenshots on the link
    below to see what gparted looks like.

    http://www.sysresccd.org

    In either case, be careful that you're working with the correct hard drive
    and not your internal NTFS hard drive that contains Vista!

    HTH

    Cheers.


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    NoStop, Feb 11, 2008
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    cheen Guest

    my god all the stupid responses in here!

    Download Gparted and burn it to a disk

    boot from that and do anything you can imagine

    for free!

    http://gparted-livecd.tuxfamily.org/

    this will have no limits on the fat formating...
     
    cheen, Feb 11, 2008
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    cheen Guest

    cheen, Feb 11, 2008
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    dzomlija Guest

    You'll have to format from the command line:

    - <WINKEY>+<R>
    - type "CMD" (without quotes), press ENTER
    - Type "FORMAT X: /FS:FAT32" and press <ENTER> (without quotes. X:
    is the drive you want to format)
    - When formatting is complete, type EXIT to close the command prompt


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    Don Guest

    All of you are confusing what can be formatted and what can be read.

    Yes there is a 32GB limit to format the drive as Fat32 with MS
    operating systems. If one uses a third party program then the 32GB
    limit no longer applies and in fact larger partitions can be read by
    MS operating systems.

    The FAT32 file system is not limited to 32GB.

    The OP wants to convert NTFS to FAT32. The MS operating systems will
    not do this without losing the data. Third party programs will make
    that conversion without losing data. Partition Magic is one for
    example. It is wise to back up the data first anytime you are doing
    these conversions.
     
    Don, Feb 11, 2008
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  16. I used VCOM System Commander 9.04 to partition my 320GB HD (orig. all NTFS)
    with a FAT32 partition so that I could install Windows 98 SE to play my
    games that would not work in Vista.
     
    Robert E. Pilger, Feb 11, 2008
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    Tim Slattery Guest

    Not true. Windows XP and Vista will not create a FAT32 partition
    larger than 32GB (since NTFS is available and is a MUCH better choice
    for such large partitions), but other disk utilities, including the
    Win98 version of FDISK, will create much larger FAT32 partitions, and
    the later versions of Windows will use those with no problems.

    AFAIK, you'll need a third-party tool to convert a partition from NTFS
    to FAT32. When you do that, you'll lose some file meta-data that you
    see on an NTFS system when you right-click, and choose "Properties".
    Some of that data is stored in NTFS named streams (see
    http://members.cox.net/slatteryt/Streams.html). Since streams don't
    exist in FAT32, that data would disappear.
     
    Tim Slattery, Feb 11, 2008
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  18. hyperfee

    NoStop Guest

    And does "much more" than what? Certainly not more than the 2 suggestions I
    made below. (BTW, why do you always top post?) Of course, your suggestion
    certainly is another option to accomplish just what the OP needs to
    accomplish today. My suggestions can come in far more useful for more
    things should he not be able to boot into his o/s or is interested in
    trying out a liveCD Linux operating system.

    Cheers.

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    ^^^^^
    I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.
     
    NoStop, Feb 11, 2008
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  19. Sorry, that is not correct.

    Windows XP and Vista will not *create* a FAT32 partition larger than
    32GB, but it will happily use one if created externally.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Feb 11, 2008
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  20. hyperfee

    NoStop Guest

    Since I'm suspecting that the drive the OP is using is an external drive,
    probably USB2, will Win98 be able to deal with it?

    Cheers.

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    AlexB: "If it is Business or Ultimate open Command Prompt as administrator
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    ^^^^^
    I must say the developers at Microsoft do have a sense of humour.
     
    NoStop, Feb 11, 2008
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