Defragger that handles Volume Shadow Copy

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by GW, Jun 26, 2005.

  1. GW

    GW Guest

    Can anyone tell me if ANY of the Enterprise Defragementing Tools can handle
    Volume Shadow Enabled Volumes?

    Before someone incorrectly says anything - VS and defragmenting tools ae not
    meant to work together due to VS file / table layout and corruptions.

    Let me know if you know of one out there - FYI - LATEST Diskeeper or Perfect
    Disk does NOT have the feature to defrag a Volume Shadow enabled volume.
     
    GW, Jun 26, 2005
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    lforbes Guest

    Hi,

    I am curious as to get more info from you on Volume Shadow copies vs
    defrags. I run Shadow copies on all my DC's data drives. I scheduled just
    the Windows defrag to defrag my 160GB Data drive on my File server. It
    scheduled, ran and defragged fine without errors. It was badly fragmented.
    Defrag didn't warn me or anything about Shadow copy?

    Thanks

    Lara
     
    lforbes, Jun 27, 2005
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  3. Hello GW,

    Thank you for posting in the SBS newsgroup.

    Also, many thanks for Lara's great input.

    According to your description, I understand that you would like to defrag a
    Volume Shadow enabled volume. If I have misunderstood your concern, please
    don't hesitate to let me know.

    Lara is right, the defragment of the system build-in tool can defrag the
    Volume Shadow enabled volume. If you would like to use it, please refer to
    the KB article 312067 to install the hotfix at first before performing the
    defragment.

    312067 Shadow copies may be lost when you defragment a volume
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=312067

    Additionally, you may refer to the below KB article:

    833167 A Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) update package is available for
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=833167

    283080 Description of the New Command Line Defrag.exe Included with Windows
    XP
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=283080

    227463 Disk Defragmenter Limitations in Windows 2000, Windows XP, and
    Windows
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=227463


    I hope this helps. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not
    hesitate to let me know. I am always happy to be of further assistance.

    Best regards,

    Nathan Liu (MSFT)
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    Nathan Liu [MSFT], Jun 27, 2005
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    Jersey Joe Guest

    Diskeeper v9 does work with Volume Shadow copies but only nuder very secial
    conditions.
    1- Your disk cluster size must be 16KB or larger. The defaul it 4KB.
    2- If you use 16 KB cluster size then you can not use NTFS compression on
    your disks.
    3- Assuming you don't care about disk compression and you can use or
    change to a 16KB cluster size then you still need to set the VSS option
    inside Diskeeper.

    My disks use 4KB clusters and I need compression so I'm planning on turning
    off VSS on the weekends and doingan intensive defrag then.

    I wish there was a better way.
     
    Jersey Joe, Jul 1, 2005
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  5. Hello Jersey,

    Thank you for your shared information.

    Best regards,

    Nathan Liu (MSFT)
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    Nathan Liu [MSFT], Jul 4, 2005
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  6. I am having this same issue as well.
    I have contacted by Phone support for Executive Software makers of the award
    winning diskeeper software. They explained that due to VS that Diskeeper does
    not work on SBS 2003.
    This is disappointing, I have not found a defragmenting software that works
    on SBS and also disappointing because Diskeeper noticeably will speed up
    drive seek time on the first pass. Plus, its just so much better than built
    in windows defragmenting software.

    Does anyone use 3rd party defragmenting software on their SBS that
    successfully works with VS?
     
    Armand Salmon, Jul 22, 2005
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  7. Since VSS is not specific to SBS 2003 (it's built-in to Windows Server
    2003), Executive Software must be having problems with more than just
    SBS customers!

    Personally, I just use the Task Scheduler to schedule periodic (weekly,
    but could be more frequent if needed) runs of the built-in Windows
    defragger during "off hours." It may not be the ultimate, but it has
    been "good enough" for me and my customers.

    -- Owen Williams
    ClearView Technology Consulting, LLC
     
    Owen Williams, Jul 23, 2005
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