Defragment

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Dina, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. Dina

    Dina Guest

    -EVERY TIME I USE THE DEFRAGMENT, I GET THE SAME MESSAGE AFTER IT
    FINISHES DEFRAGMENT (USUALY IT TAKE ONE HOUR TO DEFRAGMENT).-

    ! YOUR FILE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE CAN BE IMPROVED[/B]
    *IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT YOU DEFRAGMENT NOW.
    *-I have tried to run it manually and automaticaly. I always get the
    same message. After that message, I click Run Defragment, it takes
    anoher hour and then, same message -*
    *! YOUR FILE SYSTEM PERFORMANCE CAN BE IMPROVED*
    *IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT YOU DEFRAGMENT NOW.**


    *-I HAVE THIS LAPTOP ABOUT A MONTH. I HAVE CALLED DELL UPPORT BUT
    UNFORTUNATLY, THEY CANNOT HELP ME, THEY SAY IT IS NORMAL FOR THAT ERROR
    MESSAGE, IS IT?-
    -Please help me, I donot want my new laptop to be damaged so soon.-*

    *-Thank you for reading-*
    *-D :)-*
     
    Dina, Dec 7, 2008
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  2. Dina

    jcgriff2 Guest

    jcgriff2, Dec 7, 2008
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  3. Suggesting alternative software may do the job, but it does not help the OP (or other readers) solve the underlying problem.
    Do you have any idea why the Windows Defrag software does not work?

    These news groups are intended to help solve basic problems with Vista Performance.
    I get a bit disappointed at:
    People tying to sell their preference for Linux and
    People acting like spoiled juveniles with flaming and name calling.
     
    Richard in AZ, Dec 7, 2008
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  4. I would recommend that you don't run the defragger manually.

    In a default Vista installation it runs automatically, once per week. It
    runs slowly (lowest I/O and CPU priority) and doesn't interfere with your
    work in any way.

    Furthermore, it works. If you just leave it be, disk fragmentation will
    never get severe enough to affect the performance of your machine.

    Having said that, I don't understand why you are getting that report back
    each time you use it. Would you tell us EXACTLY how you are initiating the
    defragmentation?

    SteveT
     
    Steve Thackery, Dec 7, 2008
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  5. Dina

    Dina Guest

    *-Thank you all for trying to assist me and jcgriff2 without been smart,
    I would just wanted the Defragment utility that came with the OS will
    work. You see dear, this way, I will make certain perhaps that other
    utilities in Vista are working preporly.-*
    *--*
    *-Steve dear, I also appreciate your assistance.-*
    *-During the month I have own this laptop, I have run the disc
    defragmentation two ways:-*
    *-a) in auto mode-*
    *-b) manually-*
    *- as I previously mentioned on my first message, no matter in which
    mode I -*
    *- run the defrag. I always get the ame message -! Your file system
    performance can be improved
    *it is recommended that you defragment now.*
    -I tried to run it last night, it was working for one hour, then got
    the same error.-*
    *--*
    *-These are the steps that I am taking starting the defragmentation:-*
    *-a) close all open programs (that inclludes making the screen saver to
    off)-*
    *-b) click Strat>All Programs>Accessories>System Tools>Disc
    Deframenter-*
    *-c) In manual mode (for testing reasons when Run on a schedule
    (recommended) is not checked, I click "Defragment now..." and after one
    hour or so, I am getting -! Your file system performance can be improved
    *it is recommended that you defragment now.*
    *
    *-If you need to read the specifications of my laptop, they are on my
    profile.-*
    **
    *-PS: Please forgive my English ladies and gentleman, as this language
    isn't my main language, I am foreigner residing in your lovely country
    of the USA.-
    *
     
    Dina, Dec 7, 2008
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    Fred Guest

    Your English is fine but all the asterisks are very annoying.
     
    Fred, Dec 8, 2008
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  7. Dina

    jcgriff2 Guest


    I appreciate and do note your comments; however...

    I don't get a "bit disappointed" by the last two items you stated - I
    am absolutely appalled by such actions. I do get disappointed by
    non-contributing informational posts.

    I fully understand the intended purpose of these newsgroups and forums
    as I am a Moderator, Microsoft Support, elsewhere with a proven track
    record of solved threads and have contributed over 6,000 posts in the
    last 10 months - most of which include troubleshooting major Vista
    system issues and BSOD crash dump analysis.

    No, I don't (yet) know the reason the Vista defrag appears not to be
    functioning properly. The intended purpose of my suggestion to run
    Auslogics defrag was to see if it would successfully complete. If the
    message from the Vista defrag then continued, my next suggestion would
    be to run cleanmgr, sfc, HDD diagnostics, chkdsk, investigation of
    WERCON and the Event Viewer System & Application logs to see what other
    problems exist within the OPs system that may have precipitated the
    defrag messages. I don't believe the only system issue the OP has is the
    Vista defrag utility. I wouldn't be surprised to find interrupts and
    page faults present in PERFMON. Hopefully we'll soon know.

    @*Dina* - I would suggest that you run the Vista system health report -
    save it in HTML format -
    START | type *perfmon /rel* - hit enter | 60 seconds the output will
    appear in the Reliability & Performance Monitor viewer; click on File;
    Save; save as report file - HTML file extension.

    Run msinfo32 and save as an NFO (system info file) -
    START | type *msinfo32* - hit enter | the viewer will appear | Save the
    file in NFO format - you'll see the NFO default file extension when you
    go to save it.

    Zip up the HTML and NFO files and attach to your next post.

    Regards. . .

    jcgriff2

    ..
     
    jcgriff2, Dec 8, 2008
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  8. Very good response. I did not realize your suggested change in defrag software was to check the system.
    My use of "disappointed" in the last reference was an attempt to stay out of the flame wars.
    I learn a lot from these news groups and can occasionally even help.
     
    Richard in AZ, Dec 8, 2008
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  9. Dina

    jcgriff2 Guest


    Hi Richard. . .

    Tried to send PM, but could not. So I will make non-related thread
    topic post here.

    My apologies if I flamed any fans here - I should and do know better.
    You would have no way of knowing what my intended purpose was w/
    Auslogics defrag. I had just finished long BSOD thread only to find out
    Vista cracked copy. Nothing worse than spending time trying to help only
    to find out there was never a chance for solution b/c of illegal Vista.

    I agree w/ you about subversion of Vista w/Linux and alternatives as
    that is not the answer to a stable Vista OS.

    Kind Regards. . .

    JC

    ..
     
    jcgriff2, Dec 8, 2008
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  10. Dina

    kalieta Guest

    Hello everyone,
    I've been having the same problem as Dina, and i don't know what to do
    My HP laptop has been running really slow lately so I decided t
    defragment it but it doesn't seem to work.
    jcgriff2, i did what you said and i ran the -perfmon /rel -and als
    -msinfo32. -I am joining my zipped files and hope you can propose me
    solution.
    -Thank you for your help.
     
    kalieta, Mar 28, 2009
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  11. Dina

    Charlie Tame Guest

    Instead of running defrag try "Check disk for errors" and when you do so
    check both boxes. This may help as disk errors can cause slow disk
    performance. Also, if you are running AVG antivirus (Free) try removing
    that and get the new version or something else (Not Norton or MacAfee).
     
    Charlie Tame, Mar 30, 2009
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  12. Dina

    jcgriff2 Guest

    Hi

    Thanks for files

    You have 1 GB installed RAM. Vista really needs 2 GB RAM to run wit
    any efficiency. Your system is using virtual memory (the hard drive -
    page file) to make up for lack of physical memory (RAM).

    I would highly suggest that you upgrade RAM to 2GB, even 3GB. x86 can'
    use more than ~3.3GB. RAM is much cheaper today than XP days. Be sure t
    get matching RAM sticks (I recommend all new RAM), otherwise you ma
    find yourself back here in search of help with BSODs

    Also, I see quite a few programs running out of HP program folder tha
    I do not recognize. Same with other folders. Then there is this item
    found in the loaded module listing

    Code
    -------------------

    lcres 1.7.109.0 379,77 KB (388 888 bytes)
    02.10.2007 19:1
    Корпорация Майкрософт (Microsoft Corp.)
    c:\program files\windows live\messenger\lcres.dl


    -------------------

    Reports tell me you are US and English language. If you know what thi
    is - great. But I don't know of no reason for what appears Russia
    language driver to be in US English system. Infection may be present

    Good Luck to you

    Regards. .

    jcgriff
     
    jcgriff2, Mar 31, 2009
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  13. Dina

    fariz Guest

    there is another alternative for vista...firstly u just need to open
    cmd(as administrator)
    then type in 'defrag c: -w'..or copy it..without the quot though..this
    will do full fragmentation..you can also change to disk that u wish to
    defrag..then wait till new line appear,that means the defrag is
    finish..1st time i did this i have to wait about 2 hours though depends
    the size of the hard disk..hehe after i defrag my hard disk increase by
    1 gb..but i do feel my system running faster..or it just me..hee
     
    fariz, Apr 9, 2009
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    lacy Guest

    WhenI click on the disk defragment . It will not open up.
    I have run Disk cleanup and my Nortons anivirus
    Whay can I do to correct htis problem.
    lacy
     
    lacy, Apr 26, 2009
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    Noel Paton Guest

    try booting to Safe Mode and running Defrag from there
     
    Noel Paton, Apr 27, 2009
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