Delete files inside $hf_mig$ ?

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by Lady Dungeness, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. Anyone interesting in seeing the entire 2 year + ~4 month old post?

    Agreed - my time is better spent on something worthwhile.

    I wouldn't probably even consider the risks - as the 'benefits' wouldn't
    even tempt me into it originally. hah

    A few MBs in a TB world just isn't high on my list. ... And if I made a bad
    decision and/or just kept the machine so long that it is legitimately
    running out of space - I think I can afford the $20-$100 for
    double/triple/10+ times the space it originally had and/or move the stuff
    that shouldn't be on that drive/partition elsewhere with the time I would
    waste trying to reverse-engineer the mysteries of an 8-year old OSes
    'updating system quirks'. ;-)
    Shenan Stanley, Nov 1, 2009
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  2. Lady Dungeness

    bitwyse Guest

    (BTW - this stupid forum management program doesn't allow you to edit your
    own contributions; 9 times out of 10 you can't log in directly but have to do
    it elsewhere; and the e-mail reply notification loops infinitely and simply
    doesn't work - but then maybe it uses some trick that my
    configuration/firewall won't allow - quite rightly.)

    ....and additionally there is still a copy of the 'KB*.cat' in the same
    How many duplicate files do we need? - if I shouldn't delete the CatRoot
    copy, then I can delete the $hf_mig$ copy...
    (but I'm now working on how to get rid of everything that is obsolete - so
    any precise, detailed information will be much appreciated)

    Next scenario (generalised and ultra-simplified so as to be understandable
    by anyone):
    KB000001 to KB000010 install successive versions 1 to 10 of 'file.dll'.
    KB000011 comes along and proposes to install version 9 - so version 10 from
    '$hf_mig$\KB000010' is used instead.
    So why do I need to keep '$hf_mig$\KB000001' to '$hf_mig$\KB000009'?
    Logically, Windows update should check versions in reverse order (latest
    first). Must I believe that that isn't the case?
    bitwyse, Nov 1, 2009
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    Anyone interesting in seeing the entire 2 year + ~4 month old post?


    You are mistaken in your belief this is a web forum...

    It's a web interface (horrible one) to a news server - not a web forum. If
    you want to use these groups as they were originally intended to be used -
    you need a newsreader of some sort. ;-)
    Shenan Stanley, Nov 1, 2009
  4. Lady Dungeness

    CriCri Guest


    Shenan Stanley a écrit :
    Thanks for the information. It's certainly much easier in a newsgroup.
    I just found the web interface while searching Internet for more
    precise, detailed information than KB824994; and hoped to get some
    insider tips.
    Why bother? - see my reply to Harry ;-)

    (I found a solution to the login problem: when invited, delete all the
    cookies planted by and go to MSN and log in,
    then return directly to the original page. It works most times.)

    CriCri, Nov 2, 2009
  5. Lady Dungeness

    CriCri Guest


    Harry Johnston [MVP] a écrit :
    I'm not particularly bothered personnally by $hf_mig$ (600MB) - although
    I _do_ clean up a lot of other stuff (including '$NTUninstall KBnnnnnn$'
    folders). I don't like keeping a lot of totally unused programmes and
    data on my hard disk, and all that lets me keep complete ASR backups of
    the 'C:' system and programmes partition of a very wide-ranging
    professional system (XP SP2 with Visual C++, DreamWeaver, PhotoShop and
    many other database, spreadsheet, graphics, publishing, video editing
    and multimedia programs) all on one DVD. Since I keep 4 such backups in
    rotation that's worthwhile.
    Good housekeeping typically reduces the total disk space used by around 50%.
    (I should have put Windows and the programmes on separate partitions,
    but since everything started from 3.11 then Win95 it was too much effort
    to change.)
    I got interested in reducing the 'footprint' of '$hf_mig$' when a second
    client asked me what could be done (for their own reasons) - like 'Lady
    D' and 'Joey O'. There are clearly many people interested and we always
    try to find solutions (even if only workarounds) for good clients ;-)
    I'm pretty sure I will find one (we rarely fail) - and people that just
    say "it isn't possible" only encourage our efforts!

    CriCri, Nov 2, 2009
  6. Lady Dungeness

    MowGreen Guest

    *Anything* is possible but is it worth the time ? That all depends on
    the size of the HD.

    Here's a detailed, outstanding article on the intricacies of deleting
    content of the $hf_mig$:

    How to delete unused folders and files located within the $hf_mig$
    folder – Part 1

    How to delete unused folders and files located within the $hf_mig$
    folder – Part 2

    Pay special attention to JS' conclusion:

    " With PCs purchased within the last 5 years hard drive sizes range from
    160GB on up to 500GB or more. The exceptions being laptops and entry
    level desktop computers where a PC only a few years old may still have a
    40GB or smaller hard drive. For users who are limited by smaller size
    hard drive sizes freeing up 2GB or more space can make a difference. For
    the rest of us who have one or more large hard drives it most likely not
    worth your time or effort. "

    The Typical Home User does not have the technical acumen required to
    delete content from the $hf_mig$ subfolder.
    And, they should never touch content in CatRoot. Ever.

    *-343-* FDNY
    Never Forgotten
    "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked"
    MowGreen, Nov 6, 2009
  7. Lady Dungeness

    QWICKY Guest

    Hello bitwyse,

    I'm trying to clean my hard drive up since I installed XP about 8 years ago
    on a 12 gig partition (BIG mistake!). Anyway, I'm down to about 300megs free
    on C: with hibernation enabled and need space BAD!

    I'm a little tired and trying to understand what folders I can delete out of
    my $hf_mig$ folder. I've provided a screen shot of my folder and highlighted
    what folders seems to be duplicates. Which their weren't many. I'm assuming
    any updates that are older aren't needed anymore by the branch or whatever?
    Let me know if you would. Thanks. Can I delete the folders I have highlighted
    without messing up windows updating system?
    QWICKY, Dec 12, 2009
  8. Lady Dungeness

    Leffrey Guest

    It seems ridiculous that we would need to have 10 copies of shell32.dll (8MB
    each) and 10 copies of IEFrame.dll (6MB each), etc on our system. After
    every few KB installs, a new version of these dlls is added while none of
    the previous versions in the KB subfolders is removed. Ok...keep 1 or 2
    versions - but 10 is ridiculous. This folder has grown to over 1GB now and
    the space on the 12GB C: Partition (originally recommended by MS) has less
    than 400 MB left. Microsoft, where are you? Can someone offer a simple
    answer to getting rid of so many of these duplicate drive space hogging files?
    Leffrey, Feb 22, 2010
  9. Lady Dungeness

    ssnobody Guest

    If you have SP3, then it would be safe to delete all of the PRE-SP3 fixes as detailed in the links you posted. I've created a long script that attempts to delete each of the fixes detailed at
    Drop to a cmd prompt and CD to \windows\$hf_mig$ (start->run type cmd and hit enter, then in the black box that comes up type "cd \windows\$hf_mig$\" without quotes). Script follows:

    del /F /S /Q KB274261
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    ssnobody, Dec 24, 2012
  10. Lady Dungeness

    n185ra Guest

    I have an old production RAID Server 2003 SP 2 which is severely hampered with 2.2 GB of hf_mig in a small C: partition. I have moved all the NtUninstall files, and desparately need to clean up. I read but don't fully comprehend the pagestart article, and the above delete list looks most tempting, but unsure if it will work for me. If you KNOW about how to clean files out of hf_mig, please contact me at duncan at air base 1 . com - concatenated, of course.
    n185ra, Feb 13, 2013
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