Dell Windows MediaPlayer 10 mp3 encoding problems?

Discussion in 'Windows Media Player' started by Gerardo Jaime, Feb 1, 2006.

  1. Having trouble with MediaPlayer 10 mp3 encoding on a Dell PC?

    I've seen these solutions;

    Remove all other encoders like Sonic or Creative Labs junk.

    Change the bitrate to anything but 128.

    Change or remove the LowBitRateSample in the registry.

    None of which worked for me until I tried the following;

    Copy the l3codeca.acm and l3codecp.acm from the i386 folder to the
    C:\windows\system32 to replace any versions that may have become corrupted.

    If it still doesn't work try changing the PreferredCodecPath value located
    in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Settings\MP3Encoding to
    C:\WINDOWS\system32\l3codecp.acm.

    I've read that it disables crossfading and not to use it continuously but I
    have been and it seems to work fine. At least until M$ releases an update.
    Or MP11.
     
    Gerardo Jaime, Feb 1, 2006
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  2. Gerardo Jaime

    zachd [ms] Guest

    The above two steps are redundant. Just remove LowBitRateSample if it's
    set.
    If anyone can show me an example of PreferredCodecPath being set to
    "l3codeca.acm" out of the box on any system, I would be very grateful.
    "l3codeca" would only be the value set on a system either configured by
    people who read 3rd party broken instructions that I worked for years to
    correct (reference "encode MP3 with WMP" - I believe winsupersite.com among
    others had this broken information) or by pirate codec packs or their users
    who don't understand that "l3codeca" specifically indicates encoding
    restrictions as instituted by FhG.
    Well, it should be that anyways. That would be where I would have started
    and is the key first check.
    Neither of those conjectures is true. MP3Encoding only affects decode, not
    encode, so cross-fading is unaffected. And I don't know who said anything
    about "not us[ing] it continuously", but that's not the case either. =)

    Intriguingly, a reinstall of WMP10 should have fixed this for you (other
    than a broken LowBitRateSample value). WMP11 will fix both aspects for you.
    It's only 3rd parties who were stomping on our values and making "M$" (sic)
    look bad. Which is sad because people like me really do bust butt trying to
    make everything work for you. But no matter - I appreciate your interest in
    the player, and I'll try to make sure it's as perfect as possible in the
    code that I touch or write. =)

    Cheers,
    -Zach
     
    zachd [ms], Feb 1, 2006
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  3. It was a Dell Machine with Windows Media Center. It doesn't allow a
    reinstall of WMP10, it says a newer version exists, and you can't uninstall
    it either. It uninstalls the shortcuts.

    No 3rd party apps were installed that did not come preinstalled with the
    system. I know it has some Sonic software for ripping that Dell insists we
    use, but we would much rather use WMP10.

    Again, I'm sure a reinstall of WMP10 would fix the problem any of these 3rd
    party apps created, but its not possible to reinstall or uninstall it.

     
    Gerardo Jaime, Feb 8, 2006
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  4. Gerardo Jaime

    zachd [ms] Guest

    Which Sonic software? I can probably obtain a copy for the MS software
    library to take a gander at, in the worst case scenario.

    Right, the WMP10 INF installer (msoobci) actually is quite fragile, so you
    do NOT want to reinstall as a trouble-shooting method. (WMP11 will not use
    msoobci, so will not suffer from these problems.) Uninstalling/reinstalling
    is also not the soundest idea. Thankfully all you have to do here is update
    the PreferredCodecPath. =)

    Thanks,
    -Zach
    --
    (speaking for myself and doing this in my free time)
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --

     
    zachd [ms], Feb 8, 2006
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    woody Guest

    I have been following the threads involving mp3 encoding problems in WMP10
    with great interest. Thank you zachd (and others) for all your efforts.
    I just plugged in a brand new Dell XPS400 running Windows XP MCE 2005 w/
    update rollup 2. Here are my registry settings out of the box:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Settings\MP3Encoding

    Name: LowRateSample
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x5dc0


    Name: PreferredCodecName
    Type: REG_SZ
    Data: MPEG Layer-3

    Name: PreferredCodecPath
    Type: REG_SZ
    Data: C:\WINDOWS\system32\l3codeca.acm

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Preferences

    Name: MP3RecordRate
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x0002ee00 (192000)

    I could not rip to mp3 at all in WMP10. After resetting the lowrate sample
    to 0, and the preferedCodecPath to l3codecp.acm (as described in previous
    threads, and zachd's web page). I am now able to rip at 192kbps but cannot
    even select 128kbps (which would be my preference and I am able to do so on
    my other Dell 8200 running XP Home Edition and WMP10). The sliding bar in
    rip options only allows 56, 192, 256, or 320kbps. So far I've only tried
    ripping at 192kbps, and should probably try the other rates to see if they
    work.

    This Dell XPS400 also came with Sonic Solutions 2.0.0 RecordNow software
    which I removed in an effort to solve my problem. The Sonic Encoders
    (Version 1.0) are still installed on the system.

    I stopped short of trying to uninstall and reinstall WMP10, but when I was
    thinking about it I noticed a WMP10 Hotfix (See EmeraldQFE2 for more
    information). I wondered if this was a Microsoft Patch but could not find
    info about it. This is probably unrelated, but I thought I'd mention it
    because I was curious.

    Can anyone solve this 128kbps problem?


     
    woody, Feb 19, 2006
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  6. Gerardo Jaime

    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    That's horrible and sad. I'll follow up. Thank you very much for your
    confirmation.

    -Zach
    --
    Windows Media Development Team (speaking for myself only)
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --

     
    zachd [MSFT], Feb 20, 2006
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  7. Gerardo Jaime

    woody Guest

    FYI I tried ripping at the lowest setting (56kbps) and could not. Only 192
    and the two higher settings worked. It seems to me that this problem has
    been around for a couple of years. Has everyone who had it just settled for
    the 192kbs rate (or wma encoding)? I think 128kbs has been the standard
    for years, and makes for 30% smaller files. Why do I think that this is just
    some way to get mp3 fans to switch to wma? Tell me I'm just imagining this,
    or that Dell is responsible for my my situation.

    Woody


     
    woody, Feb 22, 2006
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  8. Gerardo Jaime

    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    Oh - you need to not set the LowRateSample to 0 - you need to delete that
    value. Sorry - if you could point me to where it says to set that to 0,
    I'll try to clean that doc up. =)

    -Zach
    --
    Windows Media Development Team (speaking for myself only)
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --

     
    zachd [MSFT], Feb 23, 2006
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    woody Guest

    Sorry, I mistakingly indicated that the instructions say to set the value to
    0. What I did was I followed the instructions and double clicked the
    LowRateSample key, and then, in Value data, deleted the value that was
    displayed, and now the data column shows 0x00000000 (0). Having no knowledge
    or experience with registry editing, I didn't realize that there was a
    difference, and inaccurately described what I did.
    --Woody

     
    woody, Feb 23, 2006
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  10. Gerardo Jaime

    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    What values are set to what under the MP3Encoding key? If the
    "LowRateSample" value is still visible at all, you should delete it and make
    it go away. You should not see a "LowRateSample" value.

    --
    Windows Media Development Team (speaking for myself only)
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --

     
    zachd [MSFT], Feb 23, 2006
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    woody Guest

    OK. I think I've done that. Here is the mp3 encoding key as I exported it to
    a text file:
    Value 1
    Name: MediumRate
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x2ee00

    Value 2
    Name: MediumHighRate
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x3e800

    Value 3
    Name: HighRate
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x4e200

    Value 4
    Name: PreferredCodecName
    Type: REG_SZ
    Data: MPEG Layer-3

    Value 5
    Name: PreferredCodecPath
    Type: REG_SZ
    Data: C:\WINDOWS\system32\l3codecp.acm

    Value 6
    Name: LowRateSample
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x0

    It's just that after deleting the value, it shows up as a zero in the data
    column. Am I doing something wrong? You don't want me to delete the
    LowRateSample key, do you? Sorry for being so thick.
    -Woody

     
    woody, Feb 23, 2006
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  12. Gerardo Jaime

    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    Heh. You're allllmost there. =) Delete the LowRateSample key. The
    terminology is more often that a registry key (HKEY_blah) has a registry
    value (LowRateSample) with registry data (0), but it's all a muddle. Delete
    whatever says "LowRateSample" and we'll both be happy. =)

    Cheers,
    -Zach
    --
    Windows Media Development Team (speaking for myself only)
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --

     
    zachd [MSFT], Feb 24, 2006
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    woody Guest

    OK, now the key is gone completely. I was following instructions on the
    microsoft page http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/mp10/errors.aspx
    (reference error code C00D0FAA: Cannot rip the track) where they say to
    delete the data value, not the entire key. So, having deleted the
    LowRateSample key, I see no difference in the rip options. I am still not
    able to select 128kbps. Do I need to remove all my Sonic software as
    suggested by Mr Jaime above? I'm concerned about losing my ability to burn
    dvds etc.

     
    woody, Feb 24, 2006
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    zachd [MSFT] Guest

    You didn't list a LowRate value - create a low rate DWORD value set to
    0x1f400.

    --
    Windows Media Development Team (speaking for myself only)
    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
    This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
    --

     
    zachd [MSFT], Feb 24, 2006
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    woody Guest

    I had one that got left out of the text file I imported.
    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Settings\MP3Encoding]
    "LowRate"=dword:0000dac0
    "MediumRate"=dword:0002ee00
    "MediumHighRate"=dword:0003e800
    "HighRate"=dword:0004e200
    "PreferredCodecName"="MPEG Layer-3"
    "PreferredCodecPath"="C:\\WINDOWS\\system32\\l3codecp.acm"

    Now after changing it here's what I have.

    Key Name:
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Settings\MP3Encoding
    Class Name: <NO CLASS>
    Last Write Time: 2/24/2006 - 1:11 PM
    Value 0
    Name: LowRate
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x1f400

    Value 1
    Name: MediumRate
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x2ee00

    Value 2
    Name: MediumHighRate
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x3e800

    Value 3
    Name: HighRate
    Type: REG_DWORD
    Data: 0x4e200

    Value 4
    Name: PreferredCodecName
    Type: REG_SZ
    Data: MPEG Layer-3

    Value 5
    Name: PreferredCodecPath
    Type: REG_SZ
    Data: C:\WINDOWS\system32\l3codecp.acm

    Guess what? These values work perfectly! Now I can select a rate of 128kbs
    for ripping. I almost understand what you had me do. I'm sure others (new
    Dell owners in particular) can benefit from this information (i.e. delete the
    LowRateSample key, set the LowRate value to 0x1f400, and change the
    preferedCodecPath to l3codecp.acm). Maybe Dell ought to make sure that their
    systems ship with these values.

    Thanks a million. You're a genius.
    -Woody
     
    woody, Feb 24, 2006
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