Difference between MCE and non-MCE edition of Hauppauge PVR 150 cards?

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Noozer, Jan 26, 2005.

  1. Noozer

    Noozer Guest

    I'm looking at using a Hauppauge PVR 150 TV card for my media box, but I
    find both MCE and non-MCE editions of this card for sale (not to mention OEM
    and low profile). I don't see any difference between the two cards when I
    visit the Hauppage website, except the MCE edition doesn't come with a
    remote.

    Are there any differences between the cards themselves? If not, I'll pick up
    the non-MCE edition with remote, then get the Microsoft remote & IR blaster
    for MCE. This would solve my "which remote" problem I posted about
    previously.

    One other question not answered on the Hauppauge site... The low profile
    version doesn't have nearly as many connectors as the full height. I assume
    that is just ha a "breakout" cable to connect to the card. Is this correct?

    Thx!!!
     
    Noozer, Jan 26, 2005
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  2. The cards themselves are quite significantly different. Among the
    obvious differences, the non-MCE card has remote control, but no FM
    tuner; the MCE version has no remote but FM radio functions. The
    software bundles are also hugely different, so much so that you can't
    use the non-MCE version with MCE or the MCE version with XP unless you
    obtain and use additonal software.
     
    Barry Watzman, Jan 26, 2005
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  3. Noozer

    Bob [MVP] Guest

    The MCE version includes an FM tuner. The non-MCE
    version does not. So if you want FM, go with the
    MCE version.

    The low-profile version does not include a composite
    video input, and instead of two RCA audio inputs,
    it has a single 1/8" stereo jack input.

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    Bob [MVP], Jan 26, 2005
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  4. Noozer

    Bob [MVP] Guest

    Hi Barry,

    I'm pretty sure that you can use the non-MCE version
    of the PVR-150 with MCE. You just won't have an FM
    tuner.

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    _______________________________
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    Bob [MVP], Jan 26, 2005
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  5. Noozer

    Dan Guest

    Correct, I use a PVR250 and a PVR250MCE in my 2005 machine, without any
    problem. The PVR250 has also been tested with MCE 2005.
     
    Dan, Jan 26, 2005
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  6. Noozer

    Noozer Guest

    Hrm... I would want the FM, but more than the supplied remote?

    Anyone know if I could get the Hauppauge remote to work with the MCE edition
    of the card if I was running it under XP instead of MCE?

    The software bundle isn't that important as I'd be using a third party TV
    app or MCE. Drivers should be available on the website. I'd probably end up
    purchasing an OEM card anyhow.

    *sigh* This all started out by my trying to find a USB TV card for an old
    iMac!

    Thanks for all the info folks!
     
    Noozer, Jan 26, 2005
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  7. Noozer

    Dan Guest

    If you are going to use MCE on a daily basis, I suggest you go for the
    MCE version as the remote itself isn't MCE compatible. The MCE version
    is also cheaper, and you get FM on top of that. The Hauppauge remote
    *can* work with MCE, using the IR software that came with the card (or
    maybe even using Girder), but it can be a little clumsy from what I have
    been told.
     
    Dan, Jan 26, 2005
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  8. Noozer

    Bob [MVP] Guest

    I'd get the MCE version of the card, and go buy an MCE
    remote. The PVR remote that comes with the non-MCE
    version of the card doesn't work with MCE anyway.

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    -Bob
    _______________________________
    Microsoft MVP
    Windows XP Media Center Edition
    http://www.microsoft.com/ehome
     
    Bob [MVP], Jan 26, 2005
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  9. Noozer

    Noozer Guest

    This what I'm thinking, BUT.... What if after a month the wife hates the MCE
    machine? Do I toss the MCE card into the trash or will it work in XP?

    I've sent an email to Hauppauge and I'm waiting for a reply.
     
    Noozer, Jan 26, 2005
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  10. Noozer

    Lukas Guest

    You can use a PVR150MCE on Windows XP... and radio works... I asked
    Hauppauge technical support

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    Lukas

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    Lukas, Jan 26, 2005
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  11. Noozer

    Lukas Guest

    Well.. you can use the Hauppauge PVR remote on mce... on xpmce.com there is
    an interesting guide :)
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    Lukas

    Hardware Vault - www.hw-vault.com
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    MCE ITALIA Italian Media Center Community http://www.hw-vault.com/forum
     
    Lukas, Jan 26, 2005
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  12. Ok, can you mix an 150 and a 150MCE IN THE SAME SYSTEM?

    Also, more general question: With two tuner cards installed, do you
    have explicit control over which tuner a recording is going to be made from?

    Can one tuner work with a Set-top box while the other tuner directly
    tunes non-premium cable channels?

    What about the "guide"? My system is setup to not use a set-top box,
    but on Monday I wanted to record "Dirty War" (HBO), so I move the input
    to the STB output temporarily. Fine, but as far as the "Guide" is
    concerned, channel 3 (now temporarily the STB output) is still the local
    NBC affilliate, and the "programs" are the NBC programs. With "manual
    record", I can rename the recording to "Dirty War", but all of the other
    "meta data" (program description) is still totally wrong, and as far as
    I can tell, I can't edit it in any way. Any way around this? What
    happens if I have two tuners, one connected to the raw cable, the other
    connected to the STB output? It seems that the current implementation
    makes an assumption that both tuners work the same way, and have the
    same channel assignments, etc.
     
    Barry Watzman, Jan 27, 2005
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  13. Noozer

    Jason Tsang Guest

    Can you mix a 150 and 150 MCE in the same system...
    Yes

    Also, more general question: With two tuner cards installed, do you have
    explicit control over which tuner a recording is going to be made from?
    Not really... both tuners must have the same tv source (i.e. both have no
    STB or both have STB)... at best, with homogenous tv source, you can
    prioritize which tuner gets used first... see here
    http://www.xpmce.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=264496#264496

    Can one tuner work with a Set-top box while the other tuner directly tunes
    non-premium cable channels?
    No... see above answer

    What about the "guide"?
    Homogenous tv sources use the same guide. Since the scenerio you ask about
    is not supported by MCE 2005...

    Hopefully heterogenous tv sources is in the works for a future version of
    MCE. If you want this feature, please write to MS Wish
    How to Contact the Microsoft Wish Program
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EL;114491
     
    Jason Tsang, Jan 27, 2005
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  14. Noozer

    Noozer Guest

    This is the reply I got from Hauppauge...

    If you buy the PVR-150 retail model the supplied remote control will not
    work with windows media center, but the board will.



    If you buy the MCE PVR-150 the board will work in Windows XP with third
    party applications like SageTV or Snapstream. Unfortunately you won't be
    able to purchase a remote control for it from us because the board has no
    infrared port so you have to use a Media Center remote control, which might
    work with third party applications but you need to ask them about that.
     
    Noozer, Jan 28, 2005
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