Differences between SBS 2003 & Standard Server 2003

Discussion in 'Windows Server' started by B. Walker, Jul 13, 2005.

  1. B. Walker

    B. Walker Guest

    Hello all,

    I was asked to setup a network for a new business that is starting up in my
    area. Currently me and the business are at the point of getting a server
    ordered and ready for windows domain networking for the entire building
    (16-20 employee's). The need for the business isn't too strenious right
    now. They don't needs SQL services of any sorts, they don't need Exchange
    email services. Their email is being hosted offsite through a webhosting
    account which works great for them. What they do need however is to have
    each of the computers on a Windows Domain so that drive/folder shares,
    network devices (printers), and such are managed through the server and that
    everyone has locked down permissions. There will be some application
    sharing on the server for customized mortgage software. More than likely
    just creating them a mapped drive to the share of the installed software on
    the server should suit them just fine.

    This leaves me with the question, which route should they take? Small
    Business Server 'Standard Ed.' or should they just go the route of Windows
    Server 2003 Standard Edition? The reason I ask is that I've noticed Small
    Business Server is significantly less pricewise and the CAL's are
    signficantly less than Windows Server 2003. The business owner is obviously
    price conscious.

    Brad
     
    B. Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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    My appologies for the double post. DSL went down and came back and I
    accidentaly posted twice.
     
    B. Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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    Thanks for the info. Server wise they are being taken care of. I'm
    contacting several vendors, including Dell about getting a server that has
    tape backup, raid array's, because they NEED the redundancy. Currently they
    have a Dimension or Optiplex running as a 'server'. They got taken after
    they started the business last summer and the previous IT guy set that up
    saying it was a server. They told him to leave and not to come back so I've
    been correcting his mistakes and this is one of them.

    My main question ... and maybe it's because I haven't kept up with SBS much
    lately, is that it seems like if SBS has Windows Server 2003, Exchange, SQL,
    etc, that it would be much MUCH more expensive than just the standalone
    Windows Server 2003? What are the core functionality differences between
    the two? Does Windows Server 2003 Std. Ed. have something that SBS doesn't?
    It just doesn't seem to make sense? Although if it works for my client, I
    won't complain. I'm just really curious about it.

    Brad
     
    B. Walker, Jul 13, 2005
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  4. My main question ... and maybe it's because I haven't kept up with SBS
    Yeah... its somewhat unbelievable, but true.
    This is a non-serious comparison, but its true nevertheless:
    http://www.sbslinks.com/Us_v_them.htm
    With SBS2k3 you are limited to a maximum of 75 users, you cannot establish
    trusts with other domains and your SBS box *must* be a DC and hold all FSMO
    roles. These limitations are not imposed on plain-vanilla Windows Server.
    But this is nothing a small business should care about.

    On the other hand (as you mentioned) there is *lot* stuff on SBS that is not
    on Windows server.
    Basically the idea that MS has is that SBS is some sort of hookup drug (I'm
    not joking! :). You get your first taste very cheap, then when you realize
    that all these products are great and your client can't live without them...
    you are hooked. A couple of years later your company grows, you but the
    transition pack... and you are a loyal MS customer for the rest of your life
    :)

    BTW-> SBS2k3 Std is cheaper than Win2k3Std. SBS2k3 Premium is a bit more
    expensive that Win2k3std. However, SBS CALs are a bit more expensive than
    plain-vanilla Windows server CALs (retail price is $99 vs. $60)... but you
    get so much more.

    SBS is a steal :)
     
    Javier Gomez [SBS MVP], Jul 13, 2005
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  5. Hi Brad

    I have a Mortgage broker Client (uses Calyx Point software) on SBS 2003
    Premium with ISA for security but no SQL installed. The BIG advantage to him
    is Remote Web Workplace which is not included in Standard Windows and
    brokers like to work from home. SBS Standard has RWW and the only thing you
    will lose is ISA and SQL but I believe the difference is worth it for
    security! Although you say Exchange isn't needed you will love the
    collaboration of Outlook 2003 which goes to each WS at no extra cost and
    Sharepoint Services to Company Web is very valuable for for a brokerage type
    business.
    See Us vs Them http://www.sbslinks.com/Us_v_them.htm
     
    Frank McCallister SBS MVP, Jul 13, 2005
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  6. For SBS2003 Features check out
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/sbs/evaluation/features/default.m
    spx. Windows Small Business Server 2003 is available in two
    editions-Standard and Premium-allowing small businesses to receive the best
    solution depending on their needs. Both editions include five client access
    licenses (user or device). Additional licenses can be purchased in
    increments of five. SBS 2003 can grow with your customers and support up to
    a maximum of 75 users.

    Windows Server 2003 Standard pricing falls between SBS2003 Premium and
    Standard, while Windows Server 2003 Standard cal (device or user) pricing is
    much less than the same for SBS2003 Premium or Standard.

    The 75 user limit is a fixed issue and to go beyond that in SBS2003 you have
    to upgrade each SBS component to the full product equivalent, a costly
    venture. All SBS components must all run concurrentlly on the same server;
    thus you can not run components on seperate servers.

    None of these issues are relevant if the business is and remains small.
    Initial cost, based on configuration and pricing you have received, will
    likely be less for Windows Server 2003 Standard.
     
    Robert Hoogstraat, Jul 13, 2005
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