Diffrent Vista Accounts and one MailStore

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Mail' started by Stefan Helmig, Jan 20, 2007.

  1. Hello NG,

    I would like to use one MailStore of
    Windows Mail with two Windows Vista Accounts
    (An Administrator and a Standard User)
    There was no problem to move both stores
    to one location. But if I logged in as
    Amdinistrator an saved the password(s)
    for a newsserver or for a mail-account
    like gmx, I have to type the name/password
    of the mail-accountname again if I switched
    the Vista-Account - Why?

    Where are these Passwords stored?
    And how can I change this behavior to
    use two different Vista-Accounts (Identities?)
    with the same mailstore without typing the
    name/password of a mail account again?

    Can I export and import some registry
    values to use it like one vista user?

    btw: This was a good workaround in XP
    and Outlook Express to store and share
    these names and passwords of mail-accounts
    with different Windows-XP-Accounts

    S
     
    Stefan Helmig, Jan 20, 2007
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  2. See www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

    The passwords are encrypted and there is no explanation of how they are
    generated. The encrypted password is stored in the .oeaccount file, but the
    encryption "seed" is different for each user, so the encryption is different
    depending on which user is logged on.

    I have the same problem when sharing the message store between OSs
    (multiboot) as then again one is prompted for the password for each account.

    My workaround for this is to have a batch file for each user (or OS) that
    copies the oeaccount files from a backed location to the message store and I
    keep a backup for each user. So when user A logs on, then user A runs that
    batch file for the user that copies his oeaccount files to the store, and
    then when user B logs on, then user B runs his batch file that copies over
    his oeaccount files into the store.

    I don't have any other workaround at the moment, as Microsoft has refused to
    provide any information on this issue.

    steve
     
    Steve Cochran, Jan 22, 2007
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  3. Hello Steve,
    How do I know which .oeaccount files belong to which
    user? I have two diffrent account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount
    files in the root of the MailStore. Additionaly I have
    7 account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount files in the LocalFolders
    subdirectory of the mailstore. I have 7 mailaccounts and
    1 news-serveraccount with my windows standard-user account.
    And which file have to be copied in which way?
    I hope you can explain it more detailed.
    :-(


    S
     
    Stefan Helmig, Jan 25, 2007
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  4. Here is information on the accounts:

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...outlookexpress/oe/overviews/account_entry.asp

    Each account file is an xml file that is readable and editable in Notepad.
    So you can find out which account is which by reading the contents.

    Then you just make a copy of the account files for one user and store that
    in a backup directory. Then you make a backup for the other user. Then
    create a batch file that copies the account files from the backup to the
    correct location for each user. Then when you boot, run the batch file for
    that user and you won't be prompted for passwords then.

    steve

     
    Steve Cochran, Jan 26, 2007
    #4
  5. Hello Steve,
    Yes, now it's working. Thank you.

    I was wondering because there were no differences
    between the *.oeaccount files. Then I recognized
    there is a diffrence between the
    <POP3_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</POP3_Password2>
    and
    <SMTP_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</SMTP_Password2>
    fields in diffrent accounts.

    I think they use the UID or username for
    encrypting/decrypting these passwords...

    S
     
    Stefan Helmig, Jan 27, 2007
    #5
  6. Hello Steve,

    I recognized now that you have to care about swichting
    between users if you copy these *.oaccount-files to the
    "common" mail-store.

    I use now a batch file to open the windwos mail application,
    but if I switch (not logoff) to an another user account
    and Windows Mail is not closed there will be problems
    if you start the Windows Mail from an another account
    and using this workaround on the same "common"
    mail-store

    It would be good to locate the account files
    seperated from the mailstore.... or alternativ
    start the applictaion with only one account using

    runas /profile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail"
    or
    runas /noprofile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail"

    But this mechanism is broken at the moment on my vista
    and I don't know why :-(

    S
     
    Stefan Helmig, Jan 27, 2007
    #6
  7. I don't think you can do much better at this point. You will just have to
    close WinMail before you switch users.

    steve

     
    Steve Cochran, Jan 28, 2007
    #7
  8. Stefan Helmig

    varun bansal Guest

    hey guys
    i m working on a application for window live mail password recovery which is stored in windows file as *.oeaccount...but still i am not getting one thing that what the thing its is using as entropy..means i am not getting exactly what the field values for cryptunprotected

    will you please help

    you are most welcome to shade a light on this article

    thanks and regards

    varun abnsal



    Stefan Helmig wrote:

    Hello Steve,Yes, now it's working. Thank you.
    27-Jan-07

    Hello Steve


    Yes, now it's working. Thank you

    I was wondering because there were no difference
    between the *.oeaccount files. Then I recognize
    there is a diffrence between th
    <POP3_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</POP3_Password2
    an
    <SMTP_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</SMTP_Password2
    fields in diffrent accounts

    I think they use the UID or username fo
    encrypting/decrypting these passwords..

    S

    Previous Posts In This Thread:

    Hello Steve,How do I know which .oeaccount files belong to whichuser?
    Hello Steve


    How do I know which .oeaccount files belong to whic
    user? I have two diffrent account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccoun
    files in the root of the MailStore. Additionaly I hav
    7 account{_CRYPT_}.oeaccount files in the LocalFolder
    subdirectory of the mailstore. I have 7 mailaccounts an
    1 news-serveraccount with my windows standard-user account
    And which file have to be copied in which way
    I hope you can explain it more detailed


    S

    Re: Diffrent Vista Accounts and one MailStore
    Here is information on the accounts

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d.../outlookexpress/oe/overviews/account_entry.as

    Each account file is an xml file that is readable and editable in Notepad.
    So you can find out which account is which by reading the contents

    Then you just make a copy of the account files for one user and store that
    in a backup directory. Then you make a backup for the other user. Then
    create a batch file that copies the account files from the backup to the
    correct location for each user. Then when you boot, run the batch file for
    that user and you won't be prompted for passwords then

    stev


    Hello Steve,Yes, now it's working. Thank you.
    Hello Steve


    Yes, now it's working. Thank you

    I was wondering because there were no difference
    between the *.oeaccount files. Then I recognize
    there is a diffrence between th
    <POP3_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</POP3_Password2
    an
    <SMTP_Password2 type="BINARY">[_CRYPT]_</SMTP_Password2
    fields in diffrent accounts

    I think they use the UID or username fo
    encrypting/decrypting these passwords..

    S

    Hello Steve,I recognized now that you have to care about swichtingbetween
    Hello Steve


    I recognized now that you have to care about swichtin
    between users if you copy these *.oaccount-files to th
    "common" mail-store

    I use now a batch file to open the windwos mail application
    but if I switch (not logoff) to an another user accoun
    and Windows Mail is not closed there will be problem
    if you start the Windows Mail from an another accoun
    and using this workaround on the same "common
    mail-stor

    It would be good to locate the account file
    seperated from the mailstore.... or alternati
    start the applictaion with only one account usin

    runas /profile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail
    o
    runas /noprofile user:mashine/user /savcred "Windows Mail

    But this mechanism is broken at the moment on my vist
    and I don't know why :-

    S

    I don't think you can do much better at this point.
    I do not think you can do much better at this point. You will just have t
    close WinMail before you switch users

    steve


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    varun bansal, Jan 21, 2010
    #8
  9. Stefan Helmig

    Sam Hobbs Guest

    You need to know how to walk before you can run. Learn the difference
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    Sam Hobbs, Jan 21, 2010
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