Disable/Remove/Bypass Vista wmp 11 & downgrade t wmp 10

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Budd, Aug 17, 2007.

  1. Budd

    Budd Guest

    Simply unhappy with Vista !! Could learn to live with it if I could find away
    around/bypass wmp 11 and go back to my ole xp wmp 10. Any ideas? Thanks
    anyway.
     
    Budd, Aug 17, 2007
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  2. Budd

    Chad Harris Guest

    Hi Budd--

    MSFT's WMP team strongly recommends that you not try to uninstall WMP-- they
    don't support this at all, and trying to uninstall it with any method you
    might find on the web is a bad idea. Zach D [MSFT] has helped on this
    group, and a lot on the WMP group, and if Zach comes around he's a Lead
    Developer on the Windows Media core team, has a very helpful website, and
    you're in the best of hands. Recently Zach asked if someone who had a
    problem installed SatelliteTVforPC 2006 on their system, and also what have
    *you installed on the system *in reference to media playing?

    See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. This is Zach's
    WMP help site, and it's extensive and there may be a solution to help with
    your problem on it.

    You haven't provided enough info here. Precisely what is the problem with
    WMP 11? What happens when you open it--will it open? Is there a problem
    doing something specific that you want to do with it? Will it play?

    I wish you would give me a specific error message with respect to WMP, and
    if you don't have one on your desktop (I know they can be vague but very
    often with WMP they are helpful) try going to eventvwr.msc in run
    box>enter>Windows log on left>Application>hit the down arrow and see if
    there are any WMP errors there.

    Here's how I see your problem. You say you're unhappy with Vista and it
    seems like WMP's not working and I know WMP is very important to you. I
    think WMP is just one part of Vista, and if you provide specific information
    like the wording of an error message for WMP when you try to open it and
    what's happening when you try to use WMP one of us could help you fix it.

    If you have other specific Vista problems, list them and we can try to help
    with each of those. Once we can fix WMP, I think you'll find a lot to like
    in Vista and a lot it does well.

    Here's what else I would try not knowing much information about your system
    or the precise problem you're having with WMP11.

    There are a several specialized WMP KB sites from MSFT but I prefer Chris
    Lanier's blog for fixes under WMP on the left:

    http://msmvps.com/blogs/chrisl/
    ___________________________

    4 Other very successful options you have:

    In case you cannot find/match an error to one of the many fixes that Chris
    has, then I'd either use System File Checker (and if that does not help
    you), Startup Repair (if you own a Vista DVD), which does not require a no
    boot situation to help you fix many Vista components, or try Sytem Restore
    from either the Vista DVD's Recovery link or from the F8 menu. Links that
    show you how to do this are below.

    ***SFC as a Remedy***:

    SFC or System File Checker is a bit like the spare tire in your car or a
    backup battery I suppose. In Vista of course, they have changed it somewhat
    and come up with a new name--Redmond stands for name it something different
    twice a year and now it's part of WRP or Windows Resource Protection. It
    scans protected resources including thousands of files, libraries, critical
    folders, and essential registry keys, and it replaces those that are
    corrupted with intact ones. It fixes a lot of problems in Windows XP, OE,
    Windows Vista, Win Mail, IE6, and on Vista or if it is installed on XP, IE7.
    It protects these things from changes by any source including
    administrators, by keeping a spare of most of them.


    How to Run SFC:

    Type "cmd" into the Search box above the Start Button>and when cmd comes up
    at the top of the Start menu>right click cmd and click "run as Admin" and
    when the cmd prompt comes up at the cmd prompt type "sfc /scannow" no quotes
    and let it run. This may fix things quite a bit. It replaces corrupt files
    with intact ones, if you're not familiar with it.

    If no help from SFC, you can try a restore point to before this happened or
    you try the steps below if you have a Vista DVD:

    ***Startup Repair from the Vista DVD***

    How to Use The Vista DVD to Repair Vista (Startup Repair is misnamed by the
    Win RE team and it can be used to fix many Vista components even when you
    can boot to Vista):

    http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

    If you elect to run Startup repair from the Vista DVD (it can fix major
    components in Vista--I've verified this many many times; it's good for more
    than startup problems, and the Win RE team simply screwed up when they named
    it not understanding its full functionality):

    Startup Repair will look like this when you put in the Vista DVD:

    http://www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png

    You run the startup repair tool this way (and system restore from here is
    also sometimes effective):

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/925810/en-us

    How To Run Startup Repair In Vista Ultimate (Multiple Screenshots)
    http://www.windowsvista.windowsreinstall.com/vistaultimate/repairstartup/index.htm

    It will automatically take you to this on your screen:

    http://www.vistaclues.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/click-repair-your-computer.png

    That will allow you to go to the Vista setup that has a Repair link on
    thelower left corner>click it and then you'll see a gray backgrounded list
    and I want you to click Startup Repair from it and follow the directions.

    The gray screen after you click the first link in the above pic will look
    like this:

    http://www.windowsreinstall.com/winvista/images/repair/staruprepair/Image17.gif

    Click Startup Repair, the link at the top and after it scans>click OK and
    let it try to repair Vista. It will tell you if it does, and if it
    doesn't, try System Restore from the Recovery Link on the DVD. If these
    don't work booting into Safe Mode by tapping the F8 key and using System
    Restore from one of the safe modes besides VGA may work. That means you
    have the option to try 4 different safe modes to get to system restore, (one
    from the Recovery link on the DVD) and sometimes one will work when the
    others won't.

    You could also try a Repair Install with Vista which is done exactly the
    same way as in XP:

    ***Repair Install Steps*** (can be used for Vista) MVP Doug Knox
    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/tips/doug92.mspx


    ***Using the F8 Environment***

    ***Taking Full Advantage of the F8 Options (Windows Advanced Options Menu)
    by starting the PC and tapping F8 once per second when the firmware screen
    with the pc manufacturer's name shows a few seconds after restarting***:

    The F8 options in Vista are the same as XP, and the link for Safe Mode Boot
    options is labled XP by MSFT but they are the same for Vista (they haven't
    updated to add Vista to the title as they have with several MSKBs that apply
    to both).

    Again, pressing F8 repeatedly when you seem the firmware screen may be is a
    generic way to launch Windows RE on some OEM Vista computers.

    You could also:

    Think: I have 4 different ways to get back my XP at F8 and try 'em in order.
    1) Safe Mode 2) Safe Mode with Cmd to Sys Restore which is simply a cmd
    prompt in safe mode 3) Safe Mode with Neworking 4) LKG or Last Known Good
    Configuration


    Try to F8 to the Windows Adv Options Menu>try 3 safe modes there (I don't
    use WGA) and Last Known Good>then I go to Win RE in Vista. That gives you a
    choice of Safe Mode, Safe Mode with Networking,and Safe Mode with Command
    Prompt.

    These methods are outlined in

    A description of the Safe Mode Boot options in Windows XP/and Vista
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222/

    Frequently Asked Questions Regarding System Restore from MSFT:

    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/plan/faqsrwxp.mspx


    System Restore can be run from the Win RE recovery environment from the same
    link as Startup Repair, and sometimes it will work from one F8 safe mode
    location or from the Win Recovery Environment when it won't work from other
    locations.


    How to start the System Restore tool at a command prompt in Windows XP

    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;304449

    Good luck,

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Aug 17, 2007
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  3. Budd

    Crazy Noddy Guest


    Why would you want to go back to WMP10 anyway? WMP11 is quite a bit better
    than WMP10. WMP11 is the first time I have actually wanted to use WMP
    instead of a 3rd party one like I usually do. The organizational skills of
    WMP11 are stellar.
     
    Crazy Noddy, Aug 17, 2007
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  4. Budd

    larry Guest

    i also want to go back to 10. i think 11 sucks. i shouldnt be forced to use
    11

    :
     
    larry, Jun 8, 2008
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  5. Budd

    smartie Guest

    WMP11 is built/hardcoded/dongled into Vista like IE7 and DX 10 too.

    If you want IE6,WMP9,10, old DX or other old versions of OS-built-in apps
    you will need to downgrade the complete OS to XP or 2000 but not use Vista.

    cheers.
     
    smartie, Jun 8, 2008
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  6. Budd

    Dzomlija Guest

    I think the one reason why people hate WMP 11 is because it's skinning
    capabilities are more limited than previous versions.

    In the grand scheme of things, I personally think that any kind of
    skinning for any application is a bad idea. Case in point - look at all
    the BAD skins for WinAmp...


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    Dzomlija, Jun 8, 2008
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