Disk Management

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Administration' started by Boblink, Sep 21, 2008.

  1. Boblink

    Boblink Guest

    Hello SIW, when I right click on New Volume, the available options are
    Mark Partition as Active, Change Drive Letter, Format, Shrink Volume
    Delete Volume, Properties and Help. Three other options are "greye
    out" (not available, they are Open, Explore and Extend
    When I right click EXTENDED DRIVE "H", ALL the options listed above AR
    available PLUS Open and Explore. The ONLY option that is NOT availabl
    is Extend
    Boblink, Sep 22, 2008
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  2. Boblink

    SIW2 Guest

    Hi Bob

    If you wish to Extend H , you need to first Delete the partition to th
    right of it - I see it gives you those options

    SIW2, Sep 22, 2008
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  3. Boblink

    barman58 Guest

    Ok Bo

    I'm Bac

    The reason that you have a red drive showing in the system because yo
    have TWO H: drives When you originally set up your internal drive th
    OneKey backup drive you created was allocated H: if you reallocate th
    partition on the external drive to something else (excep
    A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H) the red line will disappear


    To get back to the original problem go back into the disk manager an
    delete the 16.11 partition on the external drive


    next right click on the 58.3GB partition and choose extend to exten
    the drive into the 16.11GB of now Unallocated space.


    you should now have approx 74GB drive named something other tha


    the beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do no
    understand.,- frank herbert
    barman58, Sep 22, 2008
  4. Boblink

    SIW2 Guest

    Hi Nigel

    Interesting they've hard coded that partition.

    Anyway , hopefully that will have sorted it all out for Bob.

    SIW2, Sep 22, 2008
  5. Boblink

    barman58 Guest

    yeah that is a bit strange probably just needed a reboot.

    vista is normally pretty good with drive allocations internals start
    with c: and go upward and externals start with z: and go downwards so
    you have to have quite a few before they clash unless you override the
    defaults of course :D


    the beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do not
    understand.,- frank herbert
    barman58, Sep 22, 2008
  6. Boblink

    Boblink Guest

    I can't thank you guys enough for all your help and as an extra benefit,
    I noticed that along the way, I "advanced" from a newbee to a junior
    member. THANK YOU so much guys for ALL your help!
    Although your on the other side of the pond, I think you will
    appreciate when I say "Mission Accomplished" (i.e. in my case, it really
    WAS accomplished).
    And thank you Nigel for the tutorial on OneKey, I am "doing battle"
    with Lenovo over this apparent flaw in the design of the system.
    Rumor has it that they ran out of time (wanting to announce) so they
    came up with this cockamamie solution by placing the OS, OneKey and
    OneKey images on the "C" Drive (the original design was for the 30GB "C"
    Drive to contain Windows and the "freebies" that the packaged with the
    Unfortunately 30GB is NOT enough space so every couple of days (matter
    of fact, right now), I get an error message advising "The free dynamic
    buffer in the current system is insuffiecent (additional space required
    for OneKey Recovery:2435MB). It is recommended to release the dynamic
    buffer by updating the Base Backup".
    This only takes a minute to do but about about 10 minutes for OneKey to
    "capture" the image and I have to do it every couple of days.
    Pain in the you know what all because Lenovo decided that they want /
    need to get the system out the door before it was ready to be shipped.
    I'll get off my Lenovo bandwaggon, thank you again for ALL your help
    Boblink, Sep 22, 2008
  7. Boblink

    barman58 Guest

    Hi bob glad to see you've got it sorted :

    I can see where the that fixed 30GB C: drive will cause all kinds o
    problems. there are a few things that could be done by moving thing
    onto the D:drive, to work around the limitation

    will have to put a few things down on paper and maybe write a tutorial
    maybe this weekend. If I do post a tutorial I'll PM you to let you know

    all the bes


    the beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do no
    understand.,- frank herbert
    barman58, Sep 22, 2008
  8. Boblink

    Boblink Guest

    Thank you again for straightening me out Nigel, this was all caused by a
    little mistake (Partitioning the WRONG Drive), I have to be more
    I'm going to be away this weekend and won't be back until Wednesday or
    Thursday of next week and will be looking forward to your tutorial.
    The only thing that I have done so far to try and elevate the
    (capacity) problem on the "C" Drive was to delete some of the freebee
    software came with the system, move some files to the "D" Drive and
    store Photos on the "D" Drive.
    But after all was said and done, I still only have 5.29GB out of 29.2GB
    Free so the Dynamic Buffer problem keeps reoccurring.
    Thanks again to EVERYONE and anxious to see what you come up with
    Boblink, Sep 22, 2008
  9. Boblink

    Top Guest

    I've been sitting on the sidelines watching this keeping quiet as
    I had nothing worth adding to the conversation. I will have add
    my thanks to all for keeping up and following through all this.
    It is educational to watch. If nothing else It gives me things to
    advoid or how to deal with them.

    Top, Sep 22, 2008
  10. Boblink

    SIW2 Guest

    Hi Nigel,

    That's a great idea - it's not the first post about recovery partition

    Note to Bob - sorry , Laptop manufacturers is my term for th
    manufacturers who turn out millions of machines with recovery partition
    ( most of their business tends to be laptops) - as opposed to what ar
    specialist pc , i.e. desktop manufacturers , who will give you th
    actual install dvd , all the manuals, etc

    Glad you got it sorted

    SIW2 :
    SIW2, Sep 22, 2008
  11. Boblink

    Boblink Guest

    Hey SIW, it's amazing the ramifications that "a little error" can bring,
    I need to be MORE careful and thank you'all for the help that you
    provided by helping me dig myself out of the whole (that I dug myself
    into in the first place).
    I am not sure what Nigel will come up with, and if you need any help
    (or should I say explanation of my configuration since I obviously can
    not offer much help), please let me know and in case you interested, I
    am still doing battle with Lenovo and think I might have gotten there
    attention by threatening to contact the states Attorney General office
    and the Better Business Bureau (I don't know what the equivalent
    agencies are in your neck of the woods).
    And following up on your comment SIW, since I am not techically
    inclined to build a sustem, who (what manufacturers) do you consider "PC
    Specialist" (Dell, HP, Acer, Lenovo.....)?
    Thanks, Bob
    Boblink, Sep 23, 2008
  12. Boblink

    SIW2 Guest

    Hi Bob,

    Actually the ones you list are what I would consider to be the mas
    market type

    You might think there would be an advantage buying from them as the
    have so much purchasing muscle and economies of scale etc

    In the UK at least ( and I suspect in the US ) it is better to buy a p
    i.e. desktop from a specialist manufacturer. For example, in the U
    magazine PC Advisor the top products in their various price categorie
    are all from specialist manufacturers

    Specialist manufacturers tend to be fairly small - turning out I gues
    50 or so machines a week ( more in the US as it's a much bigge
    population/ market)

    They usually offer a range of pre specified pc's you can order as is
    or you can specify various upgrades .

    I got mine from Arbico - I got the pre specified one , a best buy i
    the mag at the time. I got the desktop p.c. , all the manuals , the ful
    install dvd, 2yr warranty and free phone technical support

    You will need to check the US mags to find who they are in your neck o
    the woods

    Some of the UK ones are Arbico, Chillblast, Cyberpower, Mesh - thes
    links might give you some ide

    'Latest Reviews - PC Advisor

    'Arbico Elite 8440 - Custom Built - PC Advisor Recommended Powe
    Computer Featured Deals - Custom built Computers - Buy cheap computers
    discount gaming PCs in UK

    Hope that's of interest

    SIW2, Sep 23, 2008
  13. Boblink

    Boblink Guest

    Thanks for PC buyers tutorial SIW, my assumption was that "the biggies"
    have the (mass) purchasing power and experience to offer a slew of
    machines at competitive prices and never thought about looking into
    smaller operations. There are plenty of PC Magazines, I take a look when
    I am ready to upgrade (which I don't think will be for several years).
    Thanks for the sharing your PC Buying experience with me.
    Boblink, Sep 23, 2008
  14. Boblink

    Boblink Guest

    Hi Nigel, did you get a chance to look at what Lenovo should have don
    correctly in the first place "I can see where the that fixed 30GB C
    drive will cause all kinds of problems. there are a few things tha
    could be done by moving things onto the D:drive, to work around th
    limitation. will have to put a few things down on paper and maybe writ
    a tutorial, maybe this weekend. If I do post a tutorial I'll PM you t
    let you know.
    Boblink, Oct 6, 2008
  15. Boblink

    barman58 Guest

    Hi bob

    Have started to put a few options on paper but not had any real chanc
    to work on things with other pressures, have to earn a crust :

    anyway hopefully should have a little time this week so will try to ge
    to it, I think the information will help a lot of laptop users wit
    limited space and external drives too. so will concentrate on thing
    such as moving data and programs to a separate partition or drive s
    that will work in both laptop plus fixed size c: scenario

    the obvious things such as swap files will work for you but not in
    laptop/external drive setup so have to include this type of thing as a

    anyway thanks for the reminder, will get to it and let you kno


    the beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do no
    understand.,- frank herbert
    barman58, Oct 6, 2008
  16. Boblink

    Boblink Guest

    Hi Nigel, I have a opened a Formal Complaint with Lenovo and will keep
    you POSTED in the case they come up with a solution (so that you may be
    able to incorporate it in your thinking / analysis). Anyway, I sincerely
    appreciate your help and hopefully lots of users will be able to benefit
    from your Herculean efforts.
    Boblink, Oct 6, 2008
  17. Boblink

    barman58 Guest

    Hi Bob

    Just to keep you up to date I think I have a way, (untested by me s
    far), to move the Program Files,(or 3rd party apps,at least),and Winsx
    folders plus the Virtual memory File which on my setup would clear abou
    16GB :D the methods look sound although a little scary. It should als
    be able to move use user APPDATA and the Windows Udate Filestore, whic
    are two other major users of drive space, but need more researc

    I would like to find a machine to try it on (other than my primar
    machine,;), just in case). will also try to condense each part into
    script of some kind to ease the process. a lot of this is from peopl
    who have Vista working on an E-PC and USB sticks so does show what i
    possible :shock::cool

    will keep you informe


    the beginning of knowledge is the discovery of something we do no
    understand.,- frank herbert
    barman58, Oct 7, 2008
  18. Boblink

    Boblink Guest

    Hello Nigel, you cease to amaze me with your wealth of knowledge and m
    first thought is if in fact you have "broken the code" and (afte
    testing have confirmed that you) have figured out how to free up spac
    on the HD, you should be able to market (sell) this to algorithm to on
    of the PC manufacturers. As I previously mentioned, I am "doing battle
    with Lenovo on this and the Lenovo Community message board indicate
    that many many other users have the same problem so I have to gues
    Lenovo has some of its' best people working on it and should be ver
    willing to to obtain all the help that they can get. Just a suggestio
    Nigel and I will be checking back periodically to see how yo
    progressed. Right now I am busy trying to figure out an IE7.0 proble
    but that's another issue, something else to keep me busy
    Thank you again for all your efforts Nigel
    Boblink, Oct 7, 2008
  19. Boblink

    Boblink Guest

    Hi Nigel, just wanted to give you an update. Lenovo advised me that
    they are planning to release an update that will reform the "C" Drive
    (which currently is Partitioned to a 30Gs where Vista and the OneKey
    Recovery program reside and a 270G partition or "D" Drive where
    programs, apps, data,... files are kept), into one big "C" drive which
    the end user could do what he/she wants with. From what I understand
    (which is not much), the only thing that will happen is that the 300G
    "C" Drive that was Partitioned will be reformatted and no longer
    <factory> partitioned. I am not sure if the OneKey recovery program will
    be included in this update and when I asked them if I could skip the
    updated and just delete the OneKery programs from the "C" partition they
    said no, that removing the OneKey recovery program will make Vista
    unstable. Anyway, I thought I would give you an update and thank you
    again for straightening me out.
    Best wishes,
    Boblink, Oct 26, 2008
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