do I have it right?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by unomas, Apr 6, 2009.

  1. unomas

    Chad Harris Guest

    Unomas--

    Thanks much for the followup. I included information above on 4/11/09 as to
    how to make a Startup Repair disc from Vista SP1 or newer or alternatively a
    Neosmart website, and hopefully it will help people when they don't have a
    Vista or in the future a Win 7 DVD.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 12, 2009
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  2. unomas

    Chad Harris Guest

    I mean exactly this type incompetent OEM recovery disc that I've seen
    complaints on this group that isn't working all the time for the past 3.5
    years. I'm seeing it now here, and that's why I make the point that MSFT
    has provided a way to make a Recovery Disc that is the same as on the Vista
    and Win 7 DVD since Vista SP1. That folder, if you're not familiar, is
    located at C:\Windows|System32\recdisc.exe or on the Start Menu Gui at
    Start>All Programs>Maintenance>Create a System Repair Disc.

    That remedies the problem that the 300+ OEM partners don't ship a Vista or
    Win 7 DVD. They didn't ship an XP CD either.

    This was posted here at 4/12/09 @ 9:36PM and it's typical (and points out
    that OEM provided recovery discs and partitions are about as useful as a gum
    rapper for fixing the OS:


    "i had a problem and used the reinstall disks and it went all the way
    through and on disk 3 it came up with error 1002 contact hp if this
    problem continues if i take out the dvd and let it boot it has a boot
    error i think it wiped my hd clean but not sure if i try the boot on
    the hd using the recovery then it brings this error imedatley upon
    loading why cant they give you a real vista disk I have only had it a
    week and it seems to be dead should i take it back or what I am
    begining to hate vista"
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 13, 2009
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  3. unomas

    Chad Harris Guest

    Why in the wide world would anyone ever want a Gateway Recovery disc when
    the full panoply of Microsoft's Win RE/Startup Repair is

    1) available in all Vista SP1 and newer builds and versions of the Windows
    operating system right on the All Programs Menu @ Maintenance.

    This is a screenshot of the two ways to do this:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/chadharris16

    2) Available via download (Microsoft's exact files for those who do not have
    Vista SP1 for whatever reason) right here:

    Windows Vista Recovery Disc (Vista Startup Repair .iso Download)
    http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/

    It makes no sense to use a modality with considerably less efficacy than the
    a Microsoft Windows Vista Repair Disc, and to advise someone to smack
    themselves in the face by substituting some erratic Gateway OEM Recovery
    Disc when Microsoft has recognized the problem and made Startup Repair
    available in the OS since April 15, 2008 (one year and two days ago).

    Vista SP1's ability to make a recovery disc that has all of the Vista DVD's
    Startup Repair is not only far superior to any of these totally goofey OEM
    Recovery Discs, it has two major advantages:

    1) An OEM recovery disc loses all their settings, docs, pics, music, and
    files. It wipes them clean. It returns to factory settings. We have people
    here every day who have unfortunately no backup of these although we preach
    backup.

    2) The price of a Vista SP1 download is zero dollars and zero cents, aka
    it's free--it costs zip/zip.

    All my best,

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 13, 2009
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  4. unomas

    Chad Harris Guest

    hp vista 64 recovery error 1002 by deck60 on 4/12/2008 @ 9:46PM

    ***This is posted on this group Malke and it's typical of hundreds of posts
    I've answered here if not a thousand:***

    "i had a problem and used the reinstall disks and it went all the way
    through and on disk 3 it came up with error 1002 contact hp if this
    problem continues if i take out the dvd and let it boot it has a boot
    error i think it wiped my hd clean but not sure if i try the boot on
    the hd using the recovery then it brings this error imedatley upon
    loading why cant they give you a real vista disk I have only had it a
    week and it seems to be dead should i take it back or what I am
    begining to hate vista"

    Psst Malke--

    1) We don't want them to "hate Vista."
    2) Mr. Ballmer and Mr. Sinofsky and thousands of former Vista and current
    Win 7 team members don't want them to "hate Vista."
    3) None of the MVPs or TAP participants wants them to "hate Vista."
    4) No one who helps here regularly wants them to "hate Vista."
    5) Our goal is to get Vista fixed here, as is yours. The links I've just
    shown you maximize the chance to do that, they don't lose peoples' settings,
    docs, files, folders, pics, music, movies and schoolwork.
    6) These kids can't afford $1600 to have the material retrieved from their
    unbacked up hard drive, and neither can a lot of people out of school for
    years.
    7) That's why Jim Allchin and the Vista team began to work on this utility
    to put it in SP1 before the Vista Beta was over and well before Vista RTM'd.
    Many of us hammered the point home it was needed, and MSFT listened.
    Unfortunately there are a lot of MVPs who are unaware that it even exists
    who keep touting OEM recovery discs.

    8) Again, I drew you a picture of what I'm talking about to make it easy for
    you:

    This is a screenshot of the two ways to do this:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/chadharris16

    This is the link from Neosmart's website to download and burn the .iso that
    allows you to do the same thing as the Maintenance listing on the Vista SP1
    and later Programs menu.

    Windows Vista Recovery Disc (Vista Startup Repair .iso Download)
    http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/

    What would you rather use? The exact same bits from Microsoft from their
    Vista DVD to repair the OS or some inferior crap from some OEM who is way
    too cheap to give anyone an OS DVD with their newly purchased box?

    I think I know the results of any pole in any demography with any age group.
    I know I know what Microsoft's intentions were in making this tool.

    Best,

    CH



    Best,

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Apr 13, 2009
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  5. unomas

    radwajshalik Guest

    Hi.......,

    Sure you can install like that. There will be no problem
     
    radwajshalik, May 21, 2010
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