Does anyone ever look past the first few days

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Henry Jones, Jan 16, 2007.

  1. Henry Jones

    Henry Jones Guest

    I have been reading the posts here and it seems like the same questions are
    asked over and over and over. Doesn't anyone search the list. Currently
    as I look at the total number of messages in the group (27,337) there should
    be answers to about 70% + questions. In reality, there should only be about
    3-4 thousand questions.


    Lets say someone has a response to a question from two weeks ago, would
    anyone see the response without scrolling down?
     
    Henry Jones, Jan 16, 2007
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  2. Henry Jones

    Vista Ready Guest

    Henry,

    Very interesting observation? apparently, since self-pronouns are important
    for too many people, especially men, of which I am, much easier for just
    making a New Post, rather than perform personal research. And then, sometimes
    a New Post is made for identifying awareness within the Forum.
     
    Vista Ready, Jan 16, 2007
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  3. It is a characteristic of the non-esoteric microsoft newsgroups that the
    same questions are asked and answered over and over and over again.
    Which is easier - to search and find, or to just ask for the answer?
    Polish up your crystal ball and paste some answers - try being an expert.
    Due to its hostility towards idiocy this is not a good group for a beginner,
    but there are lots of others - why not find one and give it a whirl?
     
    Michael Jennings, Jan 16, 2007
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  4. Henry Jones

    Chad Harris Guest

    No they wouldn't. I posted a couple months ago that 90+% of the questions
    here can be answered using the Help search box in Vista or the Help web site
    search box at

    http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/default.mspx

    The reason for the number is that the same people won't use search here. We
    have a lazy planet and I live in a very lazy country. How else could a
    delusional moron be spending billions of dollars while getting thousands of
    people killed per month and continuing to help make sure little girls
    waiting for a van are blown up like they were this morning?

    http://www.juancole.com/
    Breaking 60 Dead, 110 Wounded in University Bombing

    Guerrillas used a car bomb and a suicide bomber to kill 60 persons, wounding
    110 more, at the entrance to the Mustansiriya University in Baghdad, ,
    according to Reuters. The article quotes a university official saying that
    most of the casualties were female students returning home.

    You're dealing with a population where nearly every kid was left behind. Now
    they can turn on a computer and many of them occupy adult bodies.

    CH
     
    Chad Harris, Jan 16, 2007
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  5. Related to that are the endless questions about where to get a driver for
    such-and-such a device. The obvious answer (and usually the only possible
    one) is to visit the manufacturer's website. And then there are the folks
    who have just bought a new, high-end box and just have to show off about it
    by asking "Will my new quad-core box with the dual SLI video cards with 1GB
    of video ram run Vista OK?" I just hate that kind of bragging.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Jan 16, 2007
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  6. Henry Jones

    Alias Guest

    You haven't seen anything yet. Wait until Vista is released to the
    general public ...

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jan 17, 2007
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  7. Henry Jones

    Scott Guest

    Henry Jones spake thusly on 1/16/2007 2:38 PM:
    Compared to other newsgroups (and not necessarily techie ones) this
    place is utterly backasswards.

    Yours is but one example.
     
    Scott, Jan 17, 2007
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  8. This is extremely typical of the MS newsgroups. Users don't think to look
    first and ask later. Its not something that will get fixed unfortunately,
    so many of us answer the questions over and over again.

    steve
     
    Steve Cochran, Jan 17, 2007
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  9. Henry Jones

    Rick Rogers Guest

    Rick Rogers, Jan 17, 2007
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  10. Henry,

    I agree with your observation, and have noticed it for years.

    However, since I use Windows Mail now and previously, Outlook Express, I can
    place a lot of the blame on the application's Search function.

    It hasn't changed for years and is still infantile in usability. Outside of
    searching for only one word at a time, you'll spend more time searching than
    finding relevance.

    Just my lost 2 centimes.

    --
    Mark-Allen Perry
    160825 / 1112165
    Windows Vista X64 Ultimate
    RTM Build 6000.16386
    ALPHA Systems
    Marly, Switzerland
    mark-allen @ mvps . org
     
    Mark-Allen [160825], Jan 17, 2007
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  11. Henry Jones

    Alias Guest

    Hence the need for Google to search newsgroups. Or, get a real
    newsreader like Thunderbird at www.mozilla.com/thunderbird that has a
    lot more search options.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jan 17, 2007
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  12. Henry Jones

    Alias Guest

    Vista already comes loaded with a trojan called SPP.

    Alias
     
    Alias, Jan 17, 2007
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  13. You can have a 1000 search options and people will still not use them.
    People even start messages with "I know this has been asked before . . . ."

    There is a fundamental laziness to people that will not be overcome with any
    number of search engines.

    And they did add the "search wheel" to WinMail in Vista, which is something
    although not near as nice as it could be.

    steve
     
    Steve Cochran, Jan 17, 2007
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  14. It's not laziness - many people want to ask their questions and
    communicate with other people, not just research some archived data. They
    want direct responses to *their* questions and need personal reassurance.
    If you don't want to answer the same-old, same-old questions, don't.
    Big woop.
     
    Michael Cecil, Jan 17, 2007
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  15. Henry Jones

    AJR Guest

    The number of daily posts aggravates the problem of "tracing" back. - in
    addition many (most) of the post subject titles are not adequate in
    assisting search functions.
     
    AJR, Jan 17, 2007
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  16. Henry Jones

    MICHAEL Guest

    Steve has spent years answering many questions over and over and over
    again. He does so in way that is helpful and without being condescending.

    I also believe Steve is more than likely correct, more than you, that
    many folks are just plain lazy. They'd rather have someone else do
    the work for them, instead of doing it themselves. It is quite indicative
    of the general mentality many folks have today.


    -Michael
     
    MICHAEL, Jan 17, 2007
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  17. Colin Barnhorst, Jan 17, 2007
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  18. Henry Jones

    MICHAEL Guest

    Good points.

    I believe that to be true, also.

    -Michael
     
    MICHAEL, Jan 17, 2007
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    Opinicus Guest

    Seems like someone asks *that* question about once a week or so...
     
    Opinicus, Jan 17, 2007
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    Gary Guest

    More FUDD for someone with NO experience running Vista.
     
    Gary, Jan 17, 2007
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