Does NTPClient need to be enabled for clients

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    News Guest

    Sorry if a dumb question. I noticed in GP that enable windows ntp client
    was set to not configured
    in computer config/admin/system/windows time service
    should this be changed to enabled? the workstations seem to all be synched
    as is

    Fred
     
    News, Feb 7, 2010
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  2. Hello News,

    You can normally stick to the default behaviour without using the GPO settings.
    Just configure the DC with the PDCEmulator role to an external time server.
    If you need to log or change the default behaviour for company policy reasons
    you can configure them.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
     
    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS], Feb 7, 2010
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  3. Hi Fred,

    As Meinolf said, it works fine with default settings using the default Time
    domain hierarchy. Very rarely have I seen the need to alter the defaults,
    maybe in a scenario with a banking transaction time stamping scenario.

    Take a look at my blog on the time service, for more info.

    Configuring the Windows Time Service for Windows Server
    http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/ar...-windows-time-service-for-windows-server.aspx


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    Ace Fekay [MVP-DS, MCT], Feb 7, 2010
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  4. The default behavior is on, unless you are concerned someone is going to
    mess with clients and start disabling them you don't need to set this in
    gpo. It is already set to on and since in the policy it is set to not
    configured the clients stay as their default configuration.

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    Paul Bergson [MVP-DS], Feb 8, 2010
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    Jorge Silva Guest

    Hi
    I don't understand why people insist in recommending external sources
    servers by default :)
    That is a bad recommendation!!!
    :p
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    Jorge Silva, Feb 9, 2010
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    Dave Warren Guest

    In message <> "Jorge
    Well, if you don't do something, your PDC will be unable to supply
    authoritative time and you won't get any synchronization at all.

    While you can set it to be an authoritative time source using the
    BIOS/CMOS clock as a time source, your entire network will be subject to
    this one machine's clock drift. Little will convince users you're
    incompetent faster than being unable to set a clock.

    Setting up the PDC to use an external time source is the easiest fix. Do
    you have a better suggestion?
     
    Dave Warren, Feb 10, 2010
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    Jorge Silva Guest

    Who said something about CMOs clock? Perhaps you?

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    Jorge Silva, Feb 10, 2010
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    Dave Warren Guest

    In message <> "Jorge
    Do you have a better suggestion as to a reliable local time source?
     
    Dave Warren, Feb 10, 2010
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  9. Hello Jorge,

    I see it as the cheapest/simple option if internet access is available. Of
    course you can use your own stratum 0 device also. Which option do you recommend?

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
     
    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS], Feb 10, 2010
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    Jorge Silva Guest

    Hum....
    Ok, what about a dedicated time server between the PDCe and the External
    Time server!!!
    Sounds good for you guys?

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    Jorge Silva, Feb 11, 2010
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  11. Hello Jorge,

    Of course this is an option. But as a small company you have to think about
    the cost also, additional hardware/software licenses. And i don't know if
    there is an option for them to use VMs with a open source time server.

    Best regards

    Meinolf Weber
     
    Meinolf Weber [MVP-DS], Feb 11, 2010
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    Jorge Silva Guest

    Hum...
    - I review all threads and I didn't found any reference to small companies
    :)
    - But what is a Small Company for you? 300/1000 Servers, 4000 Users?

    Anyway, most, if not, ALL of them have cheap routers that provide this
    functionally without additional cost.

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    Jorge Silva, Feb 11, 2010
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  13. We use our one of our data centers internal default gateway (Router).
    Everything feeds off of that.

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    Paul Bergson [MVP-DS], Feb 11, 2010
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  14. I have a cheap router sitting by my left hand as I type this, and I'm
    here to tell you that it doesn't contain an NTP server. There's very
    little to be gained by adding an extra stratum solely for the sake of
    dividing up the hops for the UDP/IP traffic, you know. And you're
    missing the point that what you are talking about is merely yet another
    form of external time server, not qualitatively different from any other
    as far as the Windows Time Service is concerned.
     
    Jonathan de Boyne Pollard, Feb 11, 2010
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    Jorge Silva Guest

    Hi
    Eheheh... Makes sence to me -:)

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    Jorge Silva, Feb 11, 2010
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    Jorge Silva Guest

    Eheheh... Makes sense to me -:)

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    Jorge Silva, Feb 11, 2010
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  17. It had best work well. It was $100K +.

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    Paul Bergson [MVP-DS], Feb 11, 2010
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    Jorge Silva Guest

    No, no, no :) You're missing the point -:)

    Is not the same thing... Why having DC on the public when you can perform
    that job internally


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    in message
     
    Jorge Silva, Feb 11, 2010
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    Jorge Silva Guest

    Sounds that you're all choosing the incorrect router...

    If you're a home user, and with Linksys router I believe that you're, try
    out SMC... -:) Forget that Linksys is Cisco based - LOL
    Otherwise ask Paul's $100K Router Vendor :)

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    Jorge Silva, Feb 11, 2010
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    Jorge Silva Guest

    Hi Paul
    What router are you talking about?
    Does it make stakes with French fries?

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    Jorge Silva, Feb 11, 2010
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