does the Windows8 Mail App support news, pop3, and imap?

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Roland Schweiger, May 18, 2012.

  1. sorry for OT, just thinking of testing the customer preview of
    Windows8, and if i understood correctly it comes with an eMail Client
    called Mail.
    Can anyone tell me in advance if the Mail thing of Win8 has a
    news-reader, and supports pop3, imap? i am sure it supports deltasync.

    greetings

    Roland Schweiger
     
    Roland Schweiger, May 18, 2012
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  2. Roland Schweiger

    Shamen Guest

    alt.comp.os.windows-8
     
    Shamen, May 18, 2012
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  3. "Shamen"

    Hm ... unfortunately none of my news servers lists that group. :-(

    reader.albasani.net

    news.eternal-september.org

    greetings
    Roland Schweiger
     
    Roland Schweiger, May 18, 2012
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  4. Roland Schweiger

    mac Guest

    news.eternal-september.org definitely does.
     
    mac, May 18, 2012
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  5. Roland Schweiger

    ...winston Guest

    The Windows 8 Consumer Preview (CP) app supports
    1. Hotmail type accounts (Hotmail.com, Live.com, Msn.com, and derivatives of
    the same domain e.g. Hotmail.nl, Live.uk.co, Msn.ca etc.)
    2. GMail accounts
    3. MSFT Exchange accounts.

    It does not support setting up an account using the Pop3 or IMAP protocol's
    required server settings.

    Win8CP (like Win7) does not provide a news (nntp) reading/posting client.
    Whether or not OEM's will include a Pop3/IMAP/Nntp client (e.g. OEM's had
    the ability [contractual] to pre-install Windows Live Essentials/WLE suite
    of programs) is not a given at this point in time.

    The WLE suite of programs, like other 3rd party clients can be installed on
    Win8CP.

    Possibly of interest..
    - The Win8CP Mail app only downloads and retains the last 2 weeks of
    messages
    - The Win8CP Mail app is more closely related to the Windows Phone 7. The
    latter does support Pop3.
    - The current Win8CP Mail app is an unfinished product...whether or not it
    will support Pop3 in the future is not known at this time. Though its'
    would be a safe bet to state that MSFT will not include an nttp client in
    Win8 (now or in the future).
    - Any Hotmail type account is capable of popping (aggregating) a Pop3
    account's inbox messages into the Hotmail web UI accounts Inbox or user
    designated folder. Aggregation is configured in the respective Hotmail
    account's web UI settings.

    --
    ....winston
    msft mvp mail


    "Roland Schweiger" wrote in message
    sorry for OT, just thinking of testing the customer preview of
    Windows8, and if i understood correctly it comes with an eMail Client
    called Mail.
    Can anyone tell me in advance if the Mail thing of Win8 has a
    news-reader, and supports pop3, imap? i am sure it supports deltasync.

    greetings

    Roland Schweiger
     
    ...winston, May 18, 2012
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  6. "...winston"

    -----
    Win8CP (like Win7) does not provide a news (nntp) reading/posting
    client.
    Whether or not OEM's will include a Pop3/IMAP/Nntp client (e.g. OEM's
    had
    the ability [contractual] to pre-install Windows Live Essentials/WLE
    suite
    of programs) is not a given at this point in time.

    The WLE suite of programs, like other 3rd party clients can be
    installed on
    Win8CP.

    Possibly of interest..
    - The Win8CP Mail app only downloads and retains the last 2 weeks of
    messages
    - The Win8CP Mail app is more closely related to the Windows Phone 7.
    The
    latter does support Pop3.
    - The current Win8CP Mail app is an unfinished product...whether or
    not it
    will support Pop3 in the future is not known at this time. Though
    its'
    would be a safe bet to state that MSFT will not include an nttp client
    in
    Win8 (now or in the future).
    - Any Hotmail type account is capable of popping (aggregating) a Pop3
    account's inbox messages into the Hotmail web UI accounts Inbox or
    user
    designated folder. Aggregation is configured in the respective
    Hotmail
    account's web UI settings.
    ------------

    Tnx for the overview. For the moment, it sounds relatively
    disappointing to me so i assume it might be better using the WLM
    mail/news reader for testing purposes?
    Certainly i do know that POP3 (and also IMAP) are very old protocols
    and may in long term be phased out. However they still make 90% or
    more of world wide eMail usage and somehow it disappoints if you test
    a new os + clients and find yourself having less performance than
    before.
    However, the main interest is in how the OS performs and if i can get
    used to metro or not ... just want to test Win8; on a separate (eSATA)
    disk from which i will boot it, but thats OT.
    Anyhow tnx for the overview.

    greetings

    Roland Schweiger
     
    Roland Schweiger, May 18, 2012
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  7. " mac"
    Don't know why, it simply will not show up.

    gr.

    Roland Schweiger
     
    Roland Schweiger, May 18, 2012
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  8. Roland Schweiger

    ...winston Guest

    "Roland Schweiger" wrote in message
    Tnx for the overview. For the moment, it sounds relatively
    disappointing to me so i assume it might be better using the WLM
    mail/news reader for testing purposes?
    Certainly i do know that POP3 (and also IMAP) are very old protocols
    and may in long term be phased out. However they still make 90% or
    more of world wide eMail usage and somehow it disappoints if you test
    a new os + clients and find yourself having less performance than
    before.
    However, the main interest is in how the OS performs and if i can get
    used to metro or not ... just want to test Win8; on a separate (eSATA)
    disk from which i will boot it, but thats OT.
    Anyhow tnx for the overview.

    greetings

    Roland Schweiger
    ==============

    If you plan on testing Win8CP for news then a 3rd party news client or use
    of WLM is necessary (most likely will be in the future)

    Yes, Pop and IMAP continue to be protocols used by many.

    For Win8 you might find these links of interest.
    Windows 8 Consumer Preview (Product Guide)
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/consumer-preview
    - fyi..bottom of the page on the above link (Watch the video; Product Guide
    in pdf)

    A collection by Dr.Z, a senior Microsoft Architect Evangelist, that
    currently includes 26 how-to articles:
    Windows 8 Consumer Preview Power User How To Series
    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/zxue/archiv...consumer-preview-power-user-howto-series.aspx

    A deep dive into Windows 8 Consumer Preview
    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9224868/A_deep_dive_into_Windows_8_Consumer_Preview

    Detailed look at the Consumer Preview of Windows 8
    http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/hands-on-windows-8-review-1025259

    Windows 8 Context Menu options for Shutdown, Restart, Logoff, Sleep.
    http://captaindbg.com/shutdown-restart-sleep-logoff-context-menuwindows-8-cp/

    The Metro hater's guide to customizing Windows 8 Consumer Preview
    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/the-metro-haters-guide-to-customizing-windows-8-consumer-preview/4610

    How to Add Shutdown and Restart Shortcuts to Windows 8 Metro UI
    http://www.labnol.org/software/shutdown-restart-in-windows-8/20989/
     
    ...winston, May 18, 2012
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  9. "...winston"

    -----
    For Win8 you might find these links of interest.
    Windows 8 Consumer Preview (Product Guide)
    http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/consumer-preview
    - fyi..bottom of the page on the above link (Watch the video; Product
    Guide
    in pdf)

    A collection by Dr.Z, a senior Microsoft Architect Evangelist, that
    currently includes 26 how-to articles:
    Windows 8 Consumer Preview Power User How To Series
    http://blogs.msdn.com/b/zxue/archiv...consumer-preview-power-user-howto-series.aspx

    A deep dive into Windows 8 Consumer Preview
    http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9224868/A_deep_dive_into_Windows_8_Consumer_Preview

    Detailed look at the Consumer Preview of Windows 8
    http://www.techradar.com/news/software/operating-systems/hands-on-windows-8-review-1025259

    Windows 8 Context Menu options for Shutdown, Restart, Logoff, Sleep.
    http://captaindbg.com/shutdown-restart-sleep-logoff-context-menuwindows-8-cp/

    The Metro hater's guide to customizing Windows 8 Consumer Preview
    http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/the-metro-haters-guide-to-customizing-windows-8-consumer-preview/4610

    How to Add Shutdown and Restart Shortcuts to Windows 8 Metro UI
    http://www.labnol.org/software/shutdown-restart-in-windows-8/20989/

    -- ----

    Tnx! Very useful; will start testing tomorrow, as i said, on an
    external (eSATA) HDD thus completely separated from my Win7.
    greetings
    Roland Schweiger
     
    Roland Schweiger, May 18, 2012
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  10. Roland Schweiger

    ...winston Guest

    "Roland Schweiger" wrote in message
    Tnx! Very useful; will start testing tomorrow, as i said, on an
    external (eSATA) HDD thus completely separated from my Win7.
    greetings
    Roland Schweiger
    yw
    ....w
     
    ...winston, May 19, 2012
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  11. "...winston"

    -----
    Tnx! Very useful; will start testing tomorrow, as i said, on an
    external (eSATA) HDD thus completely separated from my Win7.
    greetings
    Roland Schweiger
    yw
    ....w

    ----------

    Though we are still OT here (and might be annoying others), here are
    my very 1st impressions after testing for about 2 hours.
    The system is an intel i7 (920), an ASUS p6t deluxe mobo, 2x 3GB RAM,
    an internal SATA-II HDD for Windows7 and an external eSATA HDD for the
    Win8 test, i switch the boot device in the BIOS so there are no boot
    managers installed.

    Installation went fine and i used a @live.at eMail address for login
    account; all worked fine, updates all worked fine and at 1st glance
    all devices on the mobo are detected automatically.

    So far so good.
    The style of operation however is at 1st glance very very difficult
    to get customized to.
    I have no touch screen so must operate the metro apps by
    keyboard/mouse; at 1st i even did not figure out how to CLOSE an
    application. :-(
    For proper keyboard/mouse usage i guess one has to use desktop
    applications.
    Metro is somehow difficult - on every edge something pops up and the
    hybrid intentional operating style of touch/keyboard/mouse tends to
    bind more brain ressources that it originally wanted to release.

    Seems that "under the hood" there are many benefits especially
    hardware/driver detection.
    The operating style however is confusing to me; difficult to
    understand. Somehow a missing concept to me.
    And for some reason it reminds me of APPLE and as im MS wanted to copy
    their style ..... but somehow i find this a little "embarassing"
    because there is no need why MS shoud do this.

    In the past i have been doing some programming myself, and again at
    1st glance i do not see any really great programming goals compared to
    Win7.
    I do understand that one goal is: same OS on mobilephone
    ("smart"phone) and tablet and PC ... but we are far away from this --
    and i hope in future everything will get sorted out a little bit.

    For the time being, when working at home or in an office - on a
    desktop PC, one has to use desktop applications ind i hope they will
    be with us for a while; though i don't want to sound like getting old.

    Amyhow for the time being its back to Win7 (and WLM) and i do hope
    that WLM will still be developed.

    By the way, deep changes like the ReFS (the file system after NTFS)
    will not be implemented in consumer versions if i understood
    correctly?

    OK, so much for now and again sorry for OT.

    greetings

    Roland Schweiger
     
    Roland Schweiger, May 19, 2012
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  12. Roland Schweiger

    BillW50 Guest

    Depending on the reader and the configuration and all, you might need to
    refresh the newsgroup list before that newsgroup will show up. This is
    true of all newsgroups that were created since you last downloaded the
    newsgroup list.
     
    BillW50, Jun 1, 2012
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