Does Vista registry ever need any 3rd party 'cleaner software?'

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by captfbgnet, Nov 7, 2007.

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    captfbgnet Guest

    A lot of registry cleaners are out there claiming a lot of things. In
    Windows 98 and in XP they probably helped a lot to optimize and compact the
    registry. Do we know or have enough information yet about how or if Vista
    handles it's own registry efficiency, and perhaps, not requiring any
    additional 3rd party help? PCWorld touts some effective cleaners etc, but I
    couldn't find much 'on point' in the windows knowledgebase. I always crossed
    my fingers when I used one in '98 and XP even though I had backed up the
    registry. Thanks for any information.


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    David Guest

    try Auslogics.
     
    David, Nov 7, 2007
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    Do not use a general registry cleaner in Vista.

    Unless of course you like having to reinstall everything from scratch.

    The use of a program specific cleaner that removes entries pertaining to a
    particular issue is fine, and these are usually distributed for free from
    the software vendor. General cleaners often misidentify entries as dead and
    remove them when in fact they are needed for normal operations. As Vista,
    like XP, does not suffer from registry bloat, a general cleaner does nothing
    for you, but it does line the pockets of the program vendors.
     
    Rick Rogers, Nov 7, 2007
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  4. You will probably be better off without them.
    They rarely provide any noticeable benefit but incorrect use can
    damage Windows.

    If you decide to use them anyways, make sure you are thoroughly
    familiar with the tool including on how the features for restoring
    information that should not have been deleted.
    If you can not positively determine the exact use of something, do not
    let the tool delete or modify it.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Nov 7, 2007
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    Kevin Weaver Guest

    Tell that to Microsoft then.
     
    Kevin Weaver, Nov 7, 2007
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    I have.
     
    Rick Rogers, Nov 7, 2007
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    anandk Guest

    Even I am of the opinion that for Vista you dont really need a Registry
    Cleaner. However if you are in the habit of installing/uninstalling/trying a
    lot of software, then I'd suggest you use freeware CCleaner, which i have
    found to be safe.
     
    anandk, Nov 7, 2007
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    captfbgnet Guest

    Thanks to everyone who replied. As always your combined answers and, in this
    case all pointed to the same conclusion, were extremely helpful. I'm 'outta
    here' with any registry cleaners.
     
    captfbgnet, Nov 7, 2007
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  9. No, they were nothing but snake oil, even then.


    Why do you think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
    specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
    bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
    using a registry "cleaner?"

    If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
    be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
    specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
    all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
    the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
    to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
    multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
    your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

    The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
    the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
    device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
    registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
    loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
    confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
    each and every change.

    Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
    automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
    experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
    Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
    of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
    maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
    experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
    no matter how safe they claim to be.

    More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
    automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
    inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
    certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
    of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
    performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
    worth the risk.

    Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
    every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
    And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
    good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
    real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
    effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
    non-existent benefits.

    I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
    of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
    useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
    any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
    registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
    Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
    in the hands of the inexperienced user.


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    Bruce Chambers, Nov 8, 2007
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