Does Vista still suck?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Talk' started by Clark, Sep 16, 2007.

  1. Clark

    Clark Guest

    I'll bet it does.
    And for that matter Office 2007 too.

    I am actually using Open Office now, I never used the finished version of
    Office 2007, but hated the beta versions.


    I still have to use Vista, as about three of my customers have it, biggest
    complaint, Computer not coming out of sleep mode, need to reboot.

    Clark
    Microsoft Partner
    Microsoft Beta Tester
     
    Clark, Sep 16, 2007
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    Hertz_Donut Guest


    Is Clark an idiot?

    Yes he is.

    Honu
     
    Hertz_Donut, Sep 19, 2007
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  3. Clark

    Clark Guest

    I don't think he is, but you are entitled to your opinion.
    So does Vista still suck or are you going to hijack the thread?

    Clark
     
    Clark, Sep 20, 2007
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  4. Clark

    Hertz_Donut Guest



    It was not a hijack. It was a response. Vista does not suck or you have
    any idea of what you are doing.
    And yes, I do believe you are an idiot for posting "Does Vista still suck"
    and giving no basis for your sorry attempt
    at what I supposed you thought was humor.

    Honu
     
    Hertz_Donut, Sep 21, 2007
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  5. Clark

    Clark Guest

    Why are you trying to turn the topic to my IQ? (ie calling me an idiot)
    All I'm looking for is opinions, you gave yours, then attacked me.
    Don't you have better things to do?
    If you don't like the Post or the Subject simply do not reply to it.

    I still think Vista is an operating system that was released before it
    should have been, (ie SUCKS)
    for instance did you know that Microsoft released a version of Vista that
    was not intended to go retail?
    Vista candidate 1 was released to the public instead of release canandite 2
    (the intended retail) which was pulled from Microsoft's website a few days
    after it was available to beta testers like me, because it was so unstable.

    chew on that for a while

    Clark
     
    Clark, Sep 21, 2007
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  6. Clark

    Hertz_Donut Guest

    See what I mean about you being an idiot?

    I have been and Official BETA tester since Windows 98 days.

    RC1 was not very stable on older systems.

    RC2 was pretty stable on every system I tested it on. The problem with
    stability was related to
    chipset and graphics card drivers not being written specifically for RC2.

    The release version has been rock solid stable on *every* system I have put
    it on.
    Of course, I do the requisite research first and make sure that all required
    drivers
    are available, that the system motherboard and chipset have the latest
    firmware and
    drivers, and always do a clean install or a dual boot.

    I have not found any 32 bit version of Vista to be unstable.

    Honu






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    Hertz_Donut, Sep 22, 2007
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  7. Clark

    Clark Guest

    Hertz_Donut wrote:

    The IT department at TD Banknorth would disagree with the stability issues.
    Did you get an Official badge??
    There you go name calling again, does it make you feel like a big man?
    So every time Microsoft comes out with a new RC or patch, manufacturers
    should re-write all their drivers?
    You must not have much else to do if you have time for all that, maybe it's
    time to get a life?

    Maybe we should just throw out our existing systems and buy "approved"
    hardware every time Microsoft comes out with a new OS?
    As usual Microsoft released an OS before it was really ready, and Vista
    still SUCKS, but hopefully it will get better when the patches come out in
    Oct, Oh wait they might not make that deadline either, but that would be par
    for the course.

    Trust me I'm not a Microsoft hater, I'm using their product right now, I'm
    just stating my opinions
    Clark
     
    Clark, Sep 22, 2007
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    Miles Perry Guest

    We are all MS beta testers. (But then all Linux users are the same.)
    This has been the way since Win 3.1
    WinXP semed more stable than Vista, but then it had been
    upgraded many times before that stability and (passing) security
    arrived.
    One thing, Vista advertises itself when something goes down,
    in an attempt to show how much better it can deal with the problem.
    Personally, I would have gone for a Windows Explorer that did not
    crash on me every time I executed an instruction, or used the Search
    facility, rather than the cool advice that it was restarting.
     
    Miles Perry, Sep 22, 2007
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  9. Clark

    Clark Guest

    Thank you! a real response.

    I personally don't remember XP being much better than 98 at first, I do
    remember these types of comments, 98 is faster than XP, 98 takes up less
    room on your hard drive,
    98 needs less RAM etc, now we look at Vista and XP, XP takes me about 45 min
    to install on an Athlon 2600,
    Vista took about 3.5 hours on the exact same machine(ultimate edition),
    that's with a GIG of RAM and a TI 4200. My install including swap file was
    22 or 24 GIG before updates!
    I personally think Vista puts way to much emphasis on "eye candy" like aero
    windows, BIG deal.
    My customers that have Vista, I have pointed out the aero windows option and
    to date every one of them said and I quote So?
    As far as Linux, I'm really diggin Ubuntu, and I been using Linux since it
    was all text based. (what do you mean *bash)? I just want to mount my floppy
    drive ugh!!!!

    If you have not used Ubuntu, and you have a hard drive handy, you should
    really give it a try, I think if it weren't for gaming it could be my every
    day OS.

    thanks again for a real dialog Miles.

    Clark...
     
    Clark, Sep 22, 2007
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  10. Clark

    Hertz_Donut Guest

    Then they are not much of an IT department, are they?
    No more than you get a badge for being an idiot...
    Review the thread. *YOU* were the one who began calling *me* names.
    Thats the way things generally work...but then again you are as ignorant of
    that simple fact as you are of operating systems.
    I have quitre a good life. I make enough money that I do not have to work.
    I live in a home that costs more that you will make in your
    entire life. I have worked hard all my life to get where I am now, and I am
    now able to fully enjoy the fruits of my labor. One of theose benefits
    is having plenty of leisure time.




    Why then does MS even bother to publish a WHQL list?
    Oh, I forgot, you are ignorant of that fact, also?

    It was the most tested OS they ever released. 4 years in development. The
    largest base of beta testers in their history.
    Again, you display your ignorance.


    and Vista
    Well, for someone like you, it probably does.


    but hopefully it will get better when the patches come out in
    I doubt you'll have your head out of your ass long enough to know....

    Oh wait they might not make that deadline either, but that would be par
    And you'll whine about that, too! Par for the course...you just whine about
    everything instead of trying to
    solve your issues.
    No, we have already established that you are a whiner that has no
    troubleshooting skills.

    I'm using their product right now, I'm
    You mistakenly assume that your experience is the norm. It is not. Your
    opinion is worthless in the overall scheme of things. You were not
    expressing an opinion, you were whining. There is a difference.



    Honu
     
    Hertz_Donut, Sep 23, 2007
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  11. Clark

    Hertz_Donut Guest

    So instead of fixing the problem, you just let it continue to crash on you?


    Honu
     
    Hertz_Donut, Sep 23, 2007
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  12. Clark

    Hertz_Donut Guest

    Of course, because it didn't come from you!

    Honu
     
    Hertz_Donut, Sep 23, 2007
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  13. Clark

    Clark Guest

    Could you please find where I started name calling? I have reviewed the
    thread and I cannot find what you are referring to.
    I do see however in the last post you have called me an idiot again.
    Do you even know what TD Banknorth is? They have a very large and
    knowledgeable IT staff, hundreds actually, you know, with certifications and
    all that.

    You do not have to work. you just have to wait for the SSI check to come in
    every month.
    I actually own two homes and work for a living, Fixing and repairing
    computers as a matter of fact.

    You do know that you are replying to a post that was not intended for you in
    the first place.
    My last post was intended for Miles, but you continue to try to hijack the
    thread.
    *You must stop posting to this thread or I will have to take away all of
    your Internet access.* ;-)

    rest of the rubbish you spewed is
    <sniped>
    Clark
     
    Clark, Sep 23, 2007
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  14. Clark

    Hertz_Donut Guest

    Yet they cannot manage to integrate a new OS? They would be dealing with
    baseline drivers, root certificates, and the like, and would
    probably have the resources to work closely with MS...and they still cannot
    get the OS to be stable? Guess all those certs don't mean much...
    Whistling out your ass again...

    I own one home, am semi-retired and do consulting work.
    I make more in one year than you'll make in ten.
    It doesn't make me any better than you, but then I don't "have" to work,
    unlike you.

    This is an open community newsgroup. You posted a comment in this group.
    When you do that, you have to accept that
    others may read your post and respond to it. Had you wished to deal only
    with one person, you should have used email or
    a private chat. Conversely, you could have chosen to not acknowledge or
    respond to my post.
    Once again, I am incapable of hijacking any thread. I can and will respond
    to any post I choose to respond to. You cannot tell me, or anyone else,
    when, where or to whom I can respond.



    Honu
     
    Hertz_Donut, Sep 24, 2007
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  15. Clark

    Clark Guest

    Could you please find where I started name calling? I have reviewed
    the thread and I cannot find what you are referring to.
    If your so well off, Why don't you have something better to do?
    Why don't you go on a nice long vacation, you know, like away from this
    thread?


    Your right I will make the necessary adjustments so I will no longer see
    your postings...
    You sir are a Troll and this will be the last time I respond to you.

    Please find the nearest mental health facility and have yourself evaluated,
    as you seem to think your rich, powerful, know absolutely everything. and
    cannot conceive that other people in this world may have an opinion
    different than yours.

    I post to this group to help and confer, you post to this group to attack
    and Troll, I hope you are happy in your little delusional world.

    Clark
     
    Clark, Sep 24, 2007
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  16. Clark

    Hertz_Donut Guest

    Who are you to presume to tell me what to do? I have every right to post
    here, whenever I please. You, with your gestapo mentality, have no right to
    tell anyone what to do. I can see why you post such garbage. Your
    mentality is that of a spoiled 5 year old.
    Please do so at your earliest convenience!

    That is the first decent thing you have ever done in your life.
    Why? Because I bother to disagree with you? Because I refuse to treat you
    like you wish, being the childish prima-donna you are?
    Depends on your definition of "rich". I have enough money to live quite
    comfortably, but it is the other things in life that make me "rich".


    powerful,

    I am no more powerful than you. The difference between us is that I do not
    suffer delusions of grandeur as do you.


    know absolutely everything.

    I know quite a bit about many things. I'll be the first to admit that I do
    not know anything about a great many things as well. Again, it is you that
    is afflicted with megalomaniacal needs to be "right" and to prove that you
    are "better".


    and
    Funny! You are the one that challenged me on my opinion, remember? You
    asked "does Vista still suck", expecting everyone to says "why yes, your
    highness, it does...." but I had the audacity to say it does not suck. I
    questioned your claim, and it obviously made you quite mad.
    And your post did not accomplish either....


    you post to this group to attack

    Review the thread.....your chronology is skewed....
    Can't see how that would be possible....the only one living in delusion is
    you.


    Enjoy yourself!

    Honu
     
    Hertz_Donut, Sep 25, 2007
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  17. Clark

    Clark... Guest

    Why yes it does!!!!!!!
    Clark...
     
    Clark..., Nov 19, 2007
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