DOS logon Windows Server 2003

Discussion in 'Server Networking' started by Andreas Wöckl, Aug 9, 2006.

  1. Hi Group!

    I have a special problem with a norton ghost boot disc that uses a PC DOS
    Version. I would like to logon on my domain with the command: net logon
    /domain:HAK ...!

    After that I would like to use a network share for ghost imaging. after the
    net logon I get the following error message in German:

    "Sie wurden angemeldet, aber nicht von einem Server bestätigt.
    Möglicherweise haben Sie keine Berechtigung um einige der Netzwerkressourcen
    zu benutzen."

    That could be the following in English....

    "You have been logged on but your logon has not been confirmed by a server.
    Perhab you do not have the permission to use some network resources.." (free
    translation)

    I found that I have to disable SMB signing on my domain controllers - Well I
    did but that did not help me. This disk works with a Windows2000 DC - so
    there are no errors in the batches!

    Anyone an idea what I could try (other DOS version..?). A solution could
    help me save a lot of time when imaging computers!

    best regards

    andy
     
    Andreas Wöckl, Aug 9, 2006
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    I've been using Ghost since v 2.d (1995). Usually disabling SMB signing will
    do the trick with a 2003 domain, whether using MS DOS, or PC DOS.

    How did you disable SMB signing?

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    Ace Fekay [MVP], Aug 11, 2006
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  3. Hi Ace!

    I disabled the policy in the "default domain controller policy" - that
    should be the right way..?

    best regards

    andy
     
    Andreas Wöckl, Aug 14, 2006
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    Yes, that's the way. Do you remember the name of the setting you disabled?

    Here's the setting:

    811497 - Error Message When Windows 95 or Windows NT 4.0 Client Logs On to
    Windows Server 2003 Domain:
    http://support.microsoft.com/?id=811497

    I haven't used PC DOS. I've always used MS DOS. In know some guys that use
    PC DOS without problems to 2003 DCs.

    How exactly are you logging on? When I log on, I just specify the username
    as say, administrator, then just type in the password. I don't specify the
    domain name, it defaults to the domain's administrator account since on the
    DOS side, if you do not specify any workgroup or domain in the system.ini
    file, then it just defaults to the resource's domain or workgroup you are
    connecting to.

    Ace
     
    Ace Fekay [MVP], Aug 15, 2006
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  5. Hi Ace!

    We are using the following command to logon: (the user ghost has domain
    admin rights!)

    net logon ghost ghost /domain:HAK

    The system then prompts for a password - we reenter ghost and then get the
    error message i described!

    best regards

    andy
     
    Andreas Wöckl, Aug 16, 2006
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    Just use

    net logon ghost

    then enter the password. Try that. Otherwise, try:

    net logon ghost /domain:HAK

    Also, post your system.ini file please.

    Here's a reference guide for the net logon command:
    http://www.geocities.com/rick_lively/MANUALS/COMMANDS/N/NETLOGON.HTM





    Ace
     
    Ace Fekay [MVP], Aug 18, 2006
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  7. Hi Aces - thanks for your answers - I will have my next tries on Wednesday
    next week!

    I hope I can post the system.ini file before as I do not have the start disk
    now!

    thanks

    andy
     
    Andreas Wöckl, Aug 19, 2006
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  8. Hi Ace!

    Here is the content o system.ini:

    [network]
    computername=c61
    filesharing=no
    printsharing=no
    autologon=yes
    lanroot=k:\NET
    username=ghost
    workgroup=hak
    reconnect=no
    directhost=no
    dospophotkey=N
    lmlogon=0
    logondomain=hak
    preferredredir=full
    autostart=full
    maxconnections=20

    [network drivers]
    netcard=B57.dos
    transport=ndishlp.sys,*netbeui
    devdir=k:\NET
    LoadRMDrivers=yes

    [Password Lists]
    *Shares=k:\net\Shares.PWL

    GHOST=k:\NET\GHOST.PWL
     
    Andreas Wöckl, Aug 20, 2006
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    Thanks for posting that!

    HAK is already set as the workgroup, which it also looks at it as the domain
    name too. SO you can just specifiy the username without the domain. I've
    been doing that for years that way.

    I see that you are using NetBEUI. Is that also installed on the server you
    are trying to connect to? May I suggest to simplify it by using creating a
    TCPIP bootable instead of using NetBEUI? NetBEUI is too much overhead on the
    network. Even IPXSPX is better than NetBEUI.

    Ace
     
    Ace Fekay [MVP], Aug 21, 2006
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  10. Hi Ace!

    Now I tried an bootdisk from www.netbootdisc.com and had the same error -
    now in english:

    "You were logged on but have not been validated by a server". Therfore you
    may not have permission to use some network resources"

    I also could see that there are no entries in the event log for logons - if
    other users logon i can see entries - so I think there might go something
    wrong with the logon process..

    any further ideas - I will now also try in another domain!

    cu

    andy


     
    Andreas Wöckl, Aug 23, 2006
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    What protocol are you using? I think the problem maybe using NetBEUI or
    possibly in the protocol.ini file. I found one article talking about
    ODI/NDIS issues wtih the same thing, but that was for IPX.

    But according to the article below, it says to ignore the error and that you
    got logged on anyway. Curious, have you tried to simply map a drive after
    you get the message and change to that drive letter?

    LAN Manager MS-DOS NET LOGON: LANAs and Validation
    http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;98084

    I would highly suggest to use TCP/IP for your bootable when connecting to
    2003. It eliminate alot of the above issues and is also less overhead on
    your server to run any additional protocols. I don't know what
    netbootdisc.com has to offer in TCPIP, but I built my own custom 2.8meg
    network bootable image that supports 45 different NICs that I burned to a CD
    using Bart's Boot disks, which works great. It took me months of tweaking it
    before I got it right. I suggest to take a look at Bart's site and his
    methods. Read up on it and learn it. It's a great tool.
    http://www.nu2.nu/bootdisk/network/

    Let me know how you make out.

    Ace
     
    Ace Fekay [MVP], Aug 24, 2006
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  12. Hi Ace!

    Many thanks for your answers - I am now on vacation for a week and will let
    you know how we solved the problem!

    best regards

    andy
     
    Andreas Wöckl, Aug 25, 2006
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    Enjoy!
     
    Ace Fekay [MVP], Aug 28, 2006
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  14. Hello Ace

    I'm having the same trouble as Andreas is, I have read the whole thread and
    tried all your ideas, with no luck.

    You are writting that you made your own boot cd, with 45 NIC drivers on it
    and you can make it work with a Windows 2003 Server share.

    Would you be so kind to share you boot cd?

    Best Regards
    Jesper Jensen
     
    Jesper Jensen, Oct 5, 2006
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