Easycleaner Registry Cleaner on Vista

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by jim817, Nov 24, 2007.

  1. jim817

    jim817 Guest

    After reading many posts on Vistax64 forums and a few blogs an
    comments, I decided that Registry Cleaners are no longer needed i
    Vista. I now believe this and have stopped using EasyCleaner to clean m
    registry. Now that I've stopped using it, does anyone recommend I und
    all the registry cleaning it's done? It provides an "Undo" feature t
    restore registry keys it deleted, but I'm afraid doing so might rende
    my system unusable, especially since I've installed/uninstalled man
    programs ever since I first started cleaning my registry. Do yo
    recommend undoing all the cleaning it did and are their possible risk
    in doing so? Thanks.

    One more thing, I also registry cleaned using CCleaner. In addition t
    EasyCleaner, should I restore CCleaners backups of the registry
     
    jim817, Nov 24, 2007
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  2. Actually, Registry Cleaners have never been particularly useful on any
    Microsoft OS, and have always been dangerous to use.


    This is good.

    As you've made changes to your computer's software configuration since
    using those snake oil products, you can't trust their "undo" features to
    safely put things back, primarily because the "back" that they've
    recorded no longer exists. Leave well enough alone; if your PC is still
    working properly, don't try to "fix" it.


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    Bruce Chambers, Nov 24, 2007
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    Thanks Bruce. I'll just leave my system alone then and uninstall my
    registry cleaners. My computer is running just fine. One more thing,
    besides defragmenting the computer and cleaning junk (I use ccleaner for
    this), are there any other tools to use or things to do for maintaining
    Vista?
     
    jim817, Nov 24, 2007
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  4. One more thing,
    I hate to nitpick (and I'm sure I'll unleash a torrent of abuse), but Vista
    has its own perfectly good, automatic, defragger. You don't need to even
    think about it.

    There is not one jot of proper, validated evidence published that shows
    third party defraggers have any advantage over the built one.

    SteveT
     
    Steve Thackery, Nov 25, 2007
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  5. jim817

    caretaker Guest

    That I agree with, the Vista defrag is the best for it. All the res
    about not having to use Reg Cleaners is just crab. unless one wants t
    run with decreased efficienc
     
    caretaker, Nov 25, 2007
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  6. jim817

    jim817 Guest

    Haha, oddly enough, I also use the Vista Defragmenter despite all the
    negative comments about it. I used to use JKDefrag until I found out it
    undid Vista's boot optimization.
     
    jim817, Nov 25, 2007
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  7. No, that's pretty much all that is needed: cleaning out the temporary
    files, and defragmentation.


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    Bruce Chambers, Nov 25, 2007
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  8. jim817

    caretaker Guest

    Plus CCleaner or similar lol. Highly recommended
     
    caretaker, Nov 25, 2007
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  9. jim817

    jim817 Guest

    ok cool. Thanks guys for the advice.
     
    jim817, Nov 25, 2007
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    Dave Balcom Guest

    On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 02:47:49 -0000, "Steve Thackery"

    }There is not one jot of proper, validated evidence published that shows
    }third party defraggers have any advantage over the built one.

    What about speed? The built in defragger took several hours to do what
    my third party app did in under 60 minutes. However to be fair, it has
    been a while since I tried the built in program...
     
    Dave Balcom, Nov 28, 2007
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  11. jim817

    caretaker Guest

    I tried most 3rd party defrag software and found that initially the all
    looked good but after a while you will notice a loss of performance.
    Have gone back to the Vista one. But that test was performed on 64bit.
     
    caretaker, Nov 28, 2007
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  12. jim817

    jim817 Guest

    The only reason I use the built-in one is because it's automatic and
    free. Why bother with third-party apps? Because I run it off-hours, it
    doesn't affect me that much whether it takes 10 minutes or 60. I don't
    notice any changes in performance between the built-in defragger and
    third-party apps (although I have only free defraggers which were
    Auslogics and JKDefrag).
     
    jim817, Nov 28, 2007
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  13. I don't think registry cleaner is dangerous unless you don't gackup.
    See this article: 'The Danger of Registry Cleaner'
    (http://www.review-registry-cleaner.com/comp-problem/the-danger-of-registry-cleaner/).

    There are many free registry cleaner which is good:
    CCleaner => http://www.ccleaner.com/
    RegSeeker => http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
    EUsing
    =>http://www.eusing.com/free_registry_cleaner/registry_cleaner.htm

    Old day Registry cleaner is very dangerous, and may damage your
    windows, but modern registry cleaners will auto backup before any
    repair attempt, is quite safe!
     
    supertechgeek, Jan 1, 2008
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  14. (Spam-vertising link snipped.)

    The above sentence, based on the remainder of the post, should have
    ended with: "I don't think."

    No, that is completely untrue. There is no such thing as a good
    registry cleaner, regardless of price. They're all snake oil. Even if
    one were to do no harm, it does absolutely *NO* good to use one: they do
    nothing useful or beneficial.


    Not at all true. Many offer the option to back up the registry, but
    almost none do it automatically.

    And how does that help, when the registry "cleaner" has rendered the
    computer unbootable, thereby making that backup unavailable?


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    Bruce Chambers, Jan 1, 2008
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  15. I am curious, there is so many registry cleaners out there and all i
    snake oil?

    I think user is smart enough to determine for themselves. Too man
    rumors and I only trust my own experience.

    No harm to try, just backup manually if you are not sure. You ca
    always restore the registry, use regedit to export as backup and impor
    as restore.

    I tried registry cleaner this way. No problem so far. This is just m
    own experience, if you think registry cleaner is that unsafe, jus
    ignore it.

    There are still many ways to counter PC problems, registry cleaner i
    just one of them.

    Registry Cleaner is just a tool, use it wisely or "stupidly" is on you
    own, just like people saying car is no good, will crash and kill you
    don't drive it!!

    I urge everyone to try suggestion themselves, other people like me i
    just sharing our experience or unfortunate experience, it may no
    apply..
     
    supertechgeek, Jan 2, 2008
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  16. Unfortunately, yes.


    Unless what the registry cleaner does is bad enough that you can not
    boot. And that sometimes happens.


    I'm glad to hear you haven't had a problem, but you've been lucky.
    Nobody claims that a registry cleaner will screw up your computer
    every time you use one. Most of the time, you get away with it. But
    there is *always* a risk, and since the registry cleaner does nothing
    that's worth doing, it makes no sense to take any risk at all.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Jan 2, 2008
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  17. Exactly! Even when a registry "cleaner" does no harm, it does
    absolutely nothing that is of any use or benefit.

    Then you haven't met very many users, I'm afraid.

    No, it isn't a "tool!" That's the whole point. Registry "cleaners" do
    absolutely nothing that is of any use or benefit. So why bother and
    take a chance of damaging a system, when there is nothing to be gained?





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    Bruce Chambers, Jan 3, 2008
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  18. jim817

    caretaker Guest

    the Free CCleaner is very good and I think nessesary on all win. OS'
     
    caretaker, Jan 4, 2008
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  19. Although CCleaner is certainly not at all necessary, it *is* a good
    product. I use it myself. But it does many different things, and the
    one thing I strongly recommend *not* using it for is its registry
    cleaning function.
     
    Ken Blake, MVP, Jan 4, 2008
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  20. CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use it, lies
    in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
    drive; as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse
    than any other snake oil product of the same type.

    In my testing, though, most of the reported "issues" won't be issues,
    at all. I tried the latest version on a brand-new OS installation with
    no additional applications installed, and certainly none installed and
    then uninstalled, and CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred
    allegedly orphaned registry entries and dozens of purportedly
    "suspicious" files, making it clearly a worthless product, in this regard.


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    killed a great many philosophers.
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    Bruce Chambers, Jan 4, 2008
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