Email without attachment but size indicates attachment?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Mail' started by Walter Cohen, Jan 4, 2008.

  1. Walter Cohen

    Walter Cohen Guest

    Someone sent me an email with an attachment (family-related newsletter) but
    when I go to my Inbox it does not show the attachment as the paperclip.
    The size of the email does indeed indicate an attachment at about 6 MB.

    If I go to the email's Properties => Details, I click on Message Source and
    get this huge amount of data starting with:

    --Boundary_(ID_4RQkoLrkg5p876R5KArYGQ)
    Content-type: application/ms-tnef; name=winmail.dat
    Content-transfer-encoding: base64
    Content-disposition: attachment; filename=winmail.dat
    ....
    ....

    Why did the data not come across as an attachment and is there a way to
    somehow make the data a real attachment?

    Thanks,
    W
     
    Walter Cohen, Jan 4, 2008
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  2. Walter Cohen

    Guest Guest

    Sounds like you don't have a decoder for base64 installed, so Windows
    Mail can't decode it and make it an attachment. Sorry, I'm not aware of
    where to get one.
     
    Guest, Jan 4, 2008
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  3. The mail was sent from Outlook, using Outlook's RTF format. Outlook is the
    only program I know or that can decoder that format. Ask the sender to
    please use plain text when sending to people who do not have Outlook.
     
    Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM, Jan 4, 2008
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  4. As Frank says, this email was sent from Office Outlook in Rich Text Format.
    The ONLY program able to read RTF formatting is Outlook, ALL other email
    clients will either get a "Winmail.dat" attachment that can't be opened, or
    no attachment at all. The fix is to NOT use RTF and use either HTML or
    Plain Text as the default message format.

    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=287720
    OL2002: Attachments Are Not Visible to Some Recipients When You Use TNEF
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=290809
    OL2002: How Message Formats Affect Internet Mail
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=197064
    OL2000: (CW) Winmail.dat Attachments Included in Received Messages
    http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=224817
    OL2000: Transport Neutral Encapsulation Format (TNEF) Basics

    Decoder programs to read a WINMAIL.DAT file are here:

    http://www.slipstick.com/addins/decoders.htm
    Decoder Tools

    Hal
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    Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I], Jan 4, 2008
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  5. Walter Cohen

    Walter Cohen Guest

    Thanks.
    The sender said he zipped it before sending (which doesn't sound right
    according to what you guys have just said).
    The sender has since just sent as-is (non-zipped) and it did come across as
    an attachment and readable.

    W
     
    Walter Cohen, Jan 4, 2008
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  6. It's still an attachment and Outlook screws up any attachment when using its
    RTF format.
     
    Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM, Jan 5, 2008
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  7. Walter Cohen

    Walter Cohen Guest

    Ok, thanks Frank!
     
    Walter Cohen, Jan 5, 2008
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