everyone loves it - I got a pat on the back too!!

Discussion in 'Windows Small Business Server' started by Matthew Smith, Feb 4, 2005.

  1. Our external Sales people were driving me mad with problem after problem
    with their notebooks
    CEO asked me to look for a solution
    He hates computers cos he can never find thing

    I looked for a VPN info


    We gave this a try - (the FREE trial made it a no Brainer)

    and everyone like it - even the CEO

    I even got a £ 1000 Bonus and a 5% salary rise too !
    Matthew Smith, Feb 4, 2005
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  2. Matthew Smith

    HHarvey Guest

    Is this spam?
    HHarvey, Feb 4, 2005
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  3. NO - you don't even have to look if you are not interested.
    Please DON'T.... and accept my applogies if I've spammed you.

    Its Novell - so I bet 99% won't even consider it
    (PS: Works with AD on Window Server)

    We did and we love it - just thought there may be people here with OPEN
    or even those that need a SOLUTION to Notebook backup / data access

    We paid a lot money to a SBS VPN specialist using Vigor VPN Routers
    (our Linksys Router was't good enough!!!)

    Eventually - I got the VPN to work but users found it too slow...
    As some of our Powerpoint Presentations are 70Mb (with Graphics)
    Even Word docs can be several megabytes.

    VPN was just too slow
    Terminal Server means adding yet ANOTHER Server (17 people with Sale Reps
    and "Partners")
    Matthew Smith, Feb 4, 2005
  4. Matthew Smith

    HHarvey Guest

    Sounds like spam. Are you a Novell sales rep? This is a Windows Server forum.
    Had you been talking a SBS and Novell solution my mind whould have been open
    because I use and support Windows systems. not that I have anything against
    Novell but I was expecting to see Windows information here. Not a Novell
    sales pitch. Are there no Novell forums
    HHarvey, Feb 5, 2005
  5. Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP], Feb 5, 2005
  6. Matthew Smith

    DavidB Guest

    Ok in the first post he didn't mention SBS2003 or SBS or Windows

    Which bit didn't you understand

    From the second post
    Actually it does - I support several clients with mix of both Netware 6.5
    and Windows 2003
    (I don't get involved in the Netware stuff unless I'm asked to)

    and I didn't realise the iFolder server can be installed on a Microsoft
    Windows Server
    This could be useful since my clients are generally SBS2003 and VPN is a
    pain to setup
    and users always complain how slow it is.

    DavidB, Feb 5, 2005
  7. Actually Susan,

    I recently chased up the Novell SBS offer, it's quite a nice system, cost me
    $65 for the media to throw together a 5 user system because I told both
    Novell and a local reseller that I wasn't interested in their services, I
    wanted to do an experiment which started with a blank HDD and a set of CD's.

    If I was to compare it to an MS SBS install I would suggest there are points
    during the process where familiarity would be helpful, no matter which
    system you were dealing with. (I plan on doing my 2nd Novell SBS install
    shortly, I might even get it right the third time.)
    SuperGumby [SBS MVP], Feb 5, 2005
  8. Matthew Smith

    DavidB Guest

    Don't worry people that pay you wages (Microsoft - I suspect!!!) will have
    seen you defending the MS turf.

    I can't see Novell denting MS's sales.

    I suspect these posts are more likely to be fustrated Windows server users
    who discovered an alternative....
    specially if they've found things like rising Licensing costs or lack of
    flexibility (where they install bits of the SBS bundle)

    Good for them. Personally, I like to hear such stories.

    My only gripe is haveing put in an extra box for Terminal Server - this is a
    pure invention for Licensing as SBS2000 manages it!
    Anyway clients have to bear the cost - not me!

    This iFolder thingy looks very, very cool - it works too.
    I will follow it up for my own use.
    DavidB, Feb 5, 2005
  9. David, just want to clarify one thing.

    You can't work for MS and also be an MVP. It's a mutually exclusive sort of
    SuperGumby [SBS MVP], Feb 5, 2005
  10. Matthew Smith

    Andrew H Guest

    This isn't a Novell vs MS thing - it's a Novell utility that Matthew
    believes works fine in an SBS environment, so what's wrong with recommending
    it in this environment ?
    Andrew H, Feb 5, 2005
  11. Matthew Smith

    HHarvey Guest

    iIt was more in the way it was presented. He just droped a link (try that in
    a Novell fourm and see how well it goes over)I have no problems with other
    software products. I asked if it was spam and the next post stated that I was
    not open minded enought to consider Novell. Had he just said no it was not
    spam and gave more information about why he felt the product worked so well
    with SBS I would have found he post more useful for myself. I did not
    consider this Novell vs MS thing I just asked if it was spam and Matthew's
    second post went on the defensive. So where are the opions as to why this
    product is more useful then the MS VPN solution. That would interest me more
    then a link to the products site because the site is a marketing tool and
    others opions tend to be more informative
    HHarvey, Feb 5, 2005
  12. David... I'm not paid by Microsoft. I'm a partner in a CPA firm.

    Oh gawd David... don't start on the TS on a separate box thing... as a
    person who put a TS in my office there's no way I'd put TS on my domain
    controller with the number of insecurities I introduced on my box.

    I'm a volunteer here dude and I don't get paid by Microsoft.

    Unless an email address ends in @microsoft.com all the other folks out
    here are volunteers too... freely sharing in their information.

    www.msmvps.com/bradley... I pay for the domain for that too...
    www.sbslinks.com... pay for that out of my pocket too.

    sorry but you just rubbed me the wrong way with that assumption of yours.

    This is a peer sharing group dude for a Windows product.

    Excuse me if I like it and the community of SBS, you see a Microsoft
    certified partner tried to talk me out of it and I blew him off and
    installed it myself.
    Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP], Feb 6, 2005
  13. Still wouldn't want to keep track of the Novell/SuSe vulnerabilities as
    well as the Windows ones. I want monoculture because I can better
    control and patch it.
    Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP], Feb 6, 2005
  14. Honeslty the people that install just the "bits" are either looking for
    a cheap OS or they are not fully understanding the power of
    Exchange/Outlook and are missing the big picture of technology IMHO.

    [still not an employee of Microsoft... just a wacko admin who likes SBS]
    Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP], Feb 6, 2005
  15. What sort of machine did you run it on? I was used to older Novell
    servers having to be quite powerful, whereas my W2k3 SBS runs on an
    AMD XP2500.

    Andrew Hodgson, Feb 6, 2005
  16. my old dual PIII 850 with 1GB RAM and older ATA33 HDDs.

    as a network server I'd suggest performance was very similar to SBS2000 on
    the same hardware.

    I was surprised that the UI seemed quite sluggish, it's X and X on a fully
    loaded *nix on the same box is much more responsive. A few days later I had
    a chance to work on a system with a P4 ~3GHz and 320SCSI's, not sure how
    much RAM, I _think_ it was 512MB but it could have been 1GB. The UI was not
    much more responsive.

    Should your choice of NOS be governed by the responsiveness of the UI? Not
    on your Nellie.
    SuperGumby [SBS MVP], Feb 6, 2005
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