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Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by Glen Patterson, Mar 5, 2006.

  1. Glen Patterson

    Joachim Horn Guest

    Hi, mabster!
    I made dozens of system restores back to the point before that WGA tool
    has been installed. The former validation tool then worked fine again,
    but each time the update site didn't let me know whether critical
    updates were available until the KB892130 was installed again. Then:
    Freeze again. So I've been and am trapped in an endless loop, but give
    it (and the "validate now" link below) a try, anyway.
    Good luck!

    Joachim Horn, Mar 9, 2006
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  2. Glen Patterson

    Joachim Horn Guest

    Hello galdhrim:
    So ask your vendor, he will be eager to help you quickly! ;-)

    Sorry for the sarcasm, but except of Maurice N (MSCE) who really tries
    to help us, I think that MS is not very interested in this freezing

    Feeling alone

    Joachim Horn, Mar 9, 2006
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  3. Glen Patterson

    xpwrangler Guest

    I'd just like to add my name to the list of people suffering from this
    problem...the odd thing is there is no error code or on reboot no "system has
    recovered..." message. I await a microsoft fix....
    xpwrangler, Mar 9, 2006
  4. Glen Patterson

    Dwight Guest

    Having had trouble as I reported in an earlier post with AMD 64 and Foxconn
    Motherboard on a new system for a customer I was forced to build another
    system. My customer is gun shy after hearing about the Windows update problem
    so we chose to go with a new Intel based system. It went like a charm. No
    update issues at all. This smells like hardware as I mentioned earlier. It
    might be helpful to see posts from others with the same problem as to the
    hardware they are using so we can get a handle on possible driver issues.

    My successful install was an Intel 630 CPU Socket 775 with a Foxconn
    motherboard and ATI Sapphire X300SE 256 Graphics Card.
    Dwight, Mar 12, 2006
  5. Glen Patterson

    jonah Guest

    I built a identical Foxconn (AMD64) system in December except it was
    an PNY 6800GT VC - I could not even get it to boot sucessfully,
    hardware issues - most certainly, however this particular
    configuration has been sold and used extensively here and I am the
    only person to have had problems with it - maybe it was just a duff
    batch of processors in fact the MB got reused somewhere else after I
    exchanged it so it was definately the processor.

    How did you get a Sapphire VC they are pretty a myth here, much
    advertised, very cheap but never available in stock?

    jonah, Mar 12, 2006
  6. Glen Patterson

    Joachim Horn Guest

    Hello, Dwight,
    thank you for your interesting experience, though I am not happy to
    read it.

    I now installed the "Advantage" Tool on my XP Pro SP2 notebook ACER
    Travelmate 291 LCI (290D series) via the custom install button on the
    Windows Update site, and it worked smoothly, without that freezing
    The notebook comes with an Intel pro wireless 2200bg ("Centrino") and
    an ATI 9700 Radeon / 64 (mobile).

    For comparison, the freezing desktop has
    CPU: AMD Athlon64 3500+ S 939 512kB, 200 MHz FSB
    GPU: NVIDIA PCI-Expr. 6600GT. 128MB
    MoBo: MSI KBN SLI Platinum, S939 NVIDIA Nforce4, SLI, ATX.

    It would be interesting to know the type of CPU Glen Patterson has:

    Please don't let it be true that it's a hardware problem!
    I look forward to further information, if any. Thanks alot.
    Joachim Horn, Mar 12, 2006
  7. Glen Patterson

    mabster Guest

    My desktop (which freezes) is a very similar system to that one:

    AMD Athlon64 3500+
    NVidia PCI-E 6600GT (LeadTek)

    Mobo is a GigaByte though.

    Perhaps it's CPU-related? Any Intel-CPU users out there with a freezing
    mabster, Mar 12, 2006
  8. Glen Patterson

    RobertFord Guest

    My hardware and still having the freeze problem:

    AMD Athlon 64 4000+
    NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Series GPU
    Gigabyte Socket 939 Nforce4 ATX Mainboard
    RobertFord, Mar 12, 2006
  9. Glen Patterson

    RobertFord Guest

    RobertFord, Mar 12, 2006
  10. Glen Patterson

    Joachim Horn Guest

    Thank you, Robert!
    Kindly keep the group here updated as well.

    Joachim Horn, Mar 12, 2006
  11. Glen Patterson

    Dwight Guest

    I would be interested in knowing if all these WGA freezing problems involve
    AMD64 as well. Please note that some of these also involve nVidia nForce
    chipsets. If there is an Intel CPU or non-nVidia nForce chipset problem out
    there it will help us to narrow it down.

    Today I will be building two Intel systems: A P4-630 @ 3GHz on a Foxconn MB
    with Intel 925 Chipset and a [email protected] 2.4GHz on a Foxconn MB with SiS661 chipset.
    If either of these exhibit a WGA problem I will start burning my XP disks and
    ask my customers if they will accept Linux.
    Dwight, Mar 12, 2006
  12. Robert,

    I notice a few users on the forum are trying to pin the blame on 3rd-party
    virus scanners. Thought I'd let you know that I am not running any virus
    scanner (yeah, I'm an idiot). I am running the Windows Defender beta, but I
    don't think that's the problem.

    Matt Hamilton, Mar 12, 2006
  13. Glen Patterson

    mabster Guest

    mabster, Mar 12, 2006
  14. Glen Patterson

    RobertFord Guest

    RobertFord, Mar 13, 2006
  15. Glen Patterson

    mabster Guest

    Ok, this sounds like it's getting closer.

    I have a GigaByte board just like the poster of that other thread.

    Any idea how to find and remove the nv4 raid driver? I'm not using a
    RAID array - I only have one system drive and one data drive.
    mabster, Mar 13, 2006
  16. Glen Patterson

    RobertFord Guest

    I have a gigabyte board as well.

    In add/remove programs under the NVIDIA Drivers I have the following options:

    - Remove all NVIDIA drivers, including Display
    - Remove all NVIDIA drivers, except Display
    - Remove only the following
    * NVIDIA Display Driver
    * NVIDIA Ethernet Driver Components
    * NVIDIA IDE Driver
    * NVIDID nForce PCI System Management Driver

    I'm not on a Raid setup either. Just one drive.
    RobertFord, Mar 13, 2006
  17. Glen Patterson

    mabster Guest

    Yep - I see that. Doesn't really look like any of those have much to do
    with RAID.

    In my Device Manager I see a "SCSI and RAID controllers" section, in
    which there is a "Silicon Image SiI SoftRaid 5 Controller" item. I
    clicked "Update Driver" in that guy's properties, and it installed a
    newer driver, but I'm still experiencing the Big Freeze(tm).

    mabster, Mar 13, 2006
  18. Glen Patterson

    Tolomus Guest

    Hello all you fellow sufferers...

    I'm glad to here that my PC is not the only one with this problem... I don't
    know about freezing, but... here goes.

    I just bought a new Mesh PC about 3 days ago, AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core,
    Windows XP Professional SP2, NVIDIA GeForce 6100.

    After setting up the hardware, I installed Norton Antivirus and Norton
    Firewall... then AOL. I tried to install some Windows Updates. They
    downloaded fine, yet, even after three hours they wouldn't install... the
    progress bar didn't move a milimeter. I tried to shut down, and again they
    tried to install 11 updates, without any success after a long time. I was
    forced to reboot, and, on the advice of a £1.00 per minute Mesh helpline,
    went back to factory settings, and started the whole installation of Windows
    again, yet have again run into the same problem.

    I have experienced no freezing, but it doesn't install any Update, nor can
    it install, for example, Java... again it just doesn't have any progress. And
    for some reason, clicking on "System" in the Control Panel takes literally 10
    minutes before it actually appears on screen...

    What is going on, or, how can this be fixed, or what should I do? I'm not
    bad at computers, but no expert either. Or is it a case of, sit tight, and
    wait for Microsoft to do something?

    Thanks in advance for reading this...

    Tolomus, Mar 13, 2006
  19. Hello all , another poor sucker with an AMD 64 3500 and nvidia 6600 vc , same
    symtoms as the rest of you running similar machines , just pray to god that
    microsoft can fix this as it is their F*** up that has effectively made my
    computer vulnerable to attack .Best I can say is that if anyone suffers a
    virus problem we should all club together and sue their asses .This is not
    acceptable from a company who makes such obscene profits as Microsoft .Good
    luck too all and hope anyone reading this reports in as we need numbers to
    make Microsoft sit up and take notice .

    Rant ended thankyou
    bikingviking 937, Mar 13, 2006
  20. Well, you can add me to the list of sufferers too. I have genuine Windows XP
    Pro and have had the same trouble since the Genuine Advantage (bit of the
    opposite for us) tool update. I am running AMD XP 3500+ and have Nvidia
    NForce 4 M/B and Nvidia 6600GT grafix.

    My Dell laptop (XP Home/Intel chippery) took the update fine and is OK.

    Hope MS can get this fixed soon.


    Martyn Atkins, Mar 13, 2006
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