File Sharing with an XP laptop and Vista laptop on the same networ

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by Daniel Ostro, Apr 24, 2009.

  1. Daniel Ostro

    Daniel Ostro Guest

    I have 2 laptops, both connected wirelessly to a Linksys router and both
    connected to the internet using the same network SSID. However, even though
    they are on the same workgroup (MSHOME) and file and printer sharing is
    enabled on both, I cannot access the other computer from either laptop.
    So in the "my workgroup computers" on the XP laptop, I see the other one,
    but when I try to click on it to access the shared folders, it says it can't
    access it and that I may not have permission to access it.
    On the Vista laptop, when I view the full map of my network, I see the XP
    laptop, but I can't click on it to access the shared folders on that laptop.
    I see they are both connected to the router, and the router to the internet,
    but I can't access the other computer!
    Is there anything I can do?
    I did have file and printer sharing working about a month ago, and this was
    before I installed updates for Windows on the Vista computer...that may be
    the issue.

    Thank you very much for the help!
     
    Daniel Ostro, Apr 24, 2009
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    Malke Guest

    I don't know what changed, but here is my normal troubleshooting
    information. Take what you need.

    *****
    Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
    Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
    and folders:

    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

    For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
    caveat in Item A below).

    Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
    by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
    firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
    built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
    identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
    to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

    A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
    traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
    Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
    XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
    will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
    third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own
    firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I
    usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
    192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
    subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for
    how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall.
    DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.

    B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
    is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

    C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
    need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
    assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
    need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
    PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
    to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
    can do this:

    XP - Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
    http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

    Vista - Start Orb>Search box>type: netplwiz [enter]
    Click on Continue (or supply an administrator's password) when prompted by
    UAC

    Uncheck the option "Users must enter a user name and password to use this
    computer". Select a user account to automatically log on by clicking on the
    desired account to highlight it and then hit OK. Enter the correct password
    for that user account (if there is one) when prompted. Leave it blank if
    there is no password (null).

    D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
    Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

    E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
    directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
    directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
    See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
    *****

    Malke
     
    Malke, Apr 24, 2009
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  3. Daniel Ostro

    Daniel Ostro Guest

    Does Symantec Antivirus have it's own firewall? Do I have to change any
    settings?

     
    Daniel Ostro, Apr 24, 2009
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    Malke Guest

    The versions I've seen do, yes. Sometimes it's called "Internet Worm
    Protection". And yes, of course you need to configure it to allow LAN
    traffic. And you need to make sure you only have one firewall running. I
    can't say whether you need to change settings because I don't know how you
    have things set now. I can't answer any questions about configuring Norton
    products because I don't support them and I won't install them for clients.

    I recommend either NOD32 (commercial) or Avast (free) antivirus programs and
    the built-in Windows Firewall for most people.

    Malke
     
    Malke, Apr 24, 2009
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  5. Daniel Ostro

    Daniel Ostro Guest

    Thank you.
    I am also having an issue because I can't ping my Vista laptop when I try on
    my XP laptop.
    How can I fix this and why does this happen?
     
    Daniel Ostro, Apr 24, 2009
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  6. Daniel Ostro

    Malke Guest

    Fix the network file/printer sharing issue and properly configure your
    firewalls.

    Malke
     
    Malke, Apr 24, 2009
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  7. Daniel Ostro

    Malke Guest

    Thank you very much for taking the time to share your solution. Your
    feedback is appreciated.

    Malke
     
    Malke, May 25, 2009
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