Free Defragger

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by news.microsoft.com, Oct 16, 2008.

  1. Can someone recommend a good FREE defragger that shows the process as it did
    in W98 and XP? I can't stand having no damn idea how long it will take when
    I have other things to do. Why the hell was it changed so no one has a clue
    how fragmented the drive is or how long it will take?
     
    news.microsoft.com, Oct 16, 2008
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  2. Try this one...

    http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag

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    Robert Maskill, Oct 16, 2008
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    Larry Guest

    This one is a good one. Optimizes as well as defrags.
    http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/

    Larry


    Can someone recommend a good FREE defragger that shows the process as it did
    in W98 and XP? I can't stand having no damn idea how long it will take when
    I have other things to do. Why the hell was it changed so no one has a clue
    how fragmented the drive is or how long it will take?
     
    Larry, Oct 16, 2008
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  4. The whole idea behind the Vista defragmenter is it works in the background
    and you ***don't*** have to be concerned about it. And I see no reason why
    you can not keep working with your customers. The Vista defragmenter will
    not prevent you from doing so.

    Years ago there was NO defragmenter in Windows and people did not have this
    preoccupation with watching blocks move around.

    You will get no better performance out of your computer by using a 3rd party
    defragmenter than you will by allowing the Vista defragmenter to do its
    thing!

    Chill a bit and just use your computer.
     
    Richard Urban, Oct 16, 2008
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  5. I can't say I disagree with the above, I do my main business machine
    once a month overnight and I must admit I rarely can tell much if any
    difference in the perceived performance before and after
     
    Robert Maskill, Oct 16, 2008
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    Rick Rogers Guest

    Hi,

    Just to add what others have said, defrag in Vista is an ongoing process. It
    doesn't end, but rather constantly works to keep the system in top shape. It
    runs as a low priority task so as not to interfere with the system usage. If
    you use a third party program and let it run complete, then first you aren't
    using the system for what you bought it for, and second the minute you begin
    using it you will be re-fragmenting the system until you decide to manually
    run it again.
     
    Rick Rogers, Oct 16, 2008
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  7. You're so busy using your computer that you have time to watch the nice
    visual feedback while it defrags for 5-10 minutes. I guess you aren't
    **really** using your computer when it is on!

    Which is it - you have time to watch - and therefore are not really using
    your computer OR you are using your computer and you allow the Vista defrag
    to do its thing whenever?
     
    Richard Urban, Oct 16, 2008
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  8. The Vista disk defragmenter works in the background to save you the trouble
    of watching it defragment. However, if you really want to see what is going
    on Auslogic Disk Defrag is probably one of the better disk defragmenters.

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  9. Google Auslogics.

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    The poster formerly known as 'The Poster Formerly , Oct 16, 2008
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    +Bob+ Guest

    Except it doesn't work all that well. There are articles written on
    the subject. FWIW, they've been telling us we didn't have to defrag
    since NT/NTFS and it hasn't been true.
    Actually, we used one from Norton. As for seeing little blocks moving
    around... I don't really need that, but some sort of status before
    starting and a reasonable display of progress is worthwhile. Vista
    give you the dumbed down display instead "this will take from several
    minutes to several hours". Nice.
    Well, do some research on that point. Or run the manual defrag in
    Vista... let me know how long it has to run to defrag a drive that
    should not need defragging if the background process is really
    working.
    Some of us like to squeeze what performance we can out of this bloated
    OS.
     
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  11. So, now you say you are defragging with a 3rd party tool "while" you are
    working with your customers. Dang - you must have found one that uses less
    resources than the one in Vista, which only works when the computer is idle.
    And you say that the one in Vista prevents you from working with your
    customers.

    Care to try again! Your house of cards is collapsing around your ears. (-:
     
    Richard Urban, Oct 17, 2008
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  12. No, you won't see much of a difference if you do regularly and
    frequently defrag the hard drive, because you're maintaining the file
    system in optimum condition. This is a good thing. If you want to
    actually see a noticeable difference, wait several months between defrags.


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    Bruce Chambers, Oct 17, 2008
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  13. There's a new defragger and I'm using it on my XP notebook. FREE
    "Diskeeper" type called Smart Defrag. Don't know if it will do the
    nasty that Diskeeper protects against, but it's worth a try. Works in
    the background OR manually, will "optimize" file placement AND if you
    like to watch, you can see all those pretty little squares and also
    watch the progress bar.

    http://www.download.com/Smart-Defrag/3000-2094_4-10759533.html
     
    Paul Montgomery, Oct 17, 2008
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    Frank Guest

    You really are stupid aren't you!...LOL!
     
    Frank, Oct 17, 2008
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  15. Amen. I couldn't care less about blocks moving around. What I want to get
    was some idea how bad the HD is fragmented and about how long it would take
    to run. That was farly easy looking at "the blocks," or in XP, the lines.
    The Vista defragger gives no idea how bad the drive is or if it even needs
    defragging. I can run it 10 minutes a defrag and it'll run another 30 mins
    supposedly defragging the recently defragged drive. What crap!
     
    news.microsoft.com, Oct 17, 2008
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  16. You got that right. And I'm stuck with this Vista machine for at least 4
    years. Many of us will be forced to deal with Vista until our Co. buys new
    PCs. Home users also. Not everyone can replace a PC in weeks or months of
    buying one.
     
    news.microsoft.com, Oct 17, 2008
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  17. If it's working in the background all the time... why do you run it
    overnight if it's already running? I don't understand?!?!?!
     
    news.microsoft.com, Oct 17, 2008
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  19. I didn't see anyone claim to sit and watch the "nice
    visual feedback"... did you?
    Are you hallucinating? I saw no posters claiming they have time to sit and
    watch your so called "nice
    visual feedback"... did you? Why did MS "fix" what wasn't broken?
     
    news.microsoft.com, Oct 17, 2008
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  20. Ok, I downloaded this one but it still nothing like what was on W98 or WXP.
    As for the Vista defragger.... how is it running in the background when I
    have turn it on manually? How do I even know the disk needs defragmenting?
     
    news.microsoft.com, Oct 17, 2008
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