Games missing from game explorer after moving folder

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Games' started by Defmetal, Apr 13, 2008.

  1. Defmetal

    Defmetal Guest

    I am moving a lot of my games out of the Program Files folder into C:\Games
    so that UAC doesn't ask permission to play most of my games anymore.

    The problem is that, after I move the game folder, even though the game
    plays perfectly, it disappears from the Game Explorer and I can't seem to get
    it added back.

    The specific game i'm trying with is Lord of the Rings Online.
    (I moved World of Warcraft and it fixed itself instantly)

    Everquest 1 also disappeared and no matter what I do I can't seem to get it
    back in the game explorer other than dragging in the exectuable.

    Is there a way to get the official Game Explorer icon back for Lord of the
    Rings Online with the full game rating and ESRB rating and all after moving
    the folder?


    I've been googling and searching and can't find anything.
     
    Defmetal, Apr 13, 2008
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  2. Defmetal

    Andy [YaYa] Guest

    Open Games Explorer
    Click Options above the icons
    Click Unhide Games
    Click OK

    might work, otherwise, Windows isn't designed to have files moved around,
    it's great you got some games to work ok, but you're probably just screwed
    on other things.

    Instead of moving files around, why not just Disable User Account Control
    from the User Accounts control panel?

    UAC shouldn't come up when you run a game, only when you install it.

    sounds like system problems, and moving programs around your HD is probably
    just makin it worse.
     
    Andy [YaYa], Apr 14, 2008
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  3. Defmetal

    Defmetal Guest

    MMORPGs (massively multiplayer online RPGs) require admin privs to run,
    because they often update patch data.

    Unfortunately for certain games, this causes a problem because you can't run
    a game as admin from the Game Explorer by right clicking on it. Some games
    were designed knowing about UAC, and have made workarounds. Older games
    require you to go to properties and hit run as admin, and then require you to
    click accept to play the game or patch it. Such as Vanguard or Final Fantasy
    XI.

    This however, does not happen if you have the game out of Program Files, and
    in a folder such as C:\games (i found this out from WoW customer support when
    the game wouldn't patch when executed from the Game Explorer)
     
    Defmetal, Apr 14, 2008
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  4. Defmetal

    r2rX Guest

    Windows would operate alot smoother if UAC is disabled. If you have an
    adequate security solution installed on your comp, then you don't need
    UAC on....or Windows Defender for that matter.

    r2rX :)
     
    r2rX, Apr 15, 2008
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  5. Defmetal

    Andy [YaYa] Guest

    4 MMOs that I run, Guild Wars, The Sims Online (don't laugh), LotrO, and
    EQ1 all correctly elevate Vista if they need to patch. So they do NOT
    require manual elevation (Run as admin...).

    Well that's not totally true, you have to patch the game once as an
    admin so it can download the latest updater that is Vista compatible.
    Except for Guild Wars, that game is so simplistic in it's design that
    it's just simply the best MMO out there.
    Really? Vanguard doesn't elevate correctly? When I ran it I never had to
    run as admin on that one, it just does it when it needs to update. Odd.
    FFXI I don't doubt that you have to do something special with that one.
    Worst patching system EVER!

    As for elevating, I simply go to the game EXE (in program files, like c:
    \program files\sony\everquest\everquest.exe), change the properties so
    the program runs as Admin then when you run the game from Games Explorer
    it runs elevated.
     
    Andy [YaYa], Apr 15, 2008
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  6. Defmetal

    Andy [YaYa] Guest

    I like windows defender, the only thing I don't like is it doesn't auto-
    update you have to go through Windows Update.

    UAC has it's use, if you have kids espically. Parental Controls in Vista
    rock and I think you have to leave UAC on to use em. So there are
    circumstances where you have to have it.
     
    Andy [YaYa], Apr 15, 2008
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  7. Windows would operate alot smoother if UAC is disabled. If you have an
    Most security professionals would disagree.

    Firewalls help, but lots of applications list themselves as an exception
    which opens up the application to unsoliticed traffic. Virus scanners on
    average find less than 20% of currently active viruses the first few days of
    release, and is only up to about 50% by the time the virus is a month old.
    Now, you really should use a personal firewall, virus scanner, and e-mail
    protection, but it's like a flu shot, it often works but not 100% of the
    time.

    There are things built into Windows Vista that are not part of UAC that
    helps, particularly around the security permissions for the background
    services. There's also been tons of automatic code review done and thousands
    of fixes made. Again, this all helps.

    Computer security is about 'defense in depth'. If someone gets past the
    Firewall (easy for say a peer-to-peer game that lists itself as an exception
    on the Firewall), gets past your virus & spyware scanner (easy by just
    targeting a well-known network-facing application, like say a multiplayer
    game), and finds a vulnerability, if that application is running with full
    administrator rights your machine can be owned. In fact, if you ever do find
    a virus or rootkit, the only way you can be sure you have removed it is to
    flatten your machine and not move any of the data over.

    If on the other hand, you have UAC enabled and the application that is
    hacked was running as Standard User, you can know that it won't have
    infected the system files. It's much harder to create a rootkit without
    admin rights.
     
    Chuck Walbourn [MSFT], Apr 15, 2008
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  8. Defmetal

    Andy [YaYa] Guest

    Well, i'm not a security professional, though I know a bit about
    security. Like how not to keep personal data on a computer that has
    Internet access.

    Everything else, feel free to take, I could care less if you end up with
    a HD full of porn you can download from anywhere.

    What do security professionals say when asked, "Which OS do you trust
    the most with data security?"

    I'd wager Vista isn't at the top of that list.

    Also how many users, when presented with a UAC, just click continue,
    even if they don't know why they are getting that message? It's nice to
    get a heads-up, but that doesn't stop people from clicking through all
    the time.

    I forget if UAC says anything other than "Soandso app is trying to
    access system files".

    Considering how many times I see that message you'd think I'd have it
    memorized.
     
    Andy [YaYa], Apr 17, 2008
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  9. Defmetal

    r2rX Guest

    UAC and Windows Defender are good ideas, but they're not executed so
    well. And considering that alot of "Internet Security" solutions
    (whether McAfee, Norton, ESET, Kaspersky etc) all have the same/similar
    functionality, why not have that instead?

    r2rX :)
     
    r2rX, Apr 18, 2008
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  10. Defmetal

    Andy [YaYa] Guest

    waste of cpu cycles? I'd rather just not run virusus on my system. Also not
    nice to bunch McAfee with Kaspersky, most people will tell you one is not
    at all like the other.

    Kaspersky
    Norton (2008, not <2007)
    ESET
    McAfee

    in that order.
     
    Andy [YaYa], Apr 18, 2008
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