Gateway FMC-901 migration to MCE 2005 help needed

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Mike Wann, Feb 3, 2005.

  1. Mike Wann

    Mike Wann Guest

    Hi,

    I have a copy of the MCE 2005 now and have gone through the installation
    process and am getting hung up on Live TV. It seems that this is one of the
    many problems I will have to tackle to get it working..... Is there any
    place online (or on the discussion group) that provides a step by step to get
    MCE 2005 working on the FMC-901?

    Much Appreciated.
     
    Mike Wann, Feb 3, 2005
    #1
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  2. Mike Wann

    Curious Guest

    I assume that you located and installed the MCE drivers for you TV tuner and
    that you have installed an MCE 2005 supported DVD decoder such as NVIDIA
    DVD decoder. If not then after you do do that than be ready to state what
    problems you are still having. There are people who monitor this newsgroup
    who will be better able to support you once they know you have done this and
    that you have installed the latest MCE compatible drivers for your Video
    graphics card.

    "Mike Wann" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi,
    >
    > I have a copy of the MCE 2005 now and have gone through the installation
    > process and am getting hung up on Live TV. It seems that this is one of
    > the
    > many problems I will have to tackle to get it working..... Is there any
    > place online (or on the discussion group) that provides a step by step to
    > get
    > MCE 2005 working on the FMC-901?
    >
    > Much Appreciated.
     
    Curious, Feb 3, 2005
    #2
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  3. Mike Wann

    Mike Wann Guest

    I did a fresh install of MCE 2005, and loaded up the drivers from the Gateway
    recovery CD.

    I am getting the Live TV error when it freezes on me. It sounds like I need
    the Nvidia DVD decoder.

    Is there anything else I should do afterwards?

    Thanks,

    Mike

    "Curious" wrote:

    > I assume that you located and installed the MCE drivers for you TV tuner and
    > that you have installed an MCE 2005 supported DVD decoder such as NVIDIA
    > DVD decoder. If not then after you do do that than be ready to state what
    > problems you are still having. There are people who monitor this newsgroup
    > who will be better able to support you once they know you have done this and
    > that you have installed the latest MCE compatible drivers for your Video
    > graphics card.
    >
    > "Mike Wann" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    > > Hi,
    > >
    > > I have a copy of the MCE 2005 now and have gone through the installation
    > > process and am getting hung up on Live TV. It seems that this is one of
    > > the
    > > many problems I will have to tackle to get it working..... Is there any
    > > place online (or on the discussion group) that provides a step by step to
    > > get
    > > MCE 2005 working on the FMC-901?
    > >
    > > Much Appreciated.

    >
    >
    >
     
    Mike Wann, Feb 3, 2005
    #3
  4. I upgraded the 901x to MCE 2005. I required the network drivers from
    the system DVD, the sound card drivers from the DVD, and also installed
    Nero and Norton from the system disk.

    I then downloaded and installed the MCE video drivers from ati.com, and
    downloaded and installed the tuner drivers from shspvr.com.

    Personally, I then downloaded and installed the nVidia decoder, but you
    might try installing the DVD player on the system disk to see if that
    works for you.

    After that, it should all work.

    Pete

    Mike Wann wrote:
    > I did a fresh install of MCE 2005, and loaded up the drivers from the Gateway
    > recovery CD.
    >
    > I am getting the Live TV error when it freezes on me. It sounds like I need
    > the Nvidia DVD decoder.
    >
    > Is there anything else I should do afterwards?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Mike
    >
    > "Curious" wrote:
    >
    >
    >>I assume that you located and installed the MCE drivers for you TV tuner and
    >>that you have installed an MCE 2005 supported DVD decoder such as NVIDIA
    >>DVD decoder. If not then after you do do that than be ready to state what
    >>problems you are still having. There are people who monitor this newsgroup
    >>who will be better able to support you once they know you have done this and
    >>that you have installed the latest MCE compatible drivers for your Video
    >>graphics card.
    >>
    >>"Mike Wann" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>
    >>>Hi,
    >>>
    >>>I have a copy of the MCE 2005 now and have gone through the installation
    >>>process and am getting hung up on Live TV. It seems that this is one of
    >>>the
    >>>many problems I will have to tackle to get it working..... Is there any
    >>>place online (or on the discussion group) that provides a step by step to
    >>>get
    >>>MCE 2005 working on the FMC-901?
    >>>
    >>>Much Appreciated.

    >>
    >>
    >>
     
    Peter Near [MCE MVP], Feb 3, 2005
    #4
  5. I upgraded a reconditioned Gateway FMC-901 from MCE 2004 to MCE 2005 - a
    clean install from OEM CD's on a new hard drive. I used the Gateway recovery
    DVD after the MCE 2005 installation to install all the original Gateway
    drivers and then upgraded the Hauppauge TV tuner driver, the nVidia graphics
    card driver (have an FX 5200 so used the 71.84 driver) and the nVidia DVD
    decoder. All of that worked great and in fact was much better than my
    original setup since the newer nVidia drivers support HDTV modes from the DVI
    output, allowing me to use a DVI to HDMI adapter to drive my plasma TV at
    16:9 - very nice!

    But there is one problem: I haven't been able to get the front panel
    display to work. The Gateway MCE 2004 installation would show a clock
    normally and would show a recording light when recording TV, the picture
    filename when showing photos in Media Center, or the song title when playing
    music from Media Center. All I get now is a clock.

    I understand that the display is updated using the Media State Aggregation
    Service (MSAS) and normally that means that a DLL is registered as the Media
    State Sink. That DLL would have been provided by Gateway and would talk to
    the display through a driver also provided by Gateway. Gateway has been no
    help. I still have my original MCE 2004 disk and when I make it the boot
    disk the display still works. I have searched through the Windows registry
    but so far have not been able to isolate what DLL is registered as the MSAS
    sink.

    Anyone have any ideas on this one?

    Great forum by the way!

    "Peter Near [MCE MVP]" wrote:

    > I upgraded the 901x to MCE 2005. I required the network drivers from
    > the system DVD, the sound card drivers from the DVD, and also installed
    > Nero and Norton from the system disk.
    >
    > I then downloaded and installed the MCE video drivers from ati.com, and
    > downloaded and installed the tuner drivers from shspvr.com.
    >
    > Personally, I then downloaded and installed the nVidia decoder, but you
    > might try installing the DVD player on the system disk to see if that
    > works for you.
    >
    > After that, it should all work.
    >
    > Pete
    >
    > Mike Wann wrote:
    > > I did a fresh install of MCE 2005, and loaded up the drivers from the Gateway
    > > recovery CD.
    > >
    > > I am getting the Live TV error when it freezes on me. It sounds like I need
    > > the Nvidia DVD decoder.
    > >
    > > Is there anything else I should do afterwards?
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > >
    > > Mike
    > >
    > > "Curious" wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >>I assume that you located and installed the MCE drivers for you TV tuner and
    > >>that you have installed an MCE 2005 supported DVD decoder such as NVIDIA
    > >>DVD decoder. If not then after you do do that than be ready to state what
    > >>problems you are still having. There are people who monitor this newsgroup
    > >>who will be better able to support you once they know you have done this and
    > >>that you have installed the latest MCE compatible drivers for your Video
    > >>graphics card.
    > >>
    > >>"Mike Wann" <> wrote in message
    > >>news:...
    > >>
    > >>>Hi,
    > >>>
    > >>>I have a copy of the MCE 2005 now and have gone through the installation
    > >>>process and am getting hung up on Live TV. It seems that this is one of
    > >>>the
    > >>>many problems I will have to tackle to get it working..... Is there any
    > >>>place online (or on the discussion group) that provides a step by step to
    > >>>get
    > >>>MCE 2005 working on the FMC-901?
    > >>>
    > >>>Much Appreciated.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>

    >
     
    Turkey Dog Dave, May 14, 2005
    #5
  6. Mike Wann

    Noozer Guest

    > But there is one problem: I haven't been able to get the front panel
    > display to work. The Gateway MCE 2004 installation would show a clock
    > normally and would show a recording light when recording TV, the picture
    > filename when showing photos in Media Center, or the song title when

    playing
    > music from Media Center. All I get now is a clock.


    I've loaded the drivers from the MCE2004 CD and have the same issue. It
    would be nice to have the display work as intended.

    I've also noticed that the clock display just shuts off for no reason. I
    haven't been able to determine what causes it. A restart will bring it back.
     
    Noozer, May 15, 2005
    #6
  7. Have you installed the VFD application from the Gateway DVD?

    Run setup.exe from <DVD-Drive>\1Gateway\901\VFD Application

    --

    Michel Bordeleau
    MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    (remove oogle from email address to email me)




    "Turkey Dog Dave" <Turkey Dog > wrote in
    message news:...
    >I upgraded a reconditioned Gateway FMC-901 from MCE 2004 to MCE 2005 - a
    > clean install from OEM CD's on a new hard drive. I used the Gateway
    > recovery
    > DVD after the MCE 2005 installation to install all the original Gateway
    > drivers and then upgraded the Hauppauge TV tuner driver, the nVidia
    > graphics
    > card driver (have an FX 5200 so used the 71.84 driver) and the nVidia DVD
    > decoder. All of that worked great and in fact was much better than my
    > original setup since the newer nVidia drivers support HDTV modes from the
    > DVI
    > output, allowing me to use a DVI to HDMI adapter to drive my plasma TV at
    > 16:9 - very nice!
    >
    > But there is one problem: I haven't been able to get the front panel
    > display to work. The Gateway MCE 2004 installation would show a clock
    > normally and would show a recording light when recording TV, the picture
    > filename when showing photos in Media Center, or the song title when
    > playing
    > music from Media Center. All I get now is a clock.
    >
    > I understand that the display is updated using the Media State Aggregation
    > Service (MSAS) and normally that means that a DLL is registered as the
    > Media
    > State Sink. That DLL would have been provided by Gateway and would talk
    > to
    > the display through a driver also provided by Gateway. Gateway has been
    > no
    > help. I still have my original MCE 2004 disk and when I make it the boot
    > disk the display still works. I have searched through the Windows
    > registry
    > but so far have not been able to isolate what DLL is registered as the
    > MSAS
    > sink.
    >
    > Anyone have any ideas on this one?
    >
    > Great forum by the way!
    >
    > "Peter Near [MCE MVP]" wrote:
    >
    >> I upgraded the 901x to MCE 2005. I required the network drivers from
    >> the system DVD, the sound card drivers from the DVD, and also installed
    >> Nero and Norton from the system disk.
    >>
    >> I then downloaded and installed the MCE video drivers from ati.com, and
    >> downloaded and installed the tuner drivers from shspvr.com.
    >>
    >> Personally, I then downloaded and installed the nVidia decoder, but you
    >> might try installing the DVD player on the system disk to see if that
    >> works for you.
    >>
    >> After that, it should all work.
    >>
    >> Pete
    >>
    >> Mike Wann wrote:
    >> > I did a fresh install of MCE 2005, and loaded up the drivers from the
    >> > Gateway
    >> > recovery CD.
    >> >
    >> > I am getting the Live TV error when it freezes on me. It sounds like I
    >> > need
    >> > the Nvidia DVD decoder.
    >> >
    >> > Is there anything else I should do afterwards?
    >> >
    >> > Thanks,
    >> >
    >> > Mike
    >> >
    >> > "Curious" wrote:
    >> >
    >> >
    >> >>I assume that you located and installed the MCE drivers for you TV
    >> >>tuner and
    >> >>that you have installed an MCE 2005 supported DVD decoder such as
    >> >>NVIDIA
    >> >>DVD decoder. If not then after you do do that than be ready to state
    >> >>what
    >> >>problems you are still having. There are people who monitor this
    >> >>newsgroup
    >> >>who will be better able to support you once they know you have done
    >> >>this and
    >> >>that you have installed the latest MCE compatible drivers for your
    >> >>Video
    >> >>graphics card.
    >> >>
    >> >>"Mike Wann" <> wrote in message
    >> >>news:...
    >> >>
    >> >>>Hi,
    >> >>>
    >> >>>I have a copy of the MCE 2005 now and have gone through the
    >> >>>installation
    >> >>>process and am getting hung up on Live TV. It seems that this is one
    >> >>>of
    >> >>>the
    >> >>>many problems I will have to tackle to get it working..... Is there
    >> >>>any
    >> >>>place online (or on the discussion group) that provides a step by step
    >> >>>to
    >> >>>get
    >> >>>MCE 2005 working on the FMC-901?
    >> >>>
    >> >>>Much Appreciated.
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>

    >>
     
    Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP], May 15, 2005
    #7
  8. Michel,

    Thanks for the help. I did install the VFD Application before, but think I
    only did it through the Gateway recovery program. I just tried it like you
    suggest, but am currently recording TV so I will have to wait until morning
    to reboot and check it out.

    I recall thinking before that the VFD Application should be for the Vacuum
    Fluorescent Display so I made sure to do that installation, but in the .ini
    files on the Gateway disk it is called the Video Front Device. I then had
    the sinking feeling that it might be for the front panel video input jacks
    and not the display device. I haven't gotten around to trying to record from
    a VCR, so I don't know if the front video input works or not - there is a
    cable running from the front I/O board to the Hauppauge TV tuner that may be
    for that function. But that is another topic...

    "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" wrote:

    > Have you installed the VFD application from the Gateway DVD?
    >
    > Run setup.exe from <DVD-Drive>\1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >
    > --
    >
     
    Turkey Dog Dave, May 16, 2005
    #8
  9. The first time I ran the VFD Application setup from the DVD and rebooted
    there was no change - clock display and a red indicator of 'PC' when in Media
    Center and no indicator of pictures or songs (MCE 2004 install shows a blue
    indicator of 'MC' when in Media Center and also has indicators for My
    Pictures, etc and a volume indicator in addition to showing the file name for
    pictures and song titles).

    Next I tried to uninstall the VFD Application using Add/Remove Programs.
    That didn't work (system couldn't find some file) so I re-ran the setup and
    chose the Remove option. When I rebooted after that there was nothing on the
    display. This indicates to me that indeed the VFD Application is what is
    needed to get the display to work (Thanks Michel!).

    Sadly, a reinstall of the VFD Application just gets me bach where I started
    - a clock and red 'PC' indicator no matter what Media Center is doing.

    So, the VFD Application still isn't getting the Media State information.
    Has something changed in the MSAS interface since MCE 2004? Something
    different in how Media State Sinks register themselves? Any ideas?

    At least I now have a starting point to try to sort this out. But still no
    clue as to what the VFD Application setup installs. More fun to come...

    "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" wrote:

    > Have you installed the VFD application from the Gateway DVD?
    >
    > Run setup.exe from <DVD-Drive>\1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >
    > --
    >
    > Michel Bordeleau
    > MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    > (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >
    >
     
    Turkey Dog Dave, May 16, 2005
    #9
  10. Hi.

    I honestly don't recall ever seeing track information on my 901X... all I
    get by running the VFD Application setup is the time display... not much
    else... but I have been running the MSDN version of MCE2005 for a long time
    now... maybe when I was running Gateway's image the information showed, but
    I honestly don't recall ever seeing that. That would be cool though. :)

    --

    Michel Bordeleau
    MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    (remove oogle from email address to email me)


    "Turkey Dog Dave" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > The first time I ran the VFD Application setup from the DVD and rebooted
    > there was no change - clock display and a red indicator of 'PC' when in
    > Media
    > Center and no indicator of pictures or songs (MCE 2004 install shows a
    > blue
    > indicator of 'MC' when in Media Center and also has indicators for My
    > Pictures, etc and a volume indicator in addition to showing the file name
    > for
    > pictures and song titles).
    >
    > Next I tried to uninstall the VFD Application using Add/Remove Programs.
    > That didn't work (system couldn't find some file) so I re-ran the setup
    > and
    > chose the Remove option. When I rebooted after that there was nothing on
    > the
    > display. This indicates to me that indeed the VFD Application is what is
    > needed to get the display to work (Thanks Michel!).
    >
    > Sadly, a reinstall of the VFD Application just gets me bach where I
    > started
    > - a clock and red 'PC' indicator no matter what Media Center is doing.
    >
    > So, the VFD Application still isn't getting the Media State information.
    > Has something changed in the MSAS interface since MCE 2004? Something
    > different in how Media State Sinks register themselves? Any ideas?
    >
    > At least I now have a starting point to try to sort this out. But still
    > no
    > clue as to what the VFD Application setup installs. More fun to come...
    >
    > "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" wrote:
    >
    >> Have you installed the VFD application from the Gateway DVD?
    >>
    >> Run setup.exe from <DVD-Drive>\1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Michel Bordeleau
    >> MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    >> (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >>
    >>
     
    Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP], May 17, 2005
    #10
  11. You need to install the VFD driver, from its own folder, not the Gateway restore utility. Its in the:

    1Gateway\901\VFD Application

    folder on the DVD.

    --
    Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
    Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    http://www.dougknox.com
    --------------------------------
    Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    --------------------------------
    Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

    "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" <> wrote in message news:...
    > Hi.
    >
    > I honestly don't recall ever seeing track information on my 901X... all I
    > get by running the VFD Application setup is the time display... not much
    > else... but I have been running the MSDN version of MCE2005 for a long time
    > now... maybe when I was running Gateway's image the information showed, but
    > I honestly don't recall ever seeing that. That would be cool though. :)
    >
    > --
    >
    > Michel Bordeleau
    > MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    > (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >
    >
    > "Turkey Dog Dave" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> The first time I ran the VFD Application setup from the DVD and rebooted
    >> there was no change - clock display and a red indicator of 'PC' when in
    >> Media
    >> Center and no indicator of pictures or songs (MCE 2004 install shows a
    >> blue
    >> indicator of 'MC' when in Media Center and also has indicators for My
    >> Pictures, etc and a volume indicator in addition to showing the file name
    >> for
    >> pictures and song titles).
    >>
    >> Next I tried to uninstall the VFD Application using Add/Remove Programs.
    >> That didn't work (system couldn't find some file) so I re-ran the setup
    >> and
    >> chose the Remove option. When I rebooted after that there was nothing on
    >> the
    >> display. This indicates to me that indeed the VFD Application is what is
    >> needed to get the display to work (Thanks Michel!).
    >>
    >> Sadly, a reinstall of the VFD Application just gets me bach where I
    >> started
    >> - a clock and red 'PC' indicator no matter what Media Center is doing.
    >>
    >> So, the VFD Application still isn't getting the Media State information.
    >> Has something changed in the MSAS interface since MCE 2004? Something
    >> different in how Media State Sinks register themselves? Any ideas?
    >>
    >> At least I now have a starting point to try to sort this out. But still
    >> no
    >> clue as to what the VFD Application setup installs. More fun to come...
    >>
    >> "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" wrote:
    >>
    >>> Have you installed the VFD application from the Gateway DVD?
    >>>
    >>> Run setup.exe from <DVD-Drive>\1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> Michel Bordeleau
    >>> MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    >>> (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >
     
    Doug Knox MS-MVP, May 17, 2005
    #11
  12. Mike Wann

    Noozer Guest

    Are you sure that this installs the normal MCE2004 functionality when using
    MCE2005?


    "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <> wrote in message
    news:e02AK%...
    You need to install the VFD driver, from its own folder, not the Gateway
    restore utility. Its in the:

    1Gateway\901\VFD Application

    folder on the DVD.

    --
    Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
    Display\Security
    Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    http://www.dougknox.com
    --------------------------------
    Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    --------------------------------
    Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

    "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi.
    >
    > I honestly don't recall ever seeing track information on my 901X... all I
    > get by running the VFD Application setup is the time display... not much
    > else... but I have been running the MSDN version of MCE2005 for a long
    > time
    > now... maybe when I was running Gateway's image the information showed,
    > but
    > I honestly don't recall ever seeing that. That would be cool though. :)
    >
    > --
    >
    > Michel Bordeleau
    > MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    > (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >
    >
    > "Turkey Dog Dave" <> wrote in
    > message
    > news:...
    >> The first time I ran the VFD Application setup from the DVD and rebooted
    >> there was no change - clock display and a red indicator of 'PC' when in
    >> Media
    >> Center and no indicator of pictures or songs (MCE 2004 install shows a
    >> blue
    >> indicator of 'MC' when in Media Center and also has indicators for My
    >> Pictures, etc and a volume indicator in addition to showing the file name
    >> for
    >> pictures and song titles).
    >>
    >> Next I tried to uninstall the VFD Application using Add/Remove Programs.
    >> That didn't work (system couldn't find some file) so I re-ran the setup
    >> and
    >> chose the Remove option. When I rebooted after that there was nothing on
    >> the
    >> display. This indicates to me that indeed the VFD Application is what is
    >> needed to get the display to work (Thanks Michel!).
    >>
    >> Sadly, a reinstall of the VFD Application just gets me bach where I
    >> started
    >> - a clock and red 'PC' indicator no matter what Media Center is doing.
    >>
    >> So, the VFD Application still isn't getting the Media State information.
    >> Has something changed in the MSAS interface since MCE 2004? Something
    >> different in how Media State Sinks register themselves? Any ideas?
    >>
    >> At least I now have a starting point to try to sort this out. But still
    >> no
    >> clue as to what the VFD Application setup installs. More fun to come...
    >>
    >> "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" wrote:
    >>
    >>> Have you installed the VFD application from the Gateway DVD?
    >>>
    >>> Run setup.exe from <DVD-Drive>\1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> Michel Bordeleau
    >>> MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    >>> (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >
     
    Noozer, May 17, 2005
    #12
  13. Mike Wann

    Noozer Guest

    BTW...

    Does anyone know how the front display works on the 901's??? Does it use the
    non-existant parallel port or is it some oddball proprietary incarnation?

    "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <> wrote in message
    news:e02AK%...
    You need to install the VFD driver, from its own folder, not the Gateway
    restore utility. Its in the:

    1Gateway\901\VFD Application

    folder on the DVD.

    "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi.
    >
    > I honestly don't recall ever seeing track information on my 901X... all I
    > get by running the VFD Application setup is the time display... not much
    > else... but I have been running the MSDN version of MCE2005 for a long
    > time
    > now... maybe when I was running Gateway's image the information showed,
    > but
    > I honestly don't recall ever seeing that. That would be cool though. :)


    > "Turkey Dog Dave" <> wrote in
    > message
    > news:...
    >> The first time I ran the VFD Application setup from the DVD and rebooted
    >> there was no change - clock display and a red indicator of 'PC' when in
    >> Media
    >> Center and no indicator of pictures or songs (MCE 2004 install shows a
    >> blue
    >> indicator of 'MC' when in Media Center and also has indicators for My
    >> Pictures, etc and a volume indicator in addition to showing the file name
    >> for
    >> pictures and song titles).

    <snip>
     
    Noozer, May 17, 2005
    #13
  14. "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" wrote:

    > That would be cool though. :)
    >


    Yeah, but besides cool, the red recording indicator provided serious peace
    of mind that the HTPC was indeed recording without having to fire up the TV
    or switch from XBox, etc.

    It looks like the VFD installation loaded MCED.sys which was provided by the
    Wistron Corp. I had noticed before that the FileWriter.dll in the
    c:\Windows\ehome folder was also written by Wistron. Both circa Fall 2003.
    Isn't FileWriter.dll the sample application Microsoft provides for developing
    MSAS applications? It seems to be registered for ehmsas.exe to use, but I'm
    not sure yet...

    I'm glad to have a glimmer of hope again anyway - a faint path to follow is
    better than no path at all. I'm hoping this all comes in handy when I decide
    to build my own HTPC - the reconditioned Gateway was just too tempting to
    pass up, but they have lost my support.
     
    Turkey Dog Dave, May 17, 2005
    #14
  15. Yes, its working fine on my 901X, with MCE2005. And I believe its a proprietary piece of hardware.

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    "Noozer" <> wrote in message news:ilbie.1381249$6l.516408@pd7tw2no...
    > Are you sure that this installs the normal MCE2004 functionality when using
    > MCE2005?
    >
    >
    > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <> wrote in message
    > news:e02AK%...
    > You need to install the VFD driver, from its own folder, not the Gateway
    > restore utility. Its in the:
    >
    > 1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >
    > folder on the DVD.
    >
    > --
    > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
    > Display\Security
    > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    > http://www.dougknox.com
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    >
    > "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Hi.
    >>
    >> I honestly don't recall ever seeing track information on my 901X... all I
    >> get by running the VFD Application setup is the time display... not much
    >> else... but I have been running the MSDN version of MCE2005 for a long
    >> time
    >> now... maybe when I was running Gateway's image the information showed,
    >> but
    >> I honestly don't recall ever seeing that. That would be cool though. :)
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Michel Bordeleau
    >> MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    >> (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >>
    >>
    >> "Turkey Dog Dave" <> wrote in
    >> message
    >> news:...
    >>> The first time I ran the VFD Application setup from the DVD and rebooted
    >>> there was no change - clock display and a red indicator of 'PC' when in
    >>> Media
    >>> Center and no indicator of pictures or songs (MCE 2004 install shows a
    >>> blue
    >>> indicator of 'MC' when in Media Center and also has indicators for My
    >>> Pictures, etc and a volume indicator in addition to showing the file name
    >>> for
    >>> pictures and song titles).
    >>>
    >>> Next I tried to uninstall the VFD Application using Add/Remove Programs.
    >>> That didn't work (system couldn't find some file) so I re-ran the setup
    >>> and
    >>> chose the Remove option. When I rebooted after that there was nothing on
    >>> the
    >>> display. This indicates to me that indeed the VFD Application is what is
    >>> needed to get the display to work (Thanks Michel!).
    >>>
    >>> Sadly, a reinstall of the VFD Application just gets me bach where I
    >>> started
    >>> - a clock and red 'PC' indicator no matter what Media Center is doing.
    >>>
    >>> So, the VFD Application still isn't getting the Media State information.
    >>> Has something changed in the MSAS interface since MCE 2004? Something
    >>> different in how Media State Sinks register themselves? Any ideas?
    >>>
    >>> At least I now have a starting point to try to sort this out. But still
    >>> no
    >>> clue as to what the VFD Application setup installs. More fun to come...
    >>>
    >>> "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Have you installed the VFD application from the Gateway DVD?
    >>>>
    >>>> Run setup.exe from <DVD-Drive>\1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>>
    >>>> Michel Bordeleau
    >>>> MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    >>>> (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Doug Knox MS-MVP, May 17, 2005
    #15
  16. Hi Doug,

    I've honestly never seen this... and I always install the VFD Application
    from 1Gateway\901\VFD Application... all that seems to do for me is get the
    display to show the clock...at least that I've noticed... then again, the PC
    spent a long time on the floor under my desk so I can't say I was able to
    view the front display very easily.

    I've tried again last night with no success... but it's on a French MCE2005
    so maybe I can blame the language differences? :)

    Now I'm very curious... I'd love to get this working. I'll give it another
    whirl once I'm done doing some work in French MCE and I can re-load my
    English MCE image. Let's reduce variables. :)

    --

    Michel Bordeleau
    MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    (remove oogle from email address to email me)


    "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <> wrote in message
    news:e02AK%...
    You need to install the VFD driver, from its own folder, not the Gateway
    restore utility. Its in the:

    1Gateway\901\VFD Application

    folder on the DVD.

    --
    Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
    Display\Security
    Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    http://www.dougknox.com
    --------------------------------
    Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    --------------------------------
    Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

    "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Hi.
    >
    > I honestly don't recall ever seeing track information on my 901X... all I
    > get by running the VFD Application setup is the time display... not much
    > else... but I have been running the MSDN version of MCE2005 for a long
    > time
    > now... maybe when I was running Gateway's image the information showed,
    > but
    > I honestly don't recall ever seeing that. That would be cool though. :)
    >
    > --
    >
    > Michel Bordeleau
    > MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    > (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >
    >
    > "Turkey Dog Dave" <> wrote in
    > message
    > news:...
    >> The first time I ran the VFD Application setup from the DVD and rebooted
    >> there was no change - clock display and a red indicator of 'PC' when in
    >> Media
    >> Center and no indicator of pictures or songs (MCE 2004 install shows a
    >> blue
    >> indicator of 'MC' when in Media Center and also has indicators for My
    >> Pictures, etc and a volume indicator in addition to showing the file name
    >> for
    >> pictures and song titles).
    >>
    >> Next I tried to uninstall the VFD Application using Add/Remove Programs.
    >> That didn't work (system couldn't find some file) so I re-ran the setup
    >> and
    >> chose the Remove option. When I rebooted after that there was nothing on
    >> the
    >> display. This indicates to me that indeed the VFD Application is what is
    >> needed to get the display to work (Thanks Michel!).
    >>
    >> Sadly, a reinstall of the VFD Application just gets me bach where I
    >> started
    >> - a clock and red 'PC' indicator no matter what Media Center is doing.
    >>
    >> So, the VFD Application still isn't getting the Media State information.
    >> Has something changed in the MSAS interface since MCE 2004? Something
    >> different in how Media State Sinks register themselves? Any ideas?
    >>
    >> At least I now have a starting point to try to sort this out. But still
    >> no
    >> clue as to what the VFD Application setup installs. More fun to come...
    >>
    >> "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" wrote:
    >>
    >>> Have you installed the VFD application from the Gateway DVD?
    >>>
    >>> Run setup.exe from <DVD-Drive>\1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >>>
    >>> --
    >>>
    >>> Michel Bordeleau
    >>> MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    >>> (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >
     
    Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP], May 17, 2005
    #16
  17. Sorry, I missed the reference to the Track information. And I don't use the Gateway for playing audio CD's, so I'd never have seen it anyway.

    --
    Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart Display\Security
    Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    http://www.dougknox.com
    --------------------------------
    Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    --------------------------------
    Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

    "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" <> wrote in message news:...
    > Hi Doug,
    >
    > I've honestly never seen this... and I always install the VFD Application
    > from 1Gateway\901\VFD Application... all that seems to do for me is get the
    > display to show the clock...at least that I've noticed... then again, the PC
    > spent a long time on the floor under my desk so I can't say I was able to
    > view the front display very easily.
    >
    > I've tried again last night with no success... but it's on a French MCE2005
    > so maybe I can blame the language differences? :)
    >
    > Now I'm very curious... I'd love to get this working. I'll give it another
    > whirl once I'm done doing some work in French MCE and I can re-load my
    > English MCE image. Let's reduce variables. :)
    >
    > --
    >
    > Michel Bordeleau
    > MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    > (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >
    >
    > "Doug Knox MS-MVP" <> wrote in message
    > news:e02AK%...
    > You need to install the VFD driver, from its own folder, not the Gateway
    > restore utility. Its in the:
    >
    > 1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >
    > folder on the DVD.
    >
    > --
    > Doug Knox, MS-MVP Windows Media Center\Windows Powered Smart
    > Display\Security
    > Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    > http://www.dougknox.com
    > --------------------------------
    > Per user Group Policy Restrictions for XP Home and XP Pro
    > http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_securityconsole.htm
    > --------------------------------
    > Please reply only to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
    > Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.
    >
    > "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Hi.
    >>
    >> I honestly don't recall ever seeing track information on my 901X... all I
    >> get by running the VFD Application setup is the time display... not much
    >> else... but I have been running the MSDN version of MCE2005 for a long
    >> time
    >> now... maybe when I was running Gateway's image the information showed,
    >> but
    >> I honestly don't recall ever seeing that. That would be cool though. :)
    >>
    >> --
    >>
    >> Michel Bordeleau
    >> MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    >> (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >>
    >>
    >> "Turkey Dog Dave" <> wrote in
    >> message
    >> news:...
    >>> The first time I ran the VFD Application setup from the DVD and rebooted
    >>> there was no change - clock display and a red indicator of 'PC' when in
    >>> Media
    >>> Center and no indicator of pictures or songs (MCE 2004 install shows a
    >>> blue
    >>> indicator of 'MC' when in Media Center and also has indicators for My
    >>> Pictures, etc and a volume indicator in addition to showing the file name
    >>> for
    >>> pictures and song titles).
    >>>
    >>> Next I tried to uninstall the VFD Application using Add/Remove Programs.
    >>> That didn't work (system couldn't find some file) so I re-ran the setup
    >>> and
    >>> chose the Remove option. When I rebooted after that there was nothing on
    >>> the
    >>> display. This indicates to me that indeed the VFD Application is what is
    >>> needed to get the display to work (Thanks Michel!).
    >>>
    >>> Sadly, a reinstall of the VFD Application just gets me bach where I
    >>> started
    >>> - a clock and red 'PC' indicator no matter what Media Center is doing.
    >>>
    >>> So, the VFD Application still isn't getting the Media State information.
    >>> Has something changed in the MSAS interface since MCE 2004? Something
    >>> different in how Media State Sinks register themselves? Any ideas?
    >>>
    >>> At least I now have a starting point to try to sort this out. But still
    >>> no
    >>> clue as to what the VFD Application setup installs. More fun to come...
    >>>
    >>> "Michel Bordeleau [MCE-MVP]" wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Have you installed the VFD application from the Gateway DVD?
    >>>>
    >>>> Run setup.exe from <DVD-Drive>\1Gateway\901\VFD Application
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>>
    >>>> Michel Bordeleau
    >>>> MS-MVP - Windows XP Media Center Edition
    >>>> (remove oogle from email address to email me)
    >>>>
    >>>>

    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Doug Knox MS-MVP, May 18, 2005
    #17
  18. Mike Wann

    Noozer Guest

    > It looks like the VFD installation loaded MCED.sys which was provided by
    > the
    > Wistron Corp. I had noticed before that the FileWriter.dll in the
    > c:\Windows\ehome folder was also written by Wistron. Both circa Fall
    > 2003.
    > Isn't FileWriter.dll the sample application Microsoft provides for
    > developing
    > MSAS applications? It seems to be registered for ehmsas.exe to use, but
    > I'm
    > not sure yet...
    >
    > I'm glad to have a glimmer of hope again anyway - a faint path to follow
    > is
    > better than no path at all. I'm hoping this all comes in handy when I
    > decide
    > to build my own HTPC - the reconditioned Gateway was just too tempting to
    > pass up, but they have lost my support.


    For what it's worth, these are links to the VFD board and the header on the
    mainboard where it connects to...

    http://support.gateway.com/s/PC/901_Series/Shared/8007840/8007840mv.shtml

    http://support.gateway.com/s/pc/901_Series/2900091/2521073/2521073mvr19.shtml
     
    Noozer, May 18, 2005
    #18
  19. Its quite possible that MS changed something. If they did, they would have notified the OEM's.

    --
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    Win 95/98/Me/XP Tweaks and Fixes
    http://www.dougknox.com
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    --------------------------------
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    Unsolicited e-mail is not answered.

    "Carl D. Smith" <> wrote in message news:...
    > On Tue, 17 May 2005 19:04:18 -0400, "Doug Knox MS-MVP"
    > <> wrote:
    >
    >>Sorry, I missed the reference to the Track information. And I don't use the Gateway for playing audio CD's, so I'd never have seen it anyway.

    >
    > When operating properly with MCE2004, the VFD should show the
    > track names when playing CDs, time and chapter when playing a
    > DVD, and even show the filenames of pictures under My Pictures.
    >
    > I have it from a reliable source that Microsoft changed something
    > in the way MCE 2005 provides this information, and that's why the
    > VFD doesn't work the same under MCE 2005.
     
    Doug Knox MS-MVP, May 18, 2005
    #19
  20. "Doug Knox MS-MVP" wrote:

    > Its quite possible that MS changed something. If they did, they would have notified the OEM's.
    >


    I'm sad to hear that the interface may have changed - a little consistancy
    goes a long way. The MSAS documentation I have read indicated that it
    applied to MCE 2004 and 2005. I downloaded the Media Center SDK last night
    and built the MSAS example FileWriter.DLL but have yet to try to install and
    test it. In fact I'm am a bit unsure about that whole process - using
    regsrv32.exe to register the DLL seems straight forward, but I've read some
    posts (at the Green Button I think) that it wasn't that simple.

    But how hard can it be? :)
     
    Turkey Dog Dave, May 18, 2005
    #20
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