Geting terrible performance. System chugs on hard drive a full several minutes after GUI appears

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Peter Dickason, Jan 5, 2009.

  1. Got a new Vista laptop last year which was a terrible mistake. I have not
    been happy with it at all. My problem is the computer takes a full 10
    minutes to complete starting up. I assumed this was because it was short on
    memory and was paging like nuts. It only came with 1 gig. So I upgraded it
    to 4 gig but to my surprise, this did not make much of a difference. It
    still takes several minutes to finish starting up. So to track down the
    offending program, I disabled all non-microsoft services and all startup
    items. So now my bare bones system still takes several minutes to finsh
    chugging on the hard drive and get to a point where I can do anything. So
    it looks like Windows itself is the offending program. So my question here
    is what the heck is wrong with Vista that it takes so long to come up? It
    has always been my theory that the default shutdown option was changed to
    stand-by because of this 10 minute start-up but there has got to be
    something that can be done about it. Any input?

    Thanks
    Pete
     
    Peter Dickason, Jan 5, 2009
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  2. Vista does not generally take 10 minutes to start unless there is incorrect
    interaction between drivers and hardware or a hardware fault.. Have you ever
    had the machine checked professionally for hardware errors?

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    Mike Hall - MVP, Jan 5, 2009
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  3. All you have to do is google vista and slow startup and you will see that
    this is a common issue. It's not my machine. It's been like this out of
    the box which is the frustrating part to spend so much money on a system not
    up to par. I was hoping to get some advise about speeding it up instead of
    statements that it's my hardware. I've already made sure drivers were up to
    date and that there were no other errors. I did finally find what makes
    Vista slow. The Windows search, superfetch and readyboost. After disabling
    all of those, my system starts up and is usable in minutes which is more
    acceptable. I can live with a search taking the time when I search and have
    apps take a little longer to load rather than have poor performance at all
    other times.


    Pete
     
    Peter Dickason, Jan 6, 2009
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  4. Except that some systems have all of those enabled and still the machine
    boots up in less than 10 minutes.. mine for instance..


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    Mike Hall - MVP, Jan 6, 2009
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  5. Peter Dickason

    Ron Guest

    Pete,

    Vista is a real dog and a hog of an OS.

    Lets hope windows 7 gets it right!

    Cheers

    Ron
     
    Ron, Jan 6, 2009
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  6. Peter Dickason

    SIW2 Guest

    Vista Home Premium x64 starts up in less than 40 seconds

    If you're sure it's not a hardware problem - have you trie
    reinstalling the o/s

    SIW
     
    SIW2, Jan 6, 2009
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  7. Peter Dickason

    Mick Murphy Guest

    A lot of 3rd party software will start at startup be default, unless changed.
    Things like MSN messenger, skype, Quicktime, etc.

    And if you are using Norton, Trend or McAfee, that in itself is a problem.
     
    Mick Murphy, Jan 6, 2009
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  8. Yes I realize those A/V sotware's have evolved into a bunch of bloat which
    is why I use Avast. But it's not that. In my first post I decared that I
    have already tried turning of everything!

    I used to like Trend myself but it has gone by way of Norton and has become
    a hog as well.

    Pete
     
    Peter Dickason, Jan 6, 2009
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  9. So what do you recommend? This laptop has an AMD Turion64x2 chip with 4 gig
    of memory so I would have thought it would scream. I hate to spend $150 to
    upgrade to Vista 64 since I have to reason to go to 64 bit. I have no 64
    bit apps and I have no reason to go over 4 gig of memory. Nor could this
    laptop hold any more than 4 gig.

    thx
    Pete
     
    Peter Dickason, Jan 6, 2009
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  10. Thanks, no but I have thought about it. The only problem is I only have the
    Acer restore CD and not a clean Vista install CD so if it was something from
    Acer, I wouldn't gain anything with a reinstall. I've just been trying to
    clean up afterwards.

    Pete
     
    Peter Dickason, Jan 6, 2009
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  11. Peter Dickason

    Gordon Guest


    Please QUOTE the post you are replying to.

    http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
    http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

    Thank you.
     
    Gordon, Jan 6, 2009
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  12. Peter Dickason

    SIW2 Guest

    Hi Peter

    There may be something here that you haven't tried

    http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/131758-speed-up-computer-boot-time.htm

    I suspect it may need than a tweak or two. Changing to x64 probabl
    won't help

    Suppose you've tried the obvious things like memtest, chckdisk and th
    SFC command - this is a handy little tool

    http://www.vistax64.com/software-tools/183170-system-file-check-tool.htm

    Reinstall of the factory image may do the job, but yes you would b
    cleaning it up - this may be useful for tha

    'Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Uninstall Software, Remove Programs, Solv
    uninstall problems' (http://www.revouninstaller.com)

    What is taking so long ? Is it the at the rolling green bars, or doe
    it take a long time to get to the Welcome screen, or is it the Welcom
    screen itself that hangs for a long time

    SIW
     
    SIW2, Jan 6, 2009
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  13. All you have to do is google vista and slow startup and you will see that
    Not to the extent you're getting it, it isn't.
    Of course it is. Otherwise we'd all be suffering ten minute startups. Mine
    starts in just under one minute. It's either your hardware, or something
    wrong with the OS installation. But it definitely isn't a generic problem
    with Vista.
    Well, QED. But seriously, I strongly recommend you take this up with the
    supplier. You are quite right to say that it is completely unacceptable.
    The more you mess with it yourself, the more excuses you are giving them to
    argue.

    I'm sorry if this isn't the answer you wanted, but really - it's the
    vendor's problem.

    SteveT
     
    Steve Thackery, Jan 6, 2009
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  14. Peter Dickason

    Ian D Guest

    I know this is getting off the thread, but Norton 2009 is lean and
    mean. All the bloat is gone. I'm using NIS 2009, and it only
    uses one service and 3 small processes totalling 10MB of memory
    usage. There are no more of those delays on startup, as NIS starts
    almost instantly after the desktop appears. Most updates are now
    done in 10 seconds. It is getting very good user reviews.
     
    Ian D, Jan 6, 2009
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  15. That's exactly what I was looking for. Some direction in figuring out what
    the problem is. I'm a server man so I know my way around a computer but
    Vista is new to me. I was hoping to get information what logs I can look at
    since MS thinks Vista people arent capable of using Bootvis.
    It takes a long time after it reaches the desktop. Up to 10 minutes of hard
    drive thrashing during which time I can't do anything. And that's with no
    startup items and all non-microsoft services disabled. I found that turning
    off search and a couple of other non-essential services calmed it down. I'm
    also looking at diskeeper so I'll see what that that does for me.

    Thanks again for the help.

    Pete
     
    Peter Dickason, Jan 7, 2009
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  16. Peter Dickason

    kzzz Guest

    Or you can try start up in safe mode, see whether the problem exist. I
    it is solved, then there must be something wrong with your driver
     
    kzzz, Jan 8, 2009
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  17. Hmmm...Maybe I'll take another look at NIS.
     
    Peter Dickason, Jan 10, 2009
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