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Discussion in 'Windows Vista Hardware' started by Jon, Apr 25, 2007.

  1. Jon

    Jon Guest

    How much more hard drive space can I add?

    Thanks Jon
     
    Jon, Apr 25, 2007
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  2. That's an awful lot of information to loose when 1 hard drive goes bad. (-:

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    Richard Urban, Apr 25, 2007
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  3. They would take some backing up too, eh.. I still use 80's :)


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    Mike Hall
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    Mike Hall MVP, Apr 25, 2007
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  4. Hi, Jon.

    How many power connectors and data connectors does your computer have? Any
    USB ports, where one or many USB external drives might be connected? You
    can keep adding hard drives until you run out of connectors - or money!
    Vista can handle as many hard drives as you can connect, I suspect.

    Remember that maximum storage capacity is determined by the File System
    (FATx or NTFS), not by the Operating System (MS-DOS, Windows or Vista). The
    NTFS file system limit is explained here:

    How NTFS Works
    http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...bf8e-4164-862d-dac5418c59481033.mspx?mfr=true

    It says the maximum NTFS volume size is, "Implementation: 256 terabytes
    minus 64 KB ( 232 clusters minus 1 cluster)". But we can have multiple hard
    drives and put multiple volumes on each hard drive, so I don't think Vista
    is worried about running out of room for a few years.

    RC
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    R. C. White, MVP, Apr 25, 2007
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  5. Charles W Davis, Apr 25, 2007
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  6. There may be some limitation, but I'm guessing you'd run out of money before
    you reached it. With Vista, and earlier Windows, you could have drives C:
    through Z: and also mount drives as folders into existing drives letters. So
    with both USB and Fire wire, as well as SATA inside, you could easily have a
    few dozen of the 750GB drives. Then there is RAID, where you could have five
    drives as one drive letter.

    I have two of those same Seagate 750GB drives as my P: (pictures) and V:
    (video) drives. I opted for higher performance in general with a 10K RPM
    150GB C: drive. I also have three of the Seagate 750GB drives as externals
    for use as video storage on two other PCs here.

    Bye.
     
    David Sommers, Apr 25, 2007
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  7. And I remember in 1993 when a college said to me, "A one Gig hard drive. How
    would you ever fill it?" He had just read about the technology in a computer
    magazine.

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    Regards,

    Richard Urban
    Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
    (For email, remove the obvious from my address)

    Quote from George Ankner:
    If you knew as much as you think you know,
    You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
     
    Richard Urban, Apr 25, 2007
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  8. Jon

    Conor Guest

    As much as you can fit controller cards in for.
     
    Conor, Apr 25, 2007
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  9. Jon

    Jon Guest

    That article was for Windows server 2003 is NTFS the same for all flavors of
    Windows?

    I thought that Windows XP NTFS limit was 2.5 TBs. Every time I tried to add
    a usb hard to one of my Windows XP PCs that had 2.25 TB on it would always
    lose one of the other hard drives. That is why I upgraded to Vista.

    Ps I have a Media work area for my wifes work and entertainment for my
    family with 1 Mac, 3 Windows MC (1 XP 2 Vista), Media server (dual boot
    Windows XP and WHS beta), 6 Windows XP laptops and 1 Windows XP tablet.
    Jon
     
    Jon, Apr 25, 2007
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  10. Hi, Jon.

    Did you read the whole article? Or at least, down to NTFS Size Limits?
    Yes, it mentions some special features for the new server version of
    Windows, and there are a few comments that apply to only certain Windows
    versions, but most of it applies to all operating systems that use NTFS.

    Wow! You have a LOT of PC power! ;<) And you probably already knew most
    of what we've told you. But that article should help you fill in any gaps.
    The answer to your question still depends on the physical capacity of your
    computer. NTFS in Vista should be able to handle over 200 TB - per VOLUME.
    And you can have multiple volumes on each hard drive, of course, so Vista
    should be able to handle several exabytes on a single disk - theoretically,
    of course.
    No. My hard copy of the Windows XP Resource Kit says (p. 543), "...the
    maximum NTFS volume size as implemented in Windows XP Professional is 2^32
    clusters minus 1 cluster. For example, using 64-KB clusters, the maximum
    NTFS volume size is 256 terabytes minus 64 KB. Using the default cluster
    size of 4 KB, the maximum NTFS volume size is 16 terabytes minus 4 KB." You
    can read the complete WinXP Pro RK online at
    http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c13621675.mspx;
    I haven't seen the Vista RK yet.
    Some other limitation in your computer must have been causing that problem.
    I haven't tried a USB HD, so I don't know about the limits on that. Did all
    the drives show up in Disk Management? I've used only the Professional
    version of WinXP; there may be smaller size limits if you were using a
    different version.

    RC
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    San Marcos, TX

    Microsoft Windows MVP
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    R. C. White, MVP, Apr 25, 2007
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  11. Jon

    Robert Moir Guest

    I wouldn't have thought the file system size was the issue there. I believe
    the size limit for NTFS file systems refers to a partition, not every
    partition on every disk that you happen to have plugged in. I'm interested
    to hear if I'm right or wrong on that now.

    One thing with disks, which you're probably all too aware of but I'll throw
    in anyway, is power concerns. The more drives you add internally, the more
    power will be drawn from the system's PSU.
     
    Robert Moir, Apr 25, 2007
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  12. Jon

    Cecil Guest

    LOL I remember selling 10 MEG not GIG mfm drives and looking the client dead
    in the face in all seriousness and saying, "this is 100 million keystrokes,
    do you really think you will ever fill this up."

    I actually remember when dual 5.25 floppies was a BIG deal and yes I do also
    remember the 8" floppies and 20 meg diskpacks that were the size of a stack
    of 5 pickup truck tires.

    Now our operating systems alone use 10 meg and that is a light version! :)

    Just a little reminiscing from the old fart. Back to your regularly
    scheduled tech meetings. :)

    Cecil
     
    Cecil, Jun 27, 2007
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  13. -snip-
    -snip-

    You meant 10 gig, right? :0)


    Captain Roberts
     
    Captain Roberts, Jun 27, 2007
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  14. Jon

    Cecil Guest

    LOL yup I did :)
    Be well

    Cecil
     
    Cecil, Jun 27, 2007
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  15. Jon

    Somebody Guest

    Had compaies like Microsoft worked to keep their software small, fast and
    code efficient we would probably still be using smaller hard drives.
    However, software and the OSes have bloated like a dead whale laying on a
    beach. That is why we are now approaching the need for 1TB drive systems.
    Lets face it today's programming langauges and the attitudes of companies is
    that storage is cheap so who cares of a photo viewer needs 1GB of hard drive
    space.

    Somebody!
     
    Somebody, Jun 28, 2007
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