Help: What is the administrator password? What if I've never set i

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by john ha, Mar 19, 2010.

  1. john ha

    john ha Guest

    I have heard of the "administrator password" for a super-administrator.

    But I have never "set" the "administrator password" or "super admin password".

    I do, however, have a user account with admin privileges that I set a
    password to.

    Is that the same thing? Does my creating a user account with admin
    privileges and password make the password for the super-admin the same, or
    will the vista admin password still remain blank?

    I'm wondering if this is the case, if a hacker tried to break into my system
    to grab files, if I never set the administrator/super-admin password, does
    that mean there is none, and they just walk right in,

    or does it default to the password I have on my user account with admin
    privileges?

    Thank you again for your help!
     
    john ha, Mar 19, 2010
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. john ha

    Mr. Arnold Guest

    They are two different user accounts and passwords are not shared
    between the two, just like any other user accounts on the machine don't
    share psws with other user accounts.

    But there is nothing stopping you in setting the password for both
    accounts to be the same, to make it easy on you. It's been times I had
    to sit there and think about what is the psw to the super-admin-account,
    since I seldom use the account.

    And the super-admin-account should be psw protected, not left blank.
     
    Mr. Arnold, Mar 19, 2010
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. john ha

    Americano Guest

    Americano, Apr 19, 2010
    #3
  4. john ha

    niemiro Guest

    Hello

    It is not the same thing. Unless you specifically set the roo
    Administrator password (which you said you have not) then there is n
    password set. Therefore, a local hacker could just boot into Safe Mod
    and access your files

    Richar

    --
    niemir

    If you are expecting a response from me, and do not have on
    within 24 hours, PM me. Never feel afraid to send me a PM; that is wha
    the system is for.
     
    niemiro, Apr 23, 2010
    #4
  5. john ha

    theog Guest

    No, safe mode will boot to the User account, not the
    Super-administrator.
     
    theog, Apr 23, 2010
    #5
  6. john ha

    niemiro Guest

    Oh, I had no idea. :eek: So for several years I have been wandering aroun
    with that misconception in my head! Also, why is it that if you loc
    yourself out of your files, you can usually recovery them in Safe Mode
    Is it simply because it is Safe Mode and the security is relaxed
    Thanks

    --
    niemir

    If you are expecting a response from me, and do not have on
    within 24 hours, PM me. Never feel afraid to send me a PM; that is wha
    the system is for.
     
    niemiro, Apr 23, 2010
    #6
  7. Safe Mode *can* boot into the "Administrator" account.
     
    FromTheRafters, Apr 23, 2010
    #7
  8. john ha

    niemiro Guest

    If it *CAN*, then when does it? I am completely confused now

    --
    niemir

    If you are expecting a response from me, and do not have on
    within 24 hours, PM me. Never feel afraid to send me a PM; that is wha
    the system is for.
     
    niemiro, Apr 24, 2010
    #8
  9. john ha

    Paul Adare Guest

    Wow, you're getting answers that are all over the map. Let me try to
    clarify here.

    1. There is no such thing as a "super-administrator. There is an account
    named Administrator and you can add additional accounts that are members of
    the Administrators group.
    2. The difference between the account named Administrator and an account
    that is a member of the Administrators group, is that the account named
    Administrator, if used, will always have an administrative level access
    token and will not be required to elevate by UAC when attempting to perform
    a privileged operation.
    3. Safe mode does not automatically "boot" into any particular account, be
    it the Administrator account, an account that is a member of the
    Administrators group, or a standard user account. Assuming you have a
    password set on the account you need to logon after you've booted to Safe
    mode.
    4. In Vista and Windows 7, the account named Administrator is disabled by
    default, so although you don't set a password on the account named
    Administrator during setup, the account simply can't be used on a default
    system regardless of what mode you're booting into.
    5. From a security perspective there's really no reason to set a password
    on the account named Administrator because of the previous point. In order
    to be able to use the Administrator account, a hacker would first have to
    crack the password of an existing account on your computer that is a member
    of the Administrators group. If they were able to do so, they'd already
    have administrative access to your computer and would have no need to use
    the account named Administrator.
    6. Finally, in order to take advantage of Safe mode in the first place, an
    attacker would need to have physical possession of your computer, in which
    case, the computer is no longer yours, and it belongs to the hacker any
    way.
     
    Paul Adare, Apr 24, 2010
    #9
  10. john ha

    niemiro Guest

    Thank you! What a perfect description! Now we all know what Safe Mod
    is! Thanks again

    Richar

    --
    niemir

    If you are expecting a response from me, and do not have on
    within 24 hours, PM me. Never feel afraid to send me a PM; that is wha
    the system is for.
     
    niemiro, Apr 24, 2010
    #10
  11. Vista (and I assume Windows 7) is designed to activate the Administrator
    account in safe mode if the last administrator level account is demoted
    or removed. This was done so that an accidental demotion of the only
    admin account still gives the user a way back in.

    If you want security for your data even when the "attacker" has physical
    access to your machine, you need to encrypt and manage the key properly.
    Vista has support for TPM, which can safeguard your encryption key in
    hardware so that if the attacker uses an alternate boot the key is not
    released.
     
    FromTheRafters, Apr 24, 2010
    #11
  12. john ha

    theog Guest

    theog, Apr 24, 2010
    #12
  13. john ha

    niemiro Guest

    Now I fully understand. Thanks everyone!


    --
    niemiro

    If you are expecting a response from me, and do not have one
    within 24 hours, PM me. Never feel afraid to send me a PM; that is what
    the system is for.
     
    niemiro, Apr 24, 2010
    #13
  14. john ha

    theog Guest

    It is the same for Win 7
     
    theog, Apr 25, 2010
    #14
  15. john ha

    doctormrli Guest



    When you have installed Windows Vista first time, how long did it tak
    you to realize that you lost the administrator’s password? With me i
    was about a week before I needed to make some changes in the fil
    system. It suddenly occurred to me that being logged in a
    administrator might make the User Account Control dialog box go away
    but I didn’t know the administrator’s password! What the heck is th
    Vista administrator’s default password?

    Unlike the previous releases of Windows, Windows Vista does no
    automatically create an Administrator account during installation. Th
    theory is that the typical Windows user does not need to run wit
    administrator privileges. Using a non-administrator account wil
    prevent a Windows user from accidentally deleting operating syste
    folder, files, and registry information, and prevent any Malwar
    infecting the computer from doing the same. However, if you really nee
    to run as an Administrator, you can easily activate the built-i
    Administrator account yourself.

    Here are the basic steps to activate Vista’s Administrator account an
    assign it a password:

    Logon to Vista using a standard user account
    From the Start menu, navigate to the Command Prompt menu item in th
    Accessories menu
    Right-click on the Command Prompt menu item and select Run a
    Administrator
    Click the Continue button on the User Account Control dialog box
    At the command prompt, enter net user administrator password, and hi
    Enter
    At the command prompt, enter net user administrator activate:yes, an
    hit Enter
    At the command prompt, enter exit and hit Enter to close the comman
    window
    Log off and logon as Administrator using the password you selected
    This procedure activates a user account named Administrator and assign
    it Full Control security privileges. The user name “Administrator” i
    reserved, so you cannot create a user account with this name even i
    you haven’t activated the built-in Administrator account. Depending o
    the local password policy of the computer, you might be required t
    enter a password of a minimum length or complexity, and not be allowe
    to use a blank password.

    I Forgot my Vista Administrator Password!
    The User Accounts applet in Control Panel features the Create
    password reset disk wizard. Using this wizard, a floppy disk or US
    flash drive can be created that allows the password of a specific use
    account on a specific Windows Vista computer to be reset by the user
    Possession of the reset disk is considered to be authorization to rese
    the account’s password. The reset disk can also be reused to reset th
    account’s password multiple times. However, you need to know th
    password of the account you want to create the reset disk for, and yo
    must create the reset disk before you forget the account’s password.

    To use the Vista password reset disk:

    Insert the floppy or USB reset disk in the computer
    Click the Reset password… item on the Vista logon screen to start th
    Password Reset Wizard
    Click the Next button
    Enter a new password
    Reenter the new password
    If prompted, enter a password hint
    Click the Next and Finished buttons
    Enter your new password to logon to the user accoun
     
    doctormrli, May 13, 2010
    #15
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.