HELP with trial XP64 install.

Discussion in 'Windows 64 Bit' started by Mongo, May 24, 2005.

  1. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Hey I was trying to install the Trial XP64 that I got from MS, And I keep
    getting an error. First off my system specs:

    AMD 64 3400+
    Abit KV8 Max3
    1 Gig of DDR 400
    XFX Geforce 6800 Ultra
    Maxtor 200gb Hard-drive IDE

    This is a self built system that has been working great for about a year
    now. Ok I have the hard-drive with 3 partitions 1-100gb with Windows XP Pro.
    2-45gb with random files. 3-45gb Windows XP 64 Ok I got the disc
    shipped from Microsoft for the 64 trial. I put it in to install and it
    works fine to start with, It copies the files then reboots. At this point
    I get the screen to pick from xp32 or xp64 But if I pick the xp64 it says
    (Windows XP 64 needs <windows root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe) it could be
    corrupt or something like that. I can startup the xp32 just fine. Just cant
    get passed this to finish the xp64 install.
    Mongo, May 24, 2005
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  2. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Also when I boot into XP32 and go and look at the third partition in the
    windows32 file the ntoskrnl file is there. So I made a copy and went to the
    1st partition and copied the xp64 ntoskrnl file to the xp32 overwrote it and
    still the same thing. I get that error. Please help been trying to get this
    installed for 2 weeks now. PS this is what my Boot loader says, It looks
    right to me.

    [boot loader]
    [operating systems]
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Pro 64"
    /fastdetect /noexecute=optout
    Mongo, May 24, 2005
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  3. Mongo

    Rick Guest

    It sounds like x64 didn't put its copy of ntoskrnl.exe on the XP Pro
    (32-bit) partition. The XP Pro version cannot load x64, but x64 cab
    load XP Pro.

    Copy the file from the x64 partition to you C:\ drive. Rename the
    original one to ntoskrnl.bak first.
    Rick, May 24, 2005
  4. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Were do I put it on the C: Drive? Because I copied the ntoskrnl.exe file
    from the XP64 Partition and put it in the xp32 system32 file were there was
    one already. But after I reboot I get the same message.
    Mongo, May 25, 2005
  5. Mongo


    I had the same problem. but only when i booted the cd from my slave cd rom
    drive .... The problem went away when I booted from my primary CD /dvd

    MHPNW STAFF, May 25, 2005
  6. Mongo

    Rick Guest

    I think I may have had a brain fart and given you the wrong information.
    I think 'ntldr' in the root is the file you need from the x64 partition.

    Can anyone confirm this?
    Rick, May 25, 2005
  7. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Well thanks for the replies. I wish I had gotten those 2 last post a day
    earilier. BECAUSE I killed my xp32 trying to get the xp64 up and going. I
    have gotten so pissed at this I said fook it and Zeroed the whole drive,
    Repartitioned the drive,Formated the drive. And I just got finished with the
    install of WINDOWS XP 64. WOOOHOOO! I install xp64 on the first partiton.
    It is done and working fine, But Im getting ready to install the xp32 now on
    partition 2 I hope it doesnt screw up the xp64. And I hope installing the
    xp64 on the first partiton is not problems down the road. Wish me luck and
    thanks for the help ANYWAY.
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
  8. No, don't do it. Installing the 32-bit after the 64 bit will surely cause
    problems. The 32-bit installation program doesn't know anything about x64.
    Charlie Russel - MVP, May 26, 2005
  9. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Crap! ok I have now installed xp32 and it works fine but it killed the xp64
    it now gives me the same error ( ntoskrnl ) So I found the ntldr on the
    xp64 cd, But were do I put it on the xp32 system. I tried to put it in the
    windows/driver cache/I386/Drivers and it will not let me copy it there. I
    put it in the windows file no change. the I put it in the system32 file no
    change. So were exactly do I put it. C: What.
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
  10. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    No One?

    Mongo, May 26, 2005
  11. Mongo

    Juan Jansen Guest

    Try to copy ntldr and from the x64 cd to the boot drive
    (probably C:\) overwrite them both

    Check if you're boot drive (where boot.ini is located) is really C:\
    otherwise use the other drive

    Juan Jansen, May 26, 2005
  12. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Ok I bootup into xp32. I checked and now the boot drive is D: were the
    xp32 was installed. My xp64 is on C: Anyway I put the Trial XP64 cd in and
    copied the ntoskrnl and ntdetect files over to the D: Partiton. SAME. So I
    put those 2 files in the Windows file Same. So I put those 2 files in the
    system32 file SAME. SO I put those 2 files in the SP1 file SAME. I havent
    put SP2 on the system yet But everything that I have tried and I still get
    that error. I did a search for the ntoskrnl file and I see its in the
    drivers cache file but I cant replace that one. It will not let me. This is
    such crap and I dont understand it.
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
  13. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    If you read the first thing that I posted in this, Thats were I started. I
    had xp32 running then I installed xp64 and it would not start after the 1st
    reboot it said Windows needs system32\ntoskrnl.exe it is missing or corupt.
    I kept playing around triying to get it to work and ended up making the xp32
    stop booting. So I Zeroed the drive then partitoned it in to 3 parts. Then
    I installed xp64 on the 1st partition and It worked great. I rebooted it a
    few time everything was good so I then installed xp32 on the 2nd partition
    and now I get the same error as before and cant boot to xp64, But the xp32
    works fine. I have tried everything posted above and it changes nothing.
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
  14. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Ok I did this. One question that I have is, The file ntoskrnl on the xp32
    is 1.94mb and the one I copy from the xp64 CD is 3.20mb. Ok if I copy that
    over it ask me do I want to overwrite the 1.94 for the 3.20 I say yes and it
    will. but if you wait a little and check it the file will go back to 1.94mbs
    WTF. And copying the ntldr file from the CD to the D:\ did nothing when I
    rebooted same error.
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
  15. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Sorry for all this it just sucks so bad. Yes I did copy the NTLDR from the
    xp64 CD. I put in these files one at a time and rebooted FILES:
    (D:\Windows)-(D:\Windows\system32)-(D:\Windows\ServicePackFiles\i386) And
    none of that worked. SO were did you put it to make it work again. PS: D:
    is were the xp32 is installed.
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
  16. you foot is safe.


    Charlie Russel - MVP, May 26, 2005
  17. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Your not going to believe this. OK I went ahead and installed the SP2 on my
    XP32. I rebooted and then dropped the ntoskrnl.exe, ntdetect,ntdlr Files
    into the D: drive and rebooted. When I got the the pick OS screen I selected
    the XP64 and it booted up. So it works now not sure why but it does Rebooted
    3 time to make sure good everytime. Ok now for the bad part! I played in
    the XP64 for about 20 mins then I rebooted and selected the XP32 OS And now
    theres an error there. It says (Windows needs system32\hal.dll) Now what
    did I screw up? I got the XP64 up and going and the XP32 screws up. Im glad
    my guns not in this room :) Anyone know what I can do to fix this now?
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
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