HELP with trial XP64 install.

Discussion in 'Windows 64 Bit' started by Mongo, May 24, 2005.

  1. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Hey I was trying to install the Trial XP64 that I got from MS, And I keep
    getting an error. First off my system specs:

    AMD 64 3400+
    Abit KV8 Max3
    1 Gig of DDR 400
    XFX Geforce 6800 Ultra
    Maxtor 200gb Hard-drive IDE

    This is a self built system that has been working great for about a year
    now. Ok I have the hard-drive with 3 partitions 1-100gb with Windows XP Pro.
    2-45gb with random files. 3-45gb Windows XP 64 Ok I got the disc
    shipped from Microsoft for the 64 trial. I put it in to install and it
    works fine to start with, It copies the files then reboots. At this point
    I get the screen to pick from xp32 or xp64 But if I pick the xp64 it says
    (Windows XP 64 needs <windows root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe) it could be
    corrupt or something like that. I can startup the xp32 just fine. Just cant
    get passed this to finish the xp64 install.
     
    Mongo, May 24, 2005
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  2. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Also when I boot into XP32 and go and look at the third partition in the
    windows32 file the ntoskrnl file is there. So I made a copy and went to the
    1st partition and copied the xp64 ntoskrnl file to the xp32 overwrote it and
    still the same thing. I get that error. Please help been trying to get this
    installed for 2 weeks now. PS this is what my Boot loader says, It looks
    right to me.

    [boot loader]
    timeout=10
    default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
    [operating systems]
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
    Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut
    multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(3)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Pro 64"
    /fastdetect /noexecute=optout
     
    Mongo, May 24, 2005
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  3. Mongo

    Rick Guest

    It sounds like x64 didn't put its copy of ntoskrnl.exe on the XP Pro
    (32-bit) partition. The XP Pro version cannot load x64, but x64 cab
    load XP Pro.

    Copy the file from the x64 partition to you C:\ drive. Rename the
    original one to ntoskrnl.bak first.
     
    Rick, May 24, 2005
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  4. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Were do I put it on the C: Drive? Because I copied the ntoskrnl.exe file
    from the XP64 Partition and put it in the xp32 system32 file were there was
    one already. But after I reboot I get the same message.
     
    Mongo, May 25, 2005
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  5. Mongo

    MHPNW STAFF Guest

    I had the same problem. but only when i booted the cd from my slave cd rom
    drive .... The problem went away when I booted from my primary CD /dvd
    player

    Dennis
     
    MHPNW STAFF, May 25, 2005
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  6. Mongo

    Rick Guest

    I think I may have had a brain fart and given you the wrong information.
    I think 'ntldr' in the root is the file you need from the x64 partition.

    Can anyone confirm this?
     
    Rick, May 25, 2005
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  7. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Well thanks for the replies. I wish I had gotten those 2 last post a day
    earilier. BECAUSE I killed my xp32 trying to get the xp64 up and going. I
    have gotten so pissed at this I said fook it and Zeroed the whole drive,
    Repartitioned the drive,Formated the drive. And I just got finished with the
    install of WINDOWS XP 64. WOOOHOOO! I install xp64 on the first partiton.
    It is done and working fine, But Im getting ready to install the xp32 now on
    partition 2 I hope it doesnt screw up the xp64. And I hope installing the
    xp64 on the first partiton is not problems down the road. Wish me luck and
    thanks for the help ANYWAY.
     
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
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  8. No, don't do it. Installing the 32-bit after the 64 bit will surely cause
    problems. The 32-bit installation program doesn't know anything about x64.
     
    Charlie Russel - MVP, May 26, 2005
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  9. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Crap! ok I have now installed xp32 and it works fine but it killed the xp64
    it now gives me the same error ( ntoskrnl ) So I found the ntldr on the
    xp64 cd, But were do I put it on the xp32 system. I tried to put it in the
    windows/driver cache/I386/Drivers and it will not let me copy it there. I
    put it in the windows file no change. the I put it in the system32 file no
    change. So were exactly do I put it. C: What.
     
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
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  10. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    No One?

     
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
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  11. Mongo

    Juan Jansen Guest

    Try to copy ntldr and ntdetect.com from the x64 cd to the boot drive
    (probably C:\) overwrite them both

    Check if you're boot drive (where boot.ini is located) is really C:\
    otherwise use the other drive

    Gretings
     
    Juan Jansen, May 26, 2005
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  12. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Ok I bootup into xp32. I checked and now the boot drive is D: were the
    xp32 was installed. My xp64 is on C: Anyway I put the Trial XP64 cd in and
    copied the ntoskrnl and ntdetect files over to the D: Partiton. SAME. So I
    put those 2 files in the Windows file Same. So I put those 2 files in the
    system32 file SAME. SO I put those 2 files in the SP1 file SAME. I havent
    put SP2 on the system yet But everything that I have tried and I still get
    that error. I did a search for the ntoskrnl file and I see its in the
    drivers cache file but I cant replace that one. It will not let me. This is
    such crap and I dont understand it.
     
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
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  13. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    If you read the first thing that I posted in this, Thats were I started. I
    had xp32 running then I installed xp64 and it would not start after the 1st
    reboot it said Windows needs system32\ntoskrnl.exe it is missing or corupt.
    I kept playing around triying to get it to work and ended up making the xp32
    stop booting. So I Zeroed the drive then partitoned it in to 3 parts. Then
    I installed xp64 on the 1st partition and It worked great. I rebooted it a
    few time everything was good so I then installed xp32 on the 2nd partition
    and now I get the same error as before and cant boot to xp64, But the xp32
    works fine. I have tried everything posted above and it changes nothing.
     
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
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  14. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Ok I did this. One question that I have is, The file ntoskrnl on the xp32
    is 1.94mb and the one I copy from the xp64 CD is 3.20mb. Ok if I copy that
    over it ask me do I want to overwrite the 1.94 for the 3.20 I say yes and it
    will. but if you wait a little and check it the file will go back to 1.94mbs
    WTF. And copying the ntldr file from the CD to the D:\ did nothing when I
    rebooted same error.
     
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
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  15. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Sorry for all this it just sucks so bad. Yes I did copy the NTLDR from the
    xp64 CD. I put in these files one at a time and rebooted FILES:
    (D:\Windows)-(D:\Windows\system32)-(D:\Windows\ServicePackFiles\i386) And
    none of that worked. SO were did you put it to make it work again. PS: D:
    is were the xp32 is installed.
     
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
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  16. you foot is safe.

    --
    Charlie.

     
    Charlie Russel - MVP, May 26, 2005
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  17. Mongo

    Mongo Guest

    Your not going to believe this. OK I went ahead and installed the SP2 on my
    XP32. I rebooted and then dropped the ntoskrnl.exe, ntdetect,ntdlr Files
    into the D: drive and rebooted. When I got the the pick OS screen I selected
    the XP64 and it booted up. So it works now not sure why but it does Rebooted
    3 time to make sure good everytime. Ok now for the bad part! I played in
    the XP64 for about 20 mins then I rebooted and selected the XP32 OS And now
    theres an error there. It says (Windows needs system32\hal.dll) Now what
    did I screw up? I got the XP64 up and going and the XP32 screws up. Im glad
    my guns not in this room :) Anyone know what I can do to fix this now?
     
    Mongo, May 26, 2005
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