Hibernate or sleep

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Harmon Koeltz, Sep 8, 2007.

  1. Helen,

    Then perhaps the problem is actually the screen saver itself.
    I would recommend that you turn off the screen saver and see if the system
    will automatically enter the sleep state.

    In the screen saver setting page, set the screen saver to 'none', then in
    the Change power settings, select 'balanced' standard setting. This will get
    you to a common configuration from which you can then make one change at a
    time till you get what you want.

    What screen saver are you using? If it is not one that came with the Vista
    package it may not be fully compatible with Vista or your video card.

    Screen saver is independent of the power options of turn off display and
    sleep. If you currently have the power options set to not enter sleep (from
    your Original Post 'the Power Save is set to none') then the system will not
    try to enter sleep, the Screen Saver part does not do any transfer to sleep
    function by itself.

    Michael
     
    Michael Walraven, Nov 4, 2007
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    Raelene Guest

    Hi, I also have this problem. I have switched the hibernation feature off as
    I was sick of having to turn my computer off at the power point. The on/off
    button will not work when my computer goes into this mode and nor will
    anything elso. I keep getting told about the amazing amount of power you can
    save using this mode and would love to know how to get it to work correctly.
    Any solutions would be great. Thanks
     
    Raelene, Nov 4, 2007
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    Rawdawg68 Guest

    helen and Don,
    I'm having the same trouble. I walk away for 10 minutes, the machine goes
    to s;eep and never wakes up. I've tried the mouse, the keyboard, nothing
    works. I've even shut off the monitor and turned it back on but it says it's
    not gettinga signal then it goes to sleep. I have to hold the power button
    in to shut the computer off, then when i turn it back on I get the fatal
    error message/blue screen of death. I've been trying to remember to shut
    down the computer after every use but I'm used to leaving it on during the
    day and I don't always remember. I need help too!
     
    Rawdawg68, Nov 6, 2007
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  4. If you have to hold the power button in for several seconds then the machine
    has NOT finished going to sleep.

    For first test turn off your screen saver (set to NONE) see if it goes into
    sleep now.
    Also will the machine go to sleep when told to manually? (start orb, the
    'broken circle with line thru the top')

    Michel
     
    Michael Walraven, Nov 6, 2007
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    Chris Blunt Guest

    What you say sounds logical, but that doesn't seem to be the way it
    works on my system. After hibernating, my tower appears to completely
    power off, the fans stop running and all the lights go out. However, I
    can still wake up the system by using the keyboard or mouse. I can
    only guess that the motherboard somehow keeps monitoring the USB ports
    that these devices are connected to even when everything else is
    powered down.

    Chris
     
    Chris Blunt, Nov 6, 2007
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    chakravarthy Guest

    Hi All,

    Recently i had run the disk clean up on Windows Vista Laptop.
    After Clean i am not able to find the Hibernate Option.
    What can i do to restore it.
     
    chakravarthy, Nov 6, 2007
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    DevilsPGD Guest

    In message <> Chris Blunt
    Does the same apply after shutting down?

    Even if not, hibernation may not be 100% identical to powered off at the
    hardware level, my laptop will resume from hibernation when it's opened,
    but not from powered-off.

    However, power can be safety disconnected (including battery) from
    hibernate, and the power light is off, not showing the standby colour.
     
    DevilsPGD, Nov 6, 2007
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    Max Guest

    Run Command Prompt as Administrator.
    Type:
    powercfg -h on
    Press enter. Close Command Prompt window.
    In the future, when running disk cleanup, uncheck Hibernation in the options
    to prevent this from happening.
     
    Max, Nov 6, 2007
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    Chris Blunt Guest

    No. After a full shutdown, only the power button will restart the
    system.
     
    Chris Blunt, Nov 6, 2007
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  10. Chris,

    Are you sure that you are actually hibernating? Default for Vista is sleep
    mode with hybrid hibernate.
    I just confirmed that on my system (Dell XPS410, Vista Home premium)
    hibernate will not wake from mouse or keyboard. (connection is PS2 rather
    than USB on your machine however).

    When resuming from hibernate I see the BIOS startup screen then a windows
    screen with 'resuming' bar running along bottom of screen. Waking from sleep
    just puts me back to where I was without the BIOS and 'resuming screens.

    There seem to be several people reporting having problems getting their
    systems to wake, none of them are getting back to report if they are getting
    their problem fixed or if more help is needed so cannot say if any of my
    advise on the subject is way off or helping.

    I will have to check my bios and see if I can borrow a USB keyboard and see
    if there is a wake machine option on my Dell for keyboard that way.

    Michael
     
    Michael Walraven, Nov 6, 2007
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    Chris Blunt Guest

    I'm fairly sure it really is hibernating. Under the "Power Options"
    settings "Allow hybrid sleep" is set to "Off". Also, after telling the
    system to hibernate there are a few minutes of continuous disk
    activity before the fans stop and the LEDs finally go out, so it
    certainly looks as if its writing the system out to disk, as you would
    expect in a true hibernation.

    If just tried changing the "Allow hybrid sleep" setting to "On", and
    in that case the "Hibernate" option disappears completely from the
    shutdown menu options.

    That's exactly what I see on this system after resuming from hibernate
    and sleep. I've checked once again, and can confirm I can definitely
    resume from hibernation by hitting a key on the keyboard.
     
    Chris Blunt, Nov 6, 2007
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  12. Chris,
    Thanks very much for your information. I looked in my BIOS and can only find
    startup options for the NIC (on motherboard).

    The power operations of Vista are vastly improved over what I had in XP. I
    am not sure how much that is from improved software and how much from
    improved hardware/BIOS on the newer machines that have the Vista.

    I currently have the 'Allow hybrid sleep' ON in my machine so that if the
    machine is sleeping, and power fails, and my UPS runs out of power, (I AM
    NOT paranoid) then I don't lose anything.

    Michael
     
    Michael Walraven, Nov 6, 2007
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    Rawdawg68 Guest

    Ya, I tried that last night. I clicked on the sleep button, it powered down,
    the power light turned orange on both the computer and monitor (I just bought
    this HP a6203w a few weeks ago) and I waited about a minute before moving the
    mouse. The power light on both turned blue again but the monitor said it
    wasn't getting a signal and went back to sleep. That's when I have to hold
    in the power button to get the computer to shut off because pushing the
    keyboard and mouse buttons does nothing. When it starts back up it says
    "restarting wiindows" but then the blue error screen comes up and I shut it
    off. I've tried letting it sit to see if it boots up, but it never does so I
    shut it off by the power button again. If I let it sit a couple hours it
    restarts fine after that.
     
    Rawdawg68, Nov 6, 2007
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  14. Whoops, I missed the part about moving the mouse starts things going again,
    so it does appear to be the waking that is the problem rather than the going
    to sleep. Sorry about that.

    I can only offer some generic advice...

    Check with HP site for BIOS upgrades. My Dell is fairly new but have had two
    upgrades to the BIOS, one said it improved 'power management'.

    Check with the Vista update site for a couple of optional reliability
    enhancement updates, they are not 'security' updates so are not
    automatically installed. I believe there was some 'power' issues resolved by
    those updates.

    Disable all startup programs, close all running programs and see if you can
    sleep/wake with them off.

    Check with HP/vender for updates to your video card, some people reported
    power problems that were cured that way.

    Check the 'Event Viewer' sometimes it actually has enough information in the
    'error' section to be helpful.

    In the Device Manager for your network card, make sure that under the power
    management tab that Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power
    is checked.

    Michael
    Vista Home Premium Dell XPS410
     
    Michael Walraven, Nov 6, 2007
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    anandk Guest

    There is a (lesser known) hotfix KB941600 which is helpful in foll cases:
    When the computer resumes from a suspend state or from a hibernation state,
    the computer stops responding; or The computer takes a long time to resume
    from a suspend state or from a hibernation state, etc. This update is not
    available through WindowsUpdates. Download for 32bit :
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...5A-EB6B-40E3-AE83-5200B7EF497B&displaylang=en

    More at http://www.winvistaclub.com/t27.html

    Try it and see if it helps resolve 'coming back from' issues.

    http://www.WinVistaClub.com
     
    anandk, Nov 7, 2007
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    sickyd Guest

    I am wondering this about the power options in Vista. It seemed on my XP
    laptop that standby would "seat" the harddrive arm and turn off everything,
    just giving juice to the RAM, but in Vista Sleep seems to be just a more
    intense screensaver, none of my LED lights go off or flash, and the disk
    drive light is constantly flashing indicating hard drive access, which would
    not be good if I tried to move it. Just wondering if my only option is to
    Hibernate everytime I want to move the laptop, because before in XP I would
    do standby and be fine moving it from room to room.
     
    sickyd, Nov 22, 2007
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    William V Guest

    what is the name of the update or the url to get this update ?
     
    William V, Dec 4, 2007
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