HID Non-User Input Data Filter (KB 911895)

Discussion in 'Windows Update' started by akny84b, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. akny84b

    akny84b Guest

    I was not able to install:

    Microsoft - Other hardware - HID Non-User Input Data Filter (KB 911895)
     
    akny84b, Jul 18, 2009
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  2. PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 18, 2009
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  3. Windows Update offered this, and when installed, disabled the built-in
    wireless network adapter on my HP laptop. Fortunately, I was able to roll
    back windows XP using system restore, but sheesh!

    Please don't off any more updates that disable my system. I lost two hours
    trying to get my adapter to work before i gave up and did the ollback. This
    isn't funny. People are trying to get work done out here.

    Robert Thomas
     
    Robert Thomas, Aug 27, 2009
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  4. This is a peer-to-peer newsgroup. No one here likely offered you anything
    at all - and even if they did - it is your options to investigate it and
    accept/deny the offer as you see fit. Accepting things you don't understand
    is probably not something you should do anyway. ;-)
     
    Shenan Stanley, Sep 5, 2009
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  5. Actually he did, at least by implication: "Please don't off[er] any more updates".
    Just because it caused problems for one person, doesn't mean it will cause
    problems for everyone. Look up the KB article (911895) on Microsoft's site. If
    you have one of the affected pieces of hardware, it is probably a good idea to
    install the update.
    Unfortunately, computers are not yet appliances. They can't be relied upon to
    Just Work; they need maintenance now and then. That's just the state of the
    art. Think of it like owning a car back in the early days of this century ...
    either you learn how to fix it yourself, or you get someone else to do it for
    you, because it *will* break down. :)

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Sep 25, 2009
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  6. akny84b

    Me Guest

    Great customer service! We can tell Microsoft values it's people as customers!
    How about Microsoft's responsibility to ONLY SELL SOFTWARE THAT IS SAFE AND
    ACTUALLY WORKS WITHOUT NEEDING UPDATES EVERY WEEK?!

    No wonder people are buying Macs.
     
    Me, Apr 20, 2010
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  7. <snipped by original responder>

    A response from "Me" without even the common courtesy or fortitude in their
    own belief to give an actual name. Shows not only ignorance of facts but
    lack of will.

    Macs get updates. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1222 (example)

    As far as selling *anything* that is safe by anyone - rarely exists and
    where it does - it is usually mundane and not as useful as most other
    products. ;-)

    Again - peer-to-peer. No one here (unless specified) represents Microsoft
    in any fashion. Much like me - volunteers - people give of their time and
    knowledge as they see fit, freely, to assist others where they can.

    Sometimes people do not come here to get assistance - but to rant (see your
    posting for an example if unsure what I mean.) I do not understand what
    they hope to accomplish other than a release of whatever frustration
    build-up they might have surrounding their own situation (and most of the
    time - that is all it comes down to in all forms - they are looking for an
    outlet for the frustrations and the trouble is usually with *their* system.)

    Good luck with that - hope you got what you came for - even if you had to do
    so anonymously by tacking onto a post started in July 2009/ending in
    September 2009.

    Here it is in its entirety - in case where ever you posted from missed some:
    http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/4056d0f412fde1d9
     
    Shenan Stanley, Apr 20, 2010
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  8. Infamous hacker applauds the security of Microsoft software; less than
    pleased with Apple and Adobe offerings
    http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/0...f-microsoft-software-apple-adobe-not-so-good/
    <snip>
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Apr 20, 2010
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  9. Unfortunately, software engineering as a science is still in a very early stage;
    more akin to alchemy than chemistry, really. Put simply, nobody knows how to
    make reliable software, except perhaps in some special cases.

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Apr 21, 2010
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  10. akny84b

    CB3dot Guest

    Perhaps it sooths the heart of the enraged beast to bark and wail into the
    wind, but in the end, generally no one is listening who can provide solace.

    I was a programmer for many years, and wrote and released code, sometimes
    unaware of a bug that slumbered in some dark corner until awakened. When that
    happened, we reviewed the code, made changes, tested, published and hoped the
    fix worked.

    Back in the day when we were on mainframe computers, updates from IBM and
    major providers went through rigorous testing life cycles and were not pushed
    out to clients until proper, standardized procedures were performed.

    Today, the culture has demanded instant new functionality. In the background
    is the driver, YOU and ME, who demand that productA stay ahead of productB.
    Testing is performed at a rudimentary level by someone sitting at a virtual
    desktop, in a virtual location with an address at 123 Elm Street, country
    unknown. Anything beyond the first level of testing is performed by THE USER!
    When something goes wrong, we sling invective into ahole in the ground, that
    reverberates, falling on ears belonging to someone who might wish to help,
    but in the end has focus split between trying to help, and at the same time
    slinging one back.

    The fact is, we can embrace and work with the culture, or sit in a corner,
    stare at the blank wall and despair.
     
    CB3dot, Apr 22, 2010
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  11. Microsoft does actually do this sort of testing, which is one of the reasons
    there is often such a long delay between the original vulnerability report and
    the release of an update. But IBM operating systems ran on IBM computers, and
    generally weren't mucked about much by third parties: Windows runs on PCs from a
    large number of third parties, and typically has all sorts of third party
    software (malicious and/or benign) modifying its behaviour. There are just too
    many variables nowadays for testing to be as effective as it once was.

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], Apr 24, 2010
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  12. akny84b

    BabyD Guest

    I agree, I have used a windows pc since they came out. and also have a mac.
    And needless to say the proof is in the pudding. Windows has way to me
    problems and i mean more than just the updates. MAC IS THE WAY TO GO. worry
    fee
     
    BabyD, May 12, 2010
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  13. It's always puzzled me a bit when people say things like this. Quite apart from
    the hideous user interface (admittedly I've heard it's improved in the last few
    years) my experience has always been the opposite - I've always found Windows to
    be more reliable than MacOS.

    I'm only working with Windows these days, but for five or six years I supported
    both Windows and Macintosh teaching labs. As a matter of professional pride, I
    really did try my best to hate both platforms equally, but I couldn't ignore the
    fact that the Macintoshes gave me a great deal more grief.

    My best guess is that the discrepancy comes from two factors:

    1) Macintoshes, I suspect, become much less reliable in an enterprise
    configuration than they are at home. If anything the opposite may be true for
    Windows. This would kind of make sense if you think about it, because Apple
    started out in the home market and Microsoft in the business market.

    The enterprise sector isn't very significant for Apple, AFAIK - there are some
    trades which generally use Macs but I suspect they are typically set up as
    stand-alone machines, administered on a 1:1 basis; in other words, just like
    home machines. So I'm not sure Apple put very much effort into support and
    testing in the enterprise context.

    2) Home PCs are often cheap and nasty hardware, whereas I've generally used more
    reliable equipment. My experience suggeests that Macintoshes lie somewhere in
    the middle of the range, not as good as the best PC hardware, but much better
    than the cheapest stuff. Hardware faults are to blame for OS instability more
    often than people think.

    Harry.
     
    Harry Johnston [MVP], May 12, 2010
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  14. akny84b

    Hanc Guest

    Hanc, Jul 1, 2010
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  15. akny84b

    Hanc Guest

    Has anyone actually been able to discover what is within the update?

    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/911895

    Broken link!!!!
     
    Hanc, Jul 1, 2010
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  16. Robert Aldwinckle, Jul 1, 2010
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  17. KB911895 is an all-purpose alias for all driver updates offered via Windows
    Update.

    Tip: Only obtain driver updates you really need from the device or computer
    manufacturers' download page, not Windows Update.
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 1, 2010
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