How do I disable the Security Center notice about my UAC being off

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Security' started by rowanc88, Apr 16, 2008.

  1. rowanc88

    rowanc88 Guest

    Every single time I log in to Windows, that bloody little pop-up comes in the
    notification area saying that my UAC is off and that this is a horrible
    problem.
    I know it's off. I turned it off. Why the hell would I be unaware of that?

    So my question is, how do I stop that annoying notice coming up every single
    time I start Windows?
     
    rowanc88, Apr 16, 2008
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    Dave Guest

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    t-4-2 Guest

    Hello, to turn off notification : Control Panel > Classic view
    Security Centre, left side panel, click "change the way Security Centr
    alerts me " > click " don't notify me, but display the icon " ( PLEASE
    do not select the last alternative ). You won't see the pop-up again
    just a little icon inside the notification area. Satisfied
     
    t-4-2, Apr 16, 2008
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  4. rowanc88

    rowanc88 Guest

    Why shouldn't I choose the last option, t-4-2? Seems like the one I'd want.
     
    rowanc88, Apr 16, 2008
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  5. rowanc88

    t-4-2 Guest

    Hello, Your "beef" is with UAC, not the entire security system of your
    computer, i.e. windows defender, windows firewall, internet options etc.
    You shut off the notifications from the entire system, you will not know
    if windows defender and or firewall has been turned off or not.( You are
    NOT the only one that can turn them off.)
    In short, you are putting out a welcome mat to all viruses etc.
    " Security Centre can alert you when your computer might be at risk by
    displaying a
    notification ----" , that's you will see if you click open the Security
    Centre .
    Picking the last option, it's your funeral.
     
    t-4-2, Apr 16, 2008
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  6. rowanc88

    Kayman Guest

    For your information and consideration :)
    The best defenses are:
    1. Do not work in elevated level; Day-to-day work should be
    performed while the User Account Control (UAC) is enabled. Turning
    off UAC reduces the security of your computer and may expose you to
    increased risk from malicious software.
    2. Familiarize yourself with "Services Hardening in Windows Vista".
    3. Keep your operating (OS) system (and all software on it)
    updated/patched.
    4. Reconsider the usage of IE.
    5. Review your installed 3rd party software applications/utilities;
    Remove clutter.
    6. Don't expose services to public networks.
    7. Activate the build-in firewall and tack together its advanced
    configuration settings.
    7a.If on high-speed internet use a router as well.
    8. Routinely practice safe-hex.
    9. Regularly back-up data/files.
    10.Familiarize yourself with crash recovery tools and with
    re-installing your operating system (OS).
    11.Utilize a real-time anti-virus application and vital system
    monitoring utilities/applications.
    12.Keep abreast of the latest developments - Sh!t happens...you know.

    The least preferred defenses are:
    Myriads of popular anti-whatever applications and staying ignorant.

    Peez of pith, really :)
     
    Kayman, Apr 17, 2008
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  7. rowanc88

    SG Guest

    If I were you I'd go ahead and choose it. You've killed IE protective mode
    when you turned of UAC, so you might as well turn off everything else.

    --
    All the best,
    SG

    Is your computer system ready for Vista?
    https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
     
    SG, Apr 17, 2008
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  8. rowanc88

    rowanc88 Guest

    I do all of that,
    but I'm not an idiot that needs UAC asking for confirmation every time I do
    something. My anti-virus & anti-spyware software blocks anything bad that
    comes through, which is hardly ever.

    I also don't use IE, because it's just as bad as UAC, needing confirmation
    for everything, telling you it's so horrible that you've got pop-up blocker
    and the phishing tool off.

    MS really needs to reconsider the level of security they force on everyone
    who has Windows. Because not everyone is a first time user who has no idea
    what they're doing. All this security does is piss off the regular users.
     
    rowanc88, Apr 17, 2008
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  9. rowanc88

    DevilsPGD Guest

    In message <> rowanc88
    What exactly are you doing on a regular basis that needs confirmation?
     
    DevilsPGD, Apr 17, 2008
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  10. rowanc88

    rowanc88 Guest

    Other than the usual annoyances when working with executables, UAC comes up
    every single time I log into Windows asking me about my network login tool,
    Clean Access, stopping my computer from loading any further.

    The fact of the matter is, that so many people aren't beginners, we know
    what we're doing, and we've already got enough protection, as well as common
    sense, in place to stop anything from attacking the computer. Google
    'annoying UAC', and you'll get 193,000 cases of people pissed off at it. So
    I'm not alone.
     
    rowanc88, Apr 17, 2008
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  11. rowanc88

    Mark H Guest

    You're not alone, but then 193,000 out of millions is not exactly a
    significant number. I'm with you 100% and think MS simply decided the only
    way to get vendors to fix how they do things was to piss off the user enough
    to complain to them. Personally, I don't work for MS and think I paid way
    more than this product was worth to have to now do their work for them at my
    own expense and frustration.

    Common sense goes a long way and with it, you need almost no protection.
    (How did we ever survive before UAC?) But, you will not convince the
    majority who become alarmist when you turn off the mandated or perceived
    need for lots of protection. For some reason, they seem to think that
    clicking a button stating Continue is protecting them from harm. Do they
    understand the warning? If they've decided to Continue after the first
    warning, do they need to read the same warning when it pops up for the third
    or fourth time for the same program start? Better yet, do they even read the
    message anymore? The only thing accomplished by UAC is the absolution of MS
    from damaging your computer... ...MS tried to warn you before krzpqtz.exe at
    0x8007700b executed and YOU pressed Continue anyway.

    It's your computer. Do what you want. If you lose files because you
    formatted C:, restore them. If you lose files because of a virus, restore
    them. If you're worried about identity theft, zombie computers, or loss of
    sensitive data... ...why are you on the Web? The protection out there is no
    better than a condom. Making the condom thicker, glow in the dark and
    putting it on with glue (UAC) doesn't make it work better.

    To those who seem to never run into UAC... good for you.

    As always, there is a distinct difference between the home user and
    business. UAC and the Standard User are highly encouraged in business use.
    If you mix home and business on your computer, you deserve the outcome.

    I fully recommend the use of Windows Firewall and Defender. Install a
    free Anti-virus that you never have to interact with other than installation
    and when a virus is found. If you are on broadband, get a router with
    built-in firewall. If you must send or answer chain e-mails, have the
    decency to cut and paste the text to a new letter so everyone else's e-mail
    address is removed.
     
    Mark H, Apr 17, 2008
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  12. rowanc88

    rowanc88 Guest

    193,000 out of millions is a significant number really, because those 193,000
    have posted on the internet about their complaints, and have used the word
    annoying, and have also used the word UAC. You can't say that everyone who's
    annoyed at it has posted in a forum about it.
     
    rowanc88, Apr 17, 2008
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  13. rowanc88

    Mark H Guest

    I think you missed the line in my post where "I'm 100% with you on UAC."
    I've barked up this tree to no avail.
    Even so...

    193,000 is approximately 0.2 million. (And if googled, 50% of these are
    repeats from "copy" sites.)
    With over 100 million licenses sold, 0.2 million is 0.2%.

    That means 99.8% are not complaining about UAC.
    In statistics, 0.2% is insignificant and as a businessman, I wouldn't
    touch my product based on 0.2% complaints.

    Some will tell you that those who complain in writing (internet) make up
    about 5% of the real situation. That means that there are actually about 2%
    to 4% of all licensed users complaining about UAC. Still insignificant in
    statistics even though it indicates about 3 million users worldwide.

    The roar may be loud if you stand amongst the 193,000, but standing a
    little ways back, it's dead silent.
    (Tree in the forest thing.)
     
    Mark H, Apr 17, 2008
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  14. rowanc88

    rowanc88 Guest

    ....
    I never argued against you about UAC being annoying,
    I'm just saying it's very short sighted to assume that the 193,000 people
    who have posted on the internet with the keywords 'annoying' and 'UAC' are
    the only ones pissed off at the UAC.

    I also think it's wrong to assume that 100 million people use Vista. If one
    person owns one Vista license at home, one at work, and even a few for their
    kids, they won't write in a complaint with the keywords 'annoying' and 'UAC'
    five times, one for each license. Their first port of call would probably be
    to ring up their computer retailer.
     
    rowanc88, Apr 18, 2008
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  15. rowanc88

    t-4-2 Guest

    Hello rowance,
    This is t-4-2 again. Here is another link whose purpose is to elevate
    your previledges to higher level in order to avoid the annoyance of UAC
    .. It's a compromise whereby Uac is still on but won't bother you as long
    as you are on admin.account. Read the tutorial, it explains better than
    I can.

    http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/80938-user-account-control-uac-elevate-privilege-level.html
     
    t-4-2, Apr 18, 2008
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  16. rowanc88

    SG Guest

    Quote from Ronnie Vernon Microsoft MVP whom IMO best explains the drawbacks
    of doing as this website suggest as well as any other Tweak program or
    Registry hack that runs UAC in quiet mode.

    Quote:
    This is a fallacy! If UAC cannot notify the user that a program is trying to
    gain global access to the system, then it is effectively 'disabled'. This so
    called 'quite mode' setting just changes a UAC registry setting to
    'automatically elevate everything without prompting'. This means that when
    you click to open a file, it is 'assumed' that you already know that the
    file will have unrestricted access to your computer.

    The main thing that UAC does is to detect when a program or application
    tries to access restricted parts of the system or registry that requires
    administrator privileges. When a program does this, UAC will prompt the user
    for administrative elevation. Without this prompt, UAC cannot warn the user,
    which means that it is effectively disabled.

    Some people will tell you that using "quiet mode" will still let IE run in
    protected mode, but this just isn't true. Without the UAC prompt, a
    malicious file that runs from a website can run, without restrictions, and
    silently.

    Another issue is that with UAC prompt disabled, some legitimate procedures
    will just silently fail to work properly, with no notification, if you are
    logged on with a Standard User account, since the application cannot notify
    you that administrative privileges are required.

    Even the developer of the TweakUAC utility includes this statement about his
    product.
    "if you are an experienced user and have some understanding of how to manage
    your Windows settings properly, you can safely use the quiet mode of UAC."
    In my opinion, if you are an experienced user, the last thing you would want
    to do is turn off the UAC notification.

    If you 'are' an experienced user, then you would already know how to
    temporarily bypass the UAC prompt to perform just about any procedure in
    Vista, such as running programs from an elevated command prompt, or using an
    elevated instance of windows explorer.

    The last problem I have with this so-called 'quiet mode' is that it
    dissuades developers from programming their applications to run in a least
    user privilege environment.
    End Quote

    --
    All the best,
    SG

    Is your computer system ready for Vista?
    https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
     
    SG, Apr 19, 2008
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  17. rowanc88

    Wil Guest

    Personally I think there should be more of an annoyance for people who
    turn UAC off like it should change their wallpaper to bright red or
    something every time they boot windows.

    There is never a good reason to turn off UAC on a system that you use
    day to day.

    The only excuses I hear are as follows:

    * Oh the pop-up is so annoying so i turned it off.
    A: Sorry stop being lazy. It is 2008 time to take responsibility for
    your own security.

    * I am a power user so I don't need this kind of protection.
    A: This one always cracks me up. By turning off UAC you are proving
    you are actually a less experienced computer user then you think. UAC
    is not just an annoying pop-up. If anything it actually makes using
    your system easier. Without UAC you would have to right click
    executables and select run as then enter your admin account
    credentials. Would you rather doing that? Other option is to run
    everything as an Administrator but only inexperienced users do that.

    * I never had that problem before in XP why change now.
    A: Sure you never had problems before, doesn't make it any less stupid
    to do though. It is like saying I put a blind fold on and ran across a
    road and haven't been hit by a car yet. Sure you haven't had a problem
    yet, doesn't make it any less stupid though.

    The whole UAC thing is a perception. Most people think oh its an
    annoying dialogue, when yes it can be annoying but you should be
    thinking ok why does this program need admin rights. If you think it
    doesn't need them then click Deny then email the program vendor and
    tell them to fix their buggy program. If the program actually does
    need admin rights then click allow.
     
    Wil, Apr 19, 2008
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  18. rowanc88

    Mark Guest

    As I said before...
    Common sense goes a long way and with it, you need almost no protection.
    (How did we ever survive before UAC?)
    But, you will not convince the majority who become alarmist when you turn
    off the mandated or perceived need for lots of protection. For some reason,
    they seem to think that clicking a button stating Continue is protecting
    them from harm. Do they understand the warning? If they've decided to
    Continue after the first warning, do they need to read the same warning when
    it pops up for the third or fourth time for the same program start? Better
    yet, do they even read the message anymore? The only thing accomplished by
    UAC is the absolution of MS from damaging your computer... ...MS tried to
    warn you before krzpqtz.exe at 0x8007700b executed and YOU pressed Continue
    anyway.

    Enjoy your sense of security. Press Continue to end message.
     
    Mark, Apr 21, 2008
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  19. rowanc88

    SG Guest

    A second post by Ronnie Vernon MS MVP to Bob

    It's only annoying until you run into something unexpected. Right after
    Vista was first released, we went through all of the debates about users
    getting to the point where clicking on the prompt became an 'automatic'
    response.

    One user told us about a utility that he downloaded and installed and he got
    the expected 'security warning' about the file not having a digital
    signature. He clicked to run the file anyway and the utility installed. He
    then got a message to 'click here' to configure your personal settings. He
    then received this prompt.

    http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/rvmv/UACPrompt2.jpg

    Without UAC, he never would have been aware of the second file being
    installed, since he had already permitted the program to run. Needless to
    say, he decided that he would leave UAC on.

    Only in specific instances, such as an installation file that does not have
    a digital signature attached. The security warning does nothing to protect
    against 'drive-by' downloads that run automatically. Most of the smaller
    software developers will not bother with a digital signature, simply because
    it is time consuming and expensive for them.
    It's not about you deciding to run a program, it's about 'isolation', it's
    about 'integrity levels', it's about what background actions the program
    will take when you do run it. Have you ever wondered why an application,
    that does nothing more than make images look better, needs full and
    unrestricted access to every part of your computer?
    This is the whole point of UAC. The only way that a malicious program can be
    installed is if the user gets complacent and stops paying attention to what
    they are doing.

    When Vista is first installed, a user will typically see a ton of UAC
    prompts as they install all of their software programs and utilities, but
    these will gradually become more rare. Windows has to overcome almost twenty
    years of being a 'push button' operating system before it will attain any
    semblance of a 'secure' operating system. The education of users as well as
    developers will take some time. UAC and other security 'hardening'
    procedures are not going to 'go away'.

    When the majority of developers see the benefits, and start following the
    Microsoft developer guidelines for coding their programs and applications to
    run in a 'least user privilege' environment, UAC will become a prompt that
    is rarely seen. The vast majority of windows software should not even need
    to initiate a UAC prompt.

    Take a few minutes to read the following article. It will give you a better
    understanding, and show you the underlying reasons and goals of UAC.

    The Long-Term Impact of User Account Control:
    http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc137811.aspx
    EndQuote

    --
    All the best,
    SG

    Is your computer system ready for Vista?
    https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/
     
    SG, Apr 22, 2008
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  20. In Vista you can disable the UAC ( User Access Control ) from your Control
    Panel in the Account folder. However, this will disable this option for your
    whole machine, including the normal users that do not have administrator
    rights.

    You can disable this prompt window for administrators only by changing the
    following HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE with the RegEdit.exe program ( this change
    requires that RegEdit to be run as administrator ) :

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\System

    Thevalue of "ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin" must be 0 ( zero ).
    Value 0 = No prompt at all.
    Value 1 = Prompt that requires to enter an admistrator password(even if you
    are an administrator ).
    Value 2 = ( Default ). Prompt that requires an acceptance only.
    Note: Normal users will be asked to enter an administative password...

    Jean

    http://www.rayonline.com
    http://www.rayonline.com/jrinfo/faq.htm#q7
     
    Rayonline.com, Apr 22, 2008
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