How Do I Use TMPGEnc and DVR-Ripper

Discussion in 'Windows Media Center' started by Bob C., Aug 13, 2003.

  1. Bob C.

    Bob C. Guest

    I'm really new to all of this and am wanting to record a
    2 hour TV show with MCE and then burn it onto a dvd.
    Unfortunately, using MyDVD (which is what I own) will not
    work as the file is too large at BEST quality (which is
    what I prefer to record at). Someone on this newsgroup
    posted another option:

    "...you could extract the MPEG2 from a Highest-Quality MC-
    Recording
    using DVR-Ripper, and then re-encode it using a much more
    efficient (higher
    quality) encoder like TMPGEnc in 2-pass VBR mode.

    Then use a different DVD Authoring tool to burn the DVD
    (one that doesn't
    re-encode the audio to uncompressed=LARGE PCM format). I
    recommend either
    Ulead Movie Studio 2.0 or TMPGEnc DVD Author.

    The quality of your 2-hour DVD will be very very close to
    the quality of
    your original highest-quality DVR-MS recording."


    Does anyone know if there are any easy to use
    instructions for these programs posted anywhere on the
    Internet? Something like step by step procedures for a
    newbie like myself would be great.

    I also own Roxio's Easy CD and DVD Creator 6 and figured
    that after I use the DVR-Ripper and the TMPGEnc to re-
    encode it, I'd use Roxio to burn the dvd instead of MyDVD.

    Any help you can give me (and I'm sure many others) is
    GREATLY appreciated.

    Bob C.
     
    Bob C., Aug 13, 2003
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  2. Bob C.

    Dave Neff Guest

    Its not hard at all. Run DVR-MS ripper, and don't have it
    combine the video and audio files. Then run TMPGenc (the
    latest commercial version, not the free version). It has
    a project wizard that is pretty easy, and will even figure
    out the best average bit rate to fit it all on a single
    DVD. The new TMPGenc has a built in MPEG2 decoder that is
    better than the Ligos one in the HP MCE. The Ligos
    decoder sometimes gets confused with captures from the
    Emuzed card, but the decoder in TMPGenc is happy. TMPGenc
    comes with lots of help files.

    When you are done, you have a DVD MPEG2 file that Ulead is
    happy with. Lately, I've been running into some odd
    glitches with Ulead MovieStudio and starting to use
    TMPGenc DVD authoring program, which so far I am pretty
    happy with. Its a bit harder to use at first, but pretty
    flexible.

    But basically, just start doing it! But make your first
    DVDs on rewriteables until you get the process down right.

    Dave
     
    Dave Neff, Aug 13, 2003
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  3. Bob C.

    Bob C. Guest

    Dave,

    Thanks a bunch for your answer. You've helped me make
    sense of this more than anyone to date. I'm going to
    invest in the commercial version of TMPGenc now too. I
    don't have ULead, but I do own Roxio's Easy CD and DVD
    Creator 6. That should work to burn the dvd shouldn't it?

    Thanks again,

    Bob C.
     
    Bob C., Aug 14, 2003
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  4. Bob C.

    Bob Guest

    Minor Correction: The DVD authoring program must accept MPEG-1, Layer II
    audio -- not MPEG2 audio.

    I know that's what Dave meant. I just want to be sure that Bob C. gets it
    right.

    -Bob
     
    Bob, Aug 14, 2003
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  5. Bob C.

    Dave Neff Guest

    Thanks Bob. I was a bit vague :)

    I am hoping that soone TMPGenc will output AC3 audio. The
    web site says "does not currently". TMPG DVD Author will
    handle AC3 audio, unlike other low end authoring
    programs. AC3 should be most compatible with stand alone
    players. In my opinion, this is the only feature I care
    about that TMPGenc lacks.

    Presently, I've just played with AC3 a bit. The audio is
    no smaller than the MPEG-1 Layer II, and my stand alone
    player is happy with the MPEG audio. The way I have done
    it is to take the MPEG2 file from TMPGenc, run it through
    XMUXER, then use BeSweet to convert to AC3, and XMUXER it
    back. TMPGenc will accept an AC3 file as audio input, but
    will then convert it back to MPEG-1 Layer II (I would
    think, as you can edit the source range, and without an
    AC3 encoder it could not preserve the audio). Anyone else
    have an easier way to get MPEG2 files with AC3? This way
    is too much of a hassle, and so far hasn't been worth it.
    But for long term longevity of the stuff I am burning, I
    would think AC3 would be a better way to go. Any ideas?

    Dave
     
    Dave Neff, Aug 15, 2003
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  6. Bob C.

    MichaelDowns Guest

    If you capture 2 hours of video at the highest quality the resulting file is too big to fit on a DVD disc.

    PrimeTime is designed to be simple enough to use with the MCE remote control. It does not therefore allow options for complex
    operations.

    If you capture at best quality with files that are too large, you have to reduce the file size somehow to get them on a disc.
    Complex manual decoding and re-encoding will not improve the quality of your video. Not to mention it is time consuming and prone to
    error.

    The simplest, fastest way to get 2 hours of video on a disc is to make a smaller file to begin with. Just capture at a lower quality
    setting.


    Thanks,
    ++md++

    Michael Downs

    SONIC



    I'm really new to all of this and am wanting to record a
    2 hour TV show with MCE and then burn it onto a dvd.
    Unfortunately, using MyDVD (which is what I own) will not
    work as the file is too large at BEST quality (which is
    what I prefer to record at). Someone on this newsgroup
    posted another option:

    "...you could extract the MPEG2 from a Highest-Quality MC-
    Recording
    using DVR-Ripper, and then re-encode it using a much more
    efficient (higher
    quality) encoder like TMPGEnc in 2-pass VBR mode.

    Then use a different DVD Authoring tool to burn the DVD
    (one that doesn't
    re-encode the audio to uncompressed=LARGE PCM format). I
    recommend either
    Ulead Movie Studio 2.0 or TMPGEnc DVD Author.

    The quality of your 2-hour DVD will be very very close to
    the quality of
    your original highest-quality DVR-MS recording."


    Does anyone know if there are any easy to use
    instructions for these programs posted anywhere on the
    Internet? Something like step by step procedures for a
    newbie like myself would be great.

    I also own Roxio's Easy CD and DVD Creator 6 and figured
    that after I use the DVR-Ripper and the TMPGEnc to re-
    encode it, I'd use Roxio to burn the dvd instead of MyDVD.

    Any help you can give me (and I'm sure many others) is
    GREATLY appreciated.

    Bob C.
     
    MichaelDowns, Aug 19, 2003
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