How to enable streaming OGG, RM, MPC... with WMP9 once the codecs or DSFilters are installed?

Discussion in 'Windows Media Player' started by jestheonlyone, Sep 8, 2004.

  1. Hello

    I've installed codecs or DirectShow filters to play .ogg, .ra, .rm, .mpc and
    ..mov files with WMP9
    I've already found how to enable the file-open menu, drag & drop, etc...
    (HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\Extensions)
    It works fine for local files except that they cannot be added to the media
    library (but I don't really care)

    But I cannot play those files directly from the internet; I have to download
    them first (which is not always possible)

    Anyone has an idea to fix this?
     
    jestheonlyone, Sep 8, 2004
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  2. No idea how to solve your problem, but thats very cool - how did you
    get WMP to do real player and quicktime files ? That's quite common
    question - so do you have a step-by-step to repro adding these codecs?

    I suppose you could try to associate those file extensions in windows
    explorer, using the 'opens with' dialog, pick WMP, or go to (windows)
    explorer and pick Tools->Folder Options->File types and make sure that
    for .mov , .ra etc file extensions you click 'Change' and change the
    file association to WMP. If you need more control use 'Advanced'.

    It sounds like a surefire way to break your system, eventually though,
    when you do install quicktime or real player.

    Cheers - Neil
     
    Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media], Sep 8, 2004
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  3. * for .MPC files: Radlight MPC directShow filter
    The latest version is included with both versions of the Radlight player
    (commercial or ad-supported), which can be found at http://www.radlight.net/
    If you want a standalone version, here is an eMule link (this is an older
    version, but it works fine):
    ed2k://|file|Radlight.MPC.directShow.filter.exe|81016|8712A974EBEBFF908DE80E
    162C1576A6|/

    * for OggVorbis: OggVorbis DirectShow filter 0.995 (OggDS0995.exe)
    If can be downloaded at http://tobias.everwicked.com/oggds.htm
    I've just found (but not yet installed) another one: Illiminable Ogg
    DirectShow filters (oggcodecs_0.62.7673.zip), which is supposed to support
    streaming
    It can be downloaded at http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/

    * for Realmedia file: Real alternative 1.23 (realalt123.exe)
    It can be found at http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm (and
    elsewhere)

    * for Quicktime files: Quicktime alternative 1.33 (quicktimealt133.exe)
    It can be found at http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/finalbuilds.htm (and
    elsewhere)

    Both quicktimealt and realalt include the Media player classic. This is a
    small, simple, free and yet efficient player. Its installation is optional.

    Note: I do not recommend installing a mega codec pack, such a k-lite. I
    believe it's better to only install the latest versions of the codecs or
    filters that you really need.
    I have read somewhere that another codec pack which may be called tsunami,
    nimo or angel potion is known to cause big problems.

    For all the codecs listed above, to be able to open the corresponding files
    with WMP9, you will have to add the following STRING values in the Windows
    registry (for each file type):

    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\Extensions\Descriptions\[lastNumb
    er + 1] = Realmedia File (*.ra;*.rm;*.ram)
    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\Extensions\MUIDescriptions\[lastN
    umber + 1] = Realmedia File
    HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\Extensions\Types\[lastNumber + 1]
    = *.ra;*.rm;*.ram

    Additionaly, if you have first open one of these file types with the WMP
    control embedded in a web page or in another application, you may have to
    change or add the following DWORD values in the Windows registry (for each
    extension):

    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\Extensions\.ra\Permissions = 1
    HKCU\Software\Microsoft\MediaPlayer\Player\Extensions\.ra\Runtime = 1

    Note: I'm using WMP9. I don't know for other versions.
     
    jestheonlyone, Sep 8, 2004
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  4. http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/wmplay10/mmp_sdk/filenameextensionregistrysettings.asp

    I think you need to add the Permission=8 value for each extension.
    What do you mean by "play directly from the internet"?


    --

    Alessandro Angeli

    MVP::DigitalMedia

    a dot angeli at biosys dot net
     
    Alessandro Angeli [MVP::DigitalMedia], Sep 8, 2004
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  5. Thanks for this info.
    (For those who want to add their files in "All music" and not in "Other
    media", see also the next page)

    The Runtime value should be 6 or 7, but WMP9 sets it to 1 ?!?
    For all these file types, it works with Runtime = 1 or 7


    I mean playing a file while it is downloaded.

    If I click on a link to an mp3 file, it is played at once in WMP.
    If I click on a link to a realmedia file (or ogg, mpc...), it is downloaded
    to the temp folder, then played.
    If I open WMP and use the "File - Open URL" menu to open a realmedia file
    from the Internet I got an error message "0xC00D1199: Cannot play the file"
    Idem if I click on a link to a .m3u file with urls of those file types.

    If it's a small file, no problem, I download it... but if it's a radio
    stream....

    I don't want to install this f*ing real ad player!!!!!!!! or even winamp for
    these file types, radlight for these others, etc...
    There's a cool player with windows, I just want to use it for all my files
    (even if, for local files, I only use the WMP control, embedded in another
    application - which does not support streamed content).
     
    jestheonlyone, Sep 9, 2004
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  6. Please pay attention to the fact that both real alternative and qt
    alternative are illegal...
    About the extemsions you mentioned i think it's due to the way the filters
    are done... They are just player filters with no streaming support, not to
    mention they are not officially supported...

     
    Zarax [Digital Media MVP], Sep 9, 2004
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  7. I did not know; they are available on various web sites, including some
    "official" download sites (I will not say which ones, if these softwares are
    illegal), and easy to find with most of the major search engines
    At least the ogg and mpc stuff are not codecs but DirectShow filters. I
    don't know for quicktime and real...

    thanks for the infos
     
    jestheonlyone, Sep 9, 2004
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  8. I've just tested the oggcodecs from http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/ with the
    Addis live radio (http://www.addislive.com)
    At first, it seemed to work fine... but it always stop at the end of the 1st
    song.
    It's still in developpment, so I hope it will soon be fixed...
    I'm sending a mail to the author to let him know...
     
    jestheonlyone, Sep 9, 2004
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  9. bug with oggcodecs from http://www.illiminable.com/ogg/
    ----------------------------------------------------------

    The author says:

    [Multiplex chained streams ...] it's one of the things on the agenda for the
    next release or possibly the one after, depending on how hard it turns out
    to be...

    It's fairly easy to solve if you assume, that only files of the same type
    will be chained (which for the most part they are)... but i've been trying
    to think of how to do it for the general case. The ogg spec says any chains
    are legal... so in theory it's possible that stream plays a vorbis file,
    then chains a theora file after, which presents some problems.

    Keep an eye on the website for an update... could be this weekend as i have
    some spare time [...]
     
    jestheonlyone, Sep 11, 2004
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