How to upgrade MSN messenger 5.0 on Win NT 4.0 ?

Discussion in 'Windows MSN Messenger' started by Rik, Mar 18, 2009.

  1. Rik

    Rik Guest

    My company network still has number of workstations with Windows NT 4.0.
    They have all the latest available service packs and upgrades. On all of
    them is MSN Messenger Ver 5.0.0544. As far as I know, that is the latest
    available version that still works on Windows NT. They have worked without
    any problems until a few weeks ago. All of them now ask to be upgraded to
    newer version, and claim that there is a newer version. Login message is:

    "You must install newer version in order to continue"

    But, there is no newer version that I know of? If I follow upgrade prompt,
    they download some Messenger Live version which could not be installed. At
    some point of install, I get error message. If I remember correctly
    something like:

    bootstrap.exe ordinal not found
    the ordinal 730 could not be located in the dynamic link library shell32.dll

    What do I do now? Does that mean that from now on, no user of Win NT could
    reach any of their contacts any more?

    Rik
     
    Rik, Mar 18, 2009
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  2. Greetings Rik,

    This looks like a bug and wouldn't be the first time these older clients have been messed up.
    I've made some enquires to find out one way or another.

    I've modified the MSN Messenger 5.0 executable to lie to the service about it's version so
    you can login again. Obviously this probably isn't a great solution, but it's a workaround
    for now. Simply unzip the exe into the \Program Files\MSN Messenger folder and it will work:
    http://messenger.jonathankay.com/redir/msngr5verlie.asp

    --
    Jonathan Kay
    Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
    MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
    MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
    Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
    (c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
     
    Jonathan Kay [MVP], Mar 19, 2009
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  3. Rik

    Rik Guest


    Thank you for your effort. I can login now. We will have more tests
    tomorrow. Let us hope that your server will not send back some data
    formatted for messenger 8.1.

    If I may add something unrelated. It would be sad thing to completely
    abandon even unofficial support of Windows NT. It is a beautiful OS, steady
    as a rock. Some of my computers have been working for 10 years now. Most
    workstations do not need more than one business program, mail, and instant
    messenger client. No USB, no CD drive, no Internet browsing. With UPS for
    protection, they simply work, long time after everybody have forgotten about
    them, computer case buried under the old paper and boxes. No updates, no
    administrators, no hassle. That should be the ideal for all good, reliable
    software. It's a pity to completely abandon one that we already have.

    Rik
     
    Rik, Mar 20, 2009
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  4. Hi Rik,

    I've done more research since you reported this and it appears the problem is limited to NT4
    as Windows 95 clients (also stuck with 5.0) can still log in without any problem. That said,
    I'm pretty sure it's just an oversight whilst the latest updates were put in place. However,
    I've still yet to hear back officially one way or another.

    --
    Jonathan Kay
    Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
    MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
    MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
    Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
    (c) 2009 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
     
    Jonathan Kay [MVP], Mar 21, 2009
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  5. Rik

    Rik Guest

    I understand. These messages on Microsoft news server will son expire. Can
    you tell me where should I look later to find notice of eventual official
    resolution off this problem?

    Rik
     
    Rik, Mar 21, 2009
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