Hypothetical Question - maybe ;)

Discussion in 'Windows Vista General Discussion' started by Clark, Oct 9, 2006.

  1. Clark

    Clark Guest

    Let's just suppose that builds 5728 and 5744 were not actually in the main
    stream for the actual release version or Gold or RTM or whatever the retail
    release will be. What if they were released to check some very specific
    code for some very specific reason and were not part of the post 5600
    stream.

    Now we would have to believe 5600 was the actual final build prior to retail
    release. Would Microsoft update the 5600 installs through Windows Update to
    include the lessons learned, or would that be impossible?

    Clark
     
    Clark, Oct 9, 2006
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  2. Your hypothesis has merit, since consecutive build numbers may be from
    different branches. These branches may have started long before Beta 1, and
    may or may not be continued even now. There is no evidence (well, outside
    Microsoft, of course) that any one of the three builds you mention are
    directly related to each other or are parent builds of what will eventually
    be called RTM or Gold.
     
    Mark D. VandenBerg, Oct 10, 2006
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  3. MS now recommends using 5728 or 5744 for certification purposes (like Vista
    Logo). 5600 is dead. 5744 is the release candidate now and was not
    released for testing any special code or drivers. Your question is moot.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Oct 10, 2006
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  4. Clark

    Tom Ziegmann Guest

    Builds 5600, 5728, and 5744 come from different parts of the WinMain build
    tree. Build 5600 ended the "Beta 2" fork, and then any build that is 57xx is
    in the RTM fork of the build tree. That doesn't necessarily mean that the
    final RTM build will be in the 57xx number as MS has daily builds, etc.

    Most interim builds such as 5472, 5536, 5728 don't usually get code updates
    pushed down thru WU unless there is some major vulnerability that affects
    that build. Because build 5600 is RC1, MS does release different updates to
    users of RC1. Because 5728 and 5744 both already contain newer code than
    RC1, MS may or may not release updates for some of what is reported by users
    of the newer builds.
     
    Tom Ziegmann, Oct 10, 2006
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  5. Hey Colin;

    Haven't seen you around much. Have you had any resolution to the issues
    with your new system?

    Not to be obstinate, but is there some publicly available evidence that the
    particular build branch that begat 5600 has been severed, or is one of the
    two other builds (5728/5744) a direct descendant of 5600? I am not doubting
    what you have posted, but these are the types of things that intrigue me
    (the process, not the product... guess it's the engineer in me!).

    Mark
     
    Mark D. VandenBerg, Oct 10, 2006
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    Mike Guest

    Dumb question: how come build 5744 hasn't been released to MSDN?
     
    Mike, Oct 10, 2006
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  7. The resolution awaits a BIOS update by Asus, according to CyberPower. I am
    waiting for rev 305 to get out of beta.

    5744 is called a Milestone build by MS. It would is not possible to revert
    to 5600 and go forward again to achieve the release version since regression
    testing would have to start all over again. There is no point anyway.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Oct 10, 2006
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  8. It is due for release to MSDN and TechNet this week.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Oct 10, 2006
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  9. MS will likely round the build number up for rtm. They rounded up to 2600
    for XP. I think it is a good office pool item and I am betting on 6000
    because that would be nicely symmetrical with the fact that Vista and
    Longhorn Server are NT 6. Another good office pool item is the final name
    for Longhorn Server. My money is on Windows Server 2008 since I think it
    will rtm in second half of 2007.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Oct 10, 2006
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  10. Hope ASUS gets the BIOS straightened out for you.

    I was strongly leaning to Voodoo for my new notebook, even had it spec'd out
    but had not pulled the trigger, and then HP bought them... I guess I'm back
    to square one and now must decide between CyberPower and Falcon NW. I just
    am not ready to deal with HP/Dell/Gateway et. al. style "tech" support. I
    did just buy a new Panasonic W5 from Dynamism for short (less than a week)
    trips. Core Duo, 2 GB RAM, 120GB Drive, DVD-+RW, 11 hours battery and it
    weighs about 1 Kg. Too small for anything serious, though, but it sure is
    easy to pack!

    I understand what you mean about 5600. I was not aware that 5744 was
    released as a Milestone. Thanks for the information.
     
    Mark D. VandenBerg, Oct 10, 2006
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    Jeff Guest

    Colin;
    A little late to the numbers game!! LOL
    But; I bet you're on track, been saying that since 5384;6000=6; NT 6
    Welcome to the betting table!!! LOL

    Jeff
    STEP AWAY FROM THE P.C.- but leave your credit card!!! LOL :) :-O!
     
    Jeff, Oct 10, 2006
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    John Barnes Guest

    Thanks for the info. Since I just got RC1 and it is a real disappointment
    but no use doing much with a 'dead' system. Incidentally, after trying to
    upgrade beta2 (86) to RC1, unsuccessfully, the rollback left me with a
    system that is virtually useless also. Wife cannot even use it for surfing
    only, without constant freezing. Bummer.
     
    John Barnes, Oct 10, 2006
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    randy Guest

    Running RC1 Build 5600 also and very disapointed - running Win XP Pro on
    second machine and except for a few improvements, i.e., HD/partition
    management and new firewall, can not see what the fuss is all about. Built a
    new AM2 AMD 4200, with 512 DDR2 and over all performance of Vista is - SLOW!
    I.E. is slower in Vista - just takes for ever, while XP with IE & is smoking
    most of the time.

    Tks guys for all the useful info - I feel better knowing your concerns are
    similar.

    randy
     
    randy, Oct 10, 2006
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  14. I use an AMD x2 4400+ and have very snappy perf with Vista. However I have
    4GB of ram so the diff may be in the ram.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, Oct 10, 2006
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