I can't see other servers and workstations

Discussion in 'Server Networking' started by Edward, Apr 20, 2004.

  1. Edward

    Edward Guest

    Hello,

    When i click on 'entire network' and 'Microsoft Windows Network' i can't see
    other workstations in our network, sometimes it works, but mostly not. We
    have SBS2003 and windows 2000 servers + WindowXP clients.
    I think it has something to do with WINS, but i'm not sure.

    Please help me out.

    Kind regards,

    Edward
     
    Edward, Apr 20, 2004
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  2. The machines should be domain members and you want to be logged into the
    Domain and not logged in "locally" at the workstation,...in other words the
    third line of the login prompt must contain the domain name and not the
    local machine name.

    If all machines are in the same subnet then WINS is not needed, but it is
    still a good idea to have WINS running. If the Domain is healthy then DNS
    should be fine and all clients should contain that DNS Server in their
    network settings either statically or via DHCP.
     
    Phillip Windell, Apr 20, 2004
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  3. Edward

    Bill Grant Guest

    The Microsoft Windows Network display is driven by the computer browser
    service, and relies on Netbios names. Are any of the servers (particularly
    the SBS2003 which will be the domain master browser) multihomed or enabled
    for remote access? Do you see browser election messages in the event log?
     
    Bill Grant, Apr 21, 2004
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  4. Bill!

    I just discovered that I have a browsing issue here with Win98 machines that
    I can't figure out. Suddenly all Win98 clients can no longer see or browse
    the network. However manually typing the \\machinename in the address bar
    brings up the machine. This is preventing Outlook from finding Exchange on
    the Win98 machines since Outlook (except the most recent version) is Netbios
    based and requires Netbios to properly find the Exchange Server.

    I suspect it is the result of some stupid patch that came to the Servers via
    Automatic Updates.

    I have redundant, fully functional WINS and DNS Servers. NetBios over
    TCP/IP is enabled on the Servers. On the Win98 machine the box is checked
    but the whole thing is greyed out (may have always been that way, don't
    know).

    As I write this I am on hold with MS PSS listening to elevator music.
    Chances are you would see this and respond before I get off hold. Do you
    have any ideas?
     
    Phillip Windell, Apr 21, 2004
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  5. The patch mentioned in kb article 238853 took care of it even though the
    effected machines were in the same subnet.

    --

    Phillip Windell [MCP, MVP, CCNA]
    www.wandtv.com

     
    Phillip Windell, Apr 21, 2004
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  6. Edward

    Bill Grant Guest

    Glad it's working, but that seems a bit puzzling. Is there a server on the
    subnet which acts as the browse master, or is the browse master W9x?

    I'm in Sydney, so I am rarely online while you are at work. It's the
    middle of the night here!

     
    Bill Grant, Apr 22, 2004
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  7. Ah! Ok. Sorry about that. My cousin is in Kenya so I run into that with him
    too.

    The first domain controller with the PDC "role" is also the master browser
    and it in the same subnet as the Win98 client in this case. However after
    the "Automatic Updates" (using SUS) brought all the servers up to date with
    patches the win98 client would no longer recognise it as the Master Brower.
    The packet capture from the client was odd, it was like on one hand it
    recognized it as the browser yet tried to become the Browser itself at the
    same time,...the packet capture just didn't make much sense. So after the
    238853 patch it started working right. The patch was some kind of Win98 SP2
    related thing.
     
    Phillip Windell, Apr 22, 2004
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  8. Edward

    Bill Grant Guest

    Thanks. Something to bear in mind!

     
    Bill Grant, Apr 24, 2004
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