I give up on Vista! Going back to XP.

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Help' started by des, May 19, 2008.

  1. ....uh...I don't get it, am I supposed to care what you think or
    something? *shrugs* Sorry, but I really haven't the bother to
    "prove" anything to some...nothing, liak yerself. You GROSSLY
    over-estimate your importance to me. *nods*

    --

    Onideus Mad Hatter
    mhm ¹ x ¹
    http://www.backwater-productions.net
    http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


    Hatter Quotes
    -------------
    "Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

    "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
    best."

    "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
    with it."

    "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

    "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

    "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

    "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
    bad."

    "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

    "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

    "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
    of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

    "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
    that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
    of its relevancy."

    "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
    creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

    "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

    "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
    they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
    givin em out for free."

    "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
    So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
    to their merry little mess."

    "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
    horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
    their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
    sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
    images burned into their tiny little minds'."

    "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
    properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

    "Those who record history are those who control history."

    "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
    endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
    don't get sent to me...I come for you."

    "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
    tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

    "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
    function?"

    "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
    Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
    indicates an increase in Webtv users."

    "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
    gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
     
    Onideus Mad Hatter, Jun 2, 2008
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  2. The only "old" computers I've got are a few classic machines I've
    cleaned up and restored. I've got a Commodore 64, an old Kaypro
    "luggable", a blue one. I used to have a gray one too but I sold it
    to some guy for liak $50 bucks back in 1997. And I also have an IBM
    PC Jr. I used to also have a Apple IIc, but the damn thing was ALWAYS
    having problems and I had to keep a whole drawer of spare parts for it
    and swap em around every now and again to get it to work. Sometimes
    banging it real hard would get it to come back on. *nods* Anywho, I
    finally sold that stupid bitch off cause it was more trouble than it
    was worth.

    I've also got two of those Commodore monitors, which were liak the
    best monitors for the longest time because they have RCA video jacks
    on them so they can easily double as a small television. Before I did
    digital video editing I used to have the two Commodore monitors side
    by side hooked up to this old splicer/recorder. Basically it was just
    two VCRs and you could take footage from one tape and record it to a
    specific part onto another tape...it didn't always work so good
    though. Okay for SIMPLE cut scenes and such, but if you tried making
    say an anime music video...yeah, it was impossible to match the
    animation to the beats of the music.

    I do have a lot of old and semi-old components. Just last week I
    picked up a couple of 2.4 Ghz Xeon processors for only $25 from some
    n00b job who didn't comprehend what they were. I've even still got a
    few old 40 megabyte drives and even a couple "cinder block" drives,
    which hold a "whopping" FIVE HUNDRED...megabytes. LOL I remember
    back in 1996 that was REALLY a lot of space, liak I remember bragging
    to people about it. That along with my 486 DX2 computer with a whole
    EIGHT MEGABYTES of memory!

    Back in 1999 I picked up a whole freakin BAG of slim-line one megabyte
    SIMMs for liak five bucks (a real good deal back then, even though
    they were already technically outdated). Then around 2002 it suddenly
    occurred to me that I could put key rings on the little hole they have
    on their ends and then sell them to techie people I know as key
    chains. Only it turned out non-techie people I knew wanted them moar
    and I wound up selling out of them real quick. I regret not charging
    more, I think I sold 'em for liak a buck or two when I could have
    easily charged five. I've been thinkin about seeing if I can't buy
    another bag of 'em, possible several dozen bags, and then maybe
    selling them via my Backwater site.

    --

    Onideus Mad Hatter
    mhm ¹ x ¹
    http://www.backwater-productions.net
    http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


    Hatter Quotes
    -------------
    "Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

    "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
    best."

    "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
    with it."

    "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

    "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

    "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

    "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
    bad."

    "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

    "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

    "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
    of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

    "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
    that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
    of its relevancy."

    "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
    creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

    "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

    "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
    they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
    givin em out for free."

    "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
    So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
    to their merry little mess."

    "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
    horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
    their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
    sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
    images burned into their tiny little minds'."

    "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
    properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

    "Those who record history are those who control history."

    "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
    endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
    don't get sent to me...I come for you."

    "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
    tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

    "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
    function?"

    "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
    Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
    indicates an increase in Webtv users."

    "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
    gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
     
    Onideus Mad Hatter, Jun 2, 2008
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  3. No, REALLY?!

    Free cl00, dipshit, I'm one of the first people to have ever built a
    "hydra cluster" as I call it. Basically using bootable Linux CDs
    setup for symmetric multiprocessing. So the more of them you pop into
    systems on a network and restart (they were auto loading/configuring)
    then the moar "heads" the "hydra" would have. And liak a hydra
    cutting off one of its heads wouldn't kill the rest of the beast, it'd
    just keep going.

    I also "took" a few Linux classes in college...and by "took" I mean I
    came in for the tests, the midterm and the final. The instructor let
    me get off from doing any homework crap if I promised to help some of
    the...slower students, by tutoring them. I got straight As in all of
    my CT and DT classes.

    --

    Onideus Mad Hatter
    mhm ¹ x ¹
    http://www.backwater-productions.net
    http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


    Hatter Quotes
    -------------
    "Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

    "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
    best."

    "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
    with it."

    "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

    "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

    "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

    "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
    bad."

    "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

    "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

    "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
    of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

    "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
    that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
    of its relevancy."

    "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
    creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

    "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

    "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
    they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
    givin em out for free."

    "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
    So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
    to their merry little mess."

    "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
    horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
    their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
    sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
    images burned into their tiny little minds'."

    "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
    properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

    "Those who record history are those who control history."

    "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
    endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
    don't get sent to me...I come for you."

    "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
    tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

    "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
    function?"

    "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
    Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
    indicates an increase in Webtv users."

    "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
    gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
     
    Onideus Mad Hatter, Jun 2, 2008
  4. des

    PerfectReign Guest


    Now, that's a much better answer, hatter.

    I appreciate that.
     
    PerfectReign, Jun 2, 2008
  5. des

    Lim-Dul Guest

    Yes, and I agree with that completely and yet again re-state that all my
    specialized computers like routers/fileservers and printesrvers are
    running on Linux. There's a place for both Linux and Windows on this
    planet BUT I don't think these systems overlap as much or are as much a
    competition to each other as some people might think.

    I mean - Unix, or more generally Unix-like systems, exists since 1969
    and although it has been altered or rewritten many times over it is
    still based on the same, almost 40-year old concept. I don't deny that
    old things might still be good, especially given the evolution Unix-like
    systems have gone through BUT if it really were that brilliant an OS for
    desktops then it would have probably taken more than ~1% of the total
    desktop marketshare by now, wouldn't you agree?

    It would take more than that to topple the dominance of Windows on
    desktop computers - we need a revolution (and preferably one that is
    compatible with Windows executables =), not evolution. Perhaps ReactOS?

    I'm all for something new to arrive - a stable, fast and user-friendly
    (<-- stress on that one) OS - who doesn't want such a thing?

    However, Unix-likes are currently not a really compelling alternative in
    THIS particular market segment. I mean - will you EVER regard an OS that
    uses the "concatenate" command as the preferred method of displaying
    file contents (even for single files) as intuitive and user-friendly?

    Best regards,

    Lim-Dul
     
    Lim-Dul, Jun 2, 2008
  6. des

    Lim-Dul Guest

    LOL! DOS applications critical to your business?
    I would seriously rethink your business if you have any DOS applications
    that are critical for its operation. ;-)

    Besides - talking about backwards compatibility when it comes to DOS and
    current Windows releases is kind of retarded since you can't even talk
    about backwards compatibility in that case. DOS and Windows are
    COMPLETELY different OS-es and Win 3.11 was no more an OS than KDE is
    one. Win9X used DOS components for boot-strapping but again had
    internally almost nothing in common with the NT line that is partially
    based on the VMS kernel and you would know that if you didn't judge a
    system by the pretty windows it shows but by its inner workings.

    Best regards,

    Lim-Dul

    P.S. Coal is absolutely critical to my business since I don't want to
    upgrade my old oven to an electrical one and the former isn't compatible
    with electricity! Talk about backwards compatibility. ;-)
     
    Lim-Dul, Jun 2, 2008
  7. Which models run BeOS?
     
    Rev Turd Fredericks, Jun 3, 2008
  8. Thanks. Unfortunately, my laptops aren't on there. I wonder if I can
    make a VMware virtual machine with BeOS :)
     
    Rev Turd Fredericks, Jun 4, 2008
  9. Piggybacking my own post>>>

    Yes! I downloaded and ran haiku as a virtual machine. Unfortunately, it
    didn't have any software, and I couldn't get network connectivity
    (although I should be able to get it, I'll have another look when I have
    more time). It was a walk down memory lane though :) I'll check again
    in a few months and see how the development is working out for them.
     
    Rev Turd Fredericks, Jun 4, 2008
  10. ....wait, reading for you is a BOTHER?!

    Oh you are such a sad little pathetic. `, \

    Honestly, if I were as fuckwitted as you I would probably kill myself
    rather than continue to perpetuate idiocy.

    --

    Onideus Mad Hatter
    mhm ¹ x ¹
    http://www.backwater-productions.net
    http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


    Hatter Quotes
    -------------
    "Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

    "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
    best."

    "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
    with it."

    "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

    "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

    "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

    "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
    bad."

    "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

    "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

    "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
    of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

    "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
    that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
    of its relevancy."

    "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
    creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

    "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

    "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
    they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
    givin em out for free."

    "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
    So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
    to their merry little mess."

    "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
    horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
    their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
    sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
    images burned into their tiny little minds'."

    "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
    properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

    "Those who record history are those who control history."

    "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
    endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
    don't get sent to me...I come for you."

    "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
    tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

    "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
    function?"

    "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
    Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
    indicates an increase in Webtv users."

    "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
    gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
     
    Onideus Mad Hatter, Jun 4, 2008
  11. Um...no offense or anything, but you REAAAALLY have no fucking clue as
    to how the world works. There are literarily hundreds of THOUSANDS of
    integrated systems all throughout just the United States alone that
    rely on what most would define as "antiquated" computing equipment.
    You can actually make a LOT of money in the repair business by knowing
    how to fix and repair real old equipment. Not all businesses have the
    funds to replace 2,000+ computers all in one afternoon, so even
    businesses that do upgrade often upgrade in sections, meaning that
    they will often always have sections that still rely on really old
    "outdated" equipment.

    If it works though and if it does what they need it to do, well, most
    don't really consider that to be running "outdated" equipment so much
    as saving a butt load of money by not buying moar computing power than
    they actually need.

    I've seen some dumbfuck small business owners who go out and spend
    THOUSANDS of dollars on brand new, high end computer equipment when
    most of their computing needs don't extend much farther than running
    MS Word and Solitaire.

    --

    Onideus Mad Hatter
    mhm ¹ x ¹
    http://www.backwater-productions.net
    http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


    Hatter Quotes
    -------------
    "Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

    "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
    best."

    "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
    with it."

    "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

    "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

    "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

    "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
    bad."

    "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

    "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

    "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
    of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

    "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
    that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
    of its relevancy."

    "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
    creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

    "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

    "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
    they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
    givin em out for free."

    "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
    So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
    to their merry little mess."

    "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
    horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
    their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
    sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
    images burned into their tiny little minds'."

    "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
    properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

    "Those who record history are those who control history."

    "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
    endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
    don't get sent to me...I come for you."

    "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
    tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

    "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
    function?"

    "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
    Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
    indicates an increase in Webtv users."

    "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
    gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
     
    Onideus Mad Hatter, Jun 4, 2008
  12. Thanks Captain Obvious! DUN DUN DUN DUN!

    *rolls eyes*

    --

    Onideus Mad Hatter
    mhm ¹ x ¹
    http://www.backwater-productions.net
    http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


    Hatter Quotes
    -------------
    "Don't ever **** with someone who has more creativity than you do."

    "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
    best."

    "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
    with it."

    "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

    "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

    "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the **** up!"

    "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
    bad."

    "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

    "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

    "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
    of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

    "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
    that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
    of its relevancy."

    "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
    creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

    "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

    "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
    they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
    givin em out for free."

    "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
    So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
    to their merry little mess."

    "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
    horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
    their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
    sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
    images burned into their tiny little minds'."

    "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
    properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

    "Those who record history are those who control history."

    "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
    endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
    don't get sent to me...I come for you."

    "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
    tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

    "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
    function?"

    "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
    Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
    indicates an increase in Webtv users."

    "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
    gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )
     
    Onideus Mad Hatter, Jun 4, 2008
  13. Yeah, I was looking last night. I should just make a VM from my BeOs
    disks though. I had a lot of programs for it. Do the old BeOs programs
    run on Haiku?
     
    Rev Turd Fredericks, Jun 5, 2008
  14. des

    Josh S Guest

    Unfortunately for MS many are not even going to Vista.

    I ate lunch today with a friend who is a PC consultant and has been in
    the business many years. He currently guides a smaller businesses IT
    department.
    He told me the new PCs they now get have an XP disk shipped with them,
    which they use to replace the preinstalled Vista with XP.
    (Of course MS counts all preinstalled Vistas as a Vista sale, even
    though many businesses restore XP over it.)

    He has been investigating the task of converting the business over to
    Vista, but because of significant problems with Vista he has decided
    to stick with XP. He didn't want to even discuss the details of those
    problems, he has had enough of Vista. >:)
     
    Josh S, Jun 8, 2008
  15. des

    PerfectReign Guest


    I just ordered 150 new XP machines last week.
     
    PerfectReign, Jun 8, 2008
  16. des

    PerfectReign Guest

    You like it?? :p
     
    PerfectReign, Jun 8, 2008
  17. des

    PerfectReign Guest

    I think there's something more going on today.

    I fired up my openSUSE laptop and it decided today was the day to do a
    checkdisk. I had to wait a fucking half hour before it would boot. (Don't
    tell me to cancel, because that fucks up all sorts of things then i have to
    anyway.)

    Then I remote into my Vista machine at work to get some shit done. I fire up
    outlook and it bombs on me three times. I get the White Screen of Death.

    Then I fire up Word 2003 and it dies as well.

    Grr....
     
    PerfectReign, Jun 8, 2008
  18. des

    Art Deco Guest

    The Parallels window is especially nice -- when Windows is hosed, you
    simply trash its disk file with a pristine copy and you are instantly
    back in business.
     
    Art Deco, Jun 8, 2008
  19. des

    FrozenNorth Guest

    Don't buy a new Intel Mac then, there is no Mac Classic environment, OSX
    10.6 coming soon, being announced Monday is going to end support for the
    PowerPC processors as well.
     
    FrozenNorth, Jun 8, 2008
  20. des

    Peter J Ross Guest

    Peter J Ross, Jun 8, 2008
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