IE7's crap layout vs. IE6's fully customizable layout

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by TheBoss, Nov 17, 2006.

  1. TheBoss

    TheBoss Guest

    In IE6 I was able to customize my layout of the toolbars and buttons.
    In IE7 I am restricted / limited in what I can manipulate.
    In IE6 I was able to unlock toolbars and move them however I wanted.
    In IE7 I unlock toolbars and I can't move a damn thing!!! Is this some sorta
    MS Joke?
    In IE6 my Favorites list opens and closes in a locked state, which I prefer.
    In IE7 my Favorites list floats, requiring yet another step to lock it, and
    if i close it and open it again, i must re-lock the list, so it doesn't
    float. I don't like the floating Favorites
    In IE7 I don't like the fact that opening the Favorites, moves the other
    buttons all the way to the right side of my screen, this jumping buttons idea
    is another joke?

    My suggestion is this....
    Pay Attention Microsoft....
    In Windows XP, you made it so that if we didn't like your new GUI, we are
    able to shut off all of XP's new stylings, and make it look exactly like the
    prior version of Windows OS. MAKE INTERNET EXPLORER THE SAME WAY!!!! If you
    ask me, Do I want IE7, I don't! What I do want is, Extra Security, Maybe some
    nice pretty icons, but DONT FORCE YOUR LAYOUT OF BUTTONS, TOOLBARS, ETC. ON
    US!!! I'd rather layout all of my buttons and toolbars MYSELF!!! And DONT
    Tell me to use that lame program AVANT to mimic IE6, BUILD IE RIGHT, or DONT
    BUILD IT AT ALL!
    I want an Official IE6 style of IE7 by Microsoft. I want to be able to do
    everything I was able to do in IE6, regarding toolbars, and buttons, and
    Favorites list behavior (NO FLOATING FAV. LIST)
    In IE7 I also don't like the Search Bar. I want to be able to get rid of
    that also.
    In IE7 I don't see the need for Favorites Center to appear, when I've set
    IE7 to show ICONS ONLY. Also, there is no need to have the word Favorites
    appear AGAIN just below.


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    TheBoss, Nov 17, 2006
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    klyn5 Guest

    I absolutely despise IE7. I want my IE6 back. I can't believe how
    unfriendly this is for the user. My husband about had a fit trying to find
    the History button, Favorites, etc. And I can't get rid of those tabs. I
    don't want them there. I want to be able to have my bar with the Home,
    Refresh, History, Favorites, etc. Help! Microsoft, give us back IE6!
     
    klyn5, Nov 17, 2006
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    rocky Guest

    If you are resistant to change and want everything exactly the same way it
    was in IE6, then just uninstall IE7 and then you will have IE6 back just like
    it was before. Go to Start-->Control Panel-->Add or Remove
    Programs-->Windows Internet Explorer 7-->Remove.
     
    rocky, Nov 17, 2006
    #3
  4. No where did I read she was resistant to change. Those are YOUR words -
    used in an attempt to belittle while hoping they will assist you in
    winning an argument that you can't win on the merits.
     
    Dr. Heywood Floyd, Nov 17, 2006
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  5. TheBoss

    rocky Guest

    Um, no. She doesn't want tabs and wants every button in the same position as
    in IE6. The menu items are logically placed in IE7. The History button
    under the Back/Forward drop-down, the Find on this Page button under the
    magnifying glass, etc. If having a fit because menu items have been moved to
    a more logical place than IE6 isn't resistance to change, I don't know what
    is.
     
    rocky, Nov 17, 2006
    #5
  6. Uninstall Windows Internet Explorer 7 from Control Panel | Add or Remove
    Programs.
     
    Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM, Nov 17, 2006
    #6
  7. I warmly second your excellent post. Unfortunately it is of no use for people that too much success has entrenched into blind arrogance. They remain unable to see:

    - that (if following users' real world experience reports more than MVPs' theoretical pre-learnt statements) "Add/Remove programs" most often restores IE6 with only part of its features working properly;
    - that the way buttons are "logically placed" in IE7 is just one way of thinking among plenty others;
    - that users have plenty different various and much better "logics" to design and arrange buttons;
    - that refusing to user to change the button arrangement is a true "resistance to change", and a much worse than resisting to the removing of the ability to rearrange these buttons;
    - that more generally, MS staff mostly are way *behind* average users concerning the amount of time, pain, care, intelligence, devoted to using, maintaining and fixing MS software.

    Unfortunately history has taught us that a big company or organization pulled into the process (from success to failure) will never see or realize or admit it until it is way too late. On the Titanic, some were still rearranging the chairs and chosing the music when the ship was sinking. MS hasn't hit the iceberg yet, and is still running full speed full steam, not listening to the warnings. Just wait for next.

    Paris, Sun 19 Nov 2006 18:20:10 +0100


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    No where did I read she was resistant to change. Those are YOUR words - used in an attempt to belittle while hoping they will assist you in winning an argument that you can't win on the merits.


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    Subject: RE: IE7's crap layout vs. IE6's fully customizable layout

    If you are resistant to change and want everything exactly the same way it was in IE6, then just uninstall IE7 and then you will have IE6 back just like it was before. Go to Start-->Control Panel-->Add or Remove Programs-->Windows Internet Explorer 7-->Remove.


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    Subject: RE: IE7's crap layout vs. IE6's fully customizable layout

    I absolutely despise IE7. I want my IE6 back. I can't believe how unfriendly this is for the user. My husband about had a fit trying to find the History button, Favorites, etc. And I can't get rid of those tabs. I don't want them there. I want to be able to have my bar with the Home, Refresh, History, Favorites, etc. Help! Microsoft, give us back IE6!


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    Sent: Thu 16 Nov 2006 16:29:01 -0800 (Fri 17 Nov 00:29:01 GMT)
    Subject: IE7's crap layout vs. IE6's fully customizable layout

    In IE6 I was able to customize my layout of the toolbars and buttons.
    In IE7 I am restricted / limited in what I can manipulate.

    In IE6 I was able to unlock toolbars and move them however I wanted.
    In IE7 I unlock toolbars and I can't move a damn thing!!! Is this some sorta MS Joke?

    In IE6 my Favorites list opens and closes in a locked state, which I prefer.
    In IE7 my Favorites list floats, requiring yet another step to lock it, and if i close it and open it again, i must re-lock the list, so it doesn't float. I don't like the floating Favorites

    In IE7 I don't like the fact that opening the Favorites, moves the other buttons all the way to the right side of my screen, this jumping buttons idea is another joke?

    My suggestion is this....
    Pay Attention Microsoft....
    In Windows XP, you made it so that if we didn't like your new GUI, we are able to shut off all of XP's new stylings, and make it look exactly like the prior version of Windows OS. MAKE INTERNET EXPLORER THE SAME WAY!!!! If you ask me, Do I want IE7, I don't! What I do want is, Extra Security, Maybe some nice pretty icons, but DONT FORCE YOUR LAYOUT OF BUTTONS, TOOLBARS, ETC. ON US!!! I'd rather layout all of my buttons and toolbars MYSELF!!! And DONT Tell me to use that lame program AVANT to mimic IE6, BUILD IE RIGHT, or DONT BUILD IT AT ALL!

    I want an Official IE6 style of IE7 by Microsoft. I want to be able to do everything I was able to do in IE6, regarding toolbars, and buttons, and Favorites list behavior (NO FLOATING FAV. LIST)
    In IE7 I also don't like the Search Bar. I want to be able to get rid of that also.
    In IE7 I don't see the need for Favorites Center to appear, when I've set IE7 to show ICONS ONLY. Also, there is no need to have the word Favorites appear AGAIN just below.
     
    Michel Merlin, Nov 19, 2006
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  8. TheBoss

    John Smith Guest

     
    John Smith, Jan 21, 2007
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  9. TheBoss

    John Smith Guest

    IE7 is truly a piece of #hit compared to IE6, which I had set up just the way
    I wanted. I don't think the kiddies on the IE7 team have any concept of the
    fact that THEY BETTER NOT MESS WITH MY ABILITY TO CUSTOMIZE MY SCREEN!
    STUPID BEYOND COMPREHENSION! IDIOTS! MORONS! AHOLES, even!
     
    John Smith, Jan 21, 2007
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  10. Le Sun, 21 Jan 2007 00:51:01 -0800, John Smith a caressé son clavier pour
    nous dire ce qui suit :
    Did you ever try Firefox ?
    http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/
    You will have the browser YOU want !
     
    Michel Doucet, Jan 21, 2007
    #10
  11. TheBoss

    John Smith Guest

    Never. I'll have to do that. Thanks.

     
    John Smith, Jan 21, 2007
    #11
  12. Look here: http://osterud.name/firefox.html

    And see how customizable Firefox can be.

    It's even better than IE6, and I had never found out if MX hadn't
    pushed IE7. So actually MS was the reason I discovered Firefox
     
    Lars-Erik Østerud, Jan 21, 2007
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