ie8 problems

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by jedab, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. jedab

    jedab Guest

    i and all of my friends have this problem.
    ie8 with windows 7.
    ie8 cant handle multiple pages or tabs...by this i mean....
    when i have multiple ie windows OR tabs running, SOME of them suddenly seems
    to NOT load but if i copy the address from the not responsive window or tab
    and paste it into the original window, ie8 loads the page.
    im not a computer idiot, so spare me the usual add-ons and av and malware
    and spyware bs.
    also on LOTS of sites (but never msn or other microsoft web pages /sites)
    ie8 takes FOREVER to load a page if it loads at all. its most noticable with
    facebook and new york times and filehippo and adobe to name a few. being
    slow to load also doesnt happen ALL the time, but it happens all the time
    with not responding with multiple tabs and / or multiple windows starting
    with the 3rd tab or window. it clears up when i close ie and then open it
    again, but then multiple "instances" (correct term?) cause the problem all
    over again
     
    jedab, Dec 27, 2009
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  2. jedab

    Leonard Grey Guest

    I and all my friends don't have that problem.

    Since you're unwilling to perform the troubleshooting ("...spare me the
    usual add-ons and av and malware and spyware bs...") good luck to you.
     
    Leonard Grey, Dec 27, 2009
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  3. jedab

    jedab Guest

    by the way...ive done troubleshooting for ie using the internet explorer
    performance troubleshooter and there are no issues present
     
    jedab, Dec 27, 2009
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  4. jedab

    jedab Guest

    i see YOU'RE unwilling to perfom reading the second post, so good luck to you
     
    jedab, Dec 27, 2009
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  5. jedab

    Gordon Guest

    Do you think Leonard is a mind reader? His reply was posted some EIGHT
    minutes BEFORE you posted your second post.
    Idiot.
     
    Gordon, Dec 27, 2009
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  6. jedab

    Don Varnau Guest

    Hi,
    1. Have you tried a reset of IE settings? Have you cleared the Temporary
    Internet Files? (Those weren't in the "spare me" list.)
    2. Do you occasionally close *all* IE windows? Do you occasionally restart
    the computer? (Many users depend on Sleep or Hibernate and try to avoid
    shutdowns.)
    3. If running 32-bit Win7, try downloading, unzipping and running
    ie8-rereg.zip from
    http://iefaq.info/index.php?action=artikel&cat=42&id=133&artlang=en

    If running 64-bit Win7, try the script/bat file by OnyXxl in this thread:
    http://social.answers.microsoft.com...r/thread/e312e580-1cbc-496b-8c6b-b69b8535a7bb

    Hope this helps,
    Don
    [MS MVP- IE]
     
    Don Varnau, Dec 27, 2009
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  7. jedab

    jedab Guest

    no...his reply was 30 minutes AFTER my second post, and around 20 minutes
    before my third post so i guess YOURE the idiot.
    next time read the posts IN ORDER
     
    jedab, Dec 27, 2009
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  8. jedab

    jedab Guest

    i have tried EVERYTHING except ie8-rereg.zip.
    i CONSTANTLY close ALL ie windows and even re-start windows more than once a
    day...i do not permit sleep or hibernate and i even remove the hiber.fil by
    doing the following:
    Click Start, and then type cmd in the Start Search box.
    In the search results list, right-click Command Prompt or Cmd, and then
    click Run as Administrator on the pop up contextual menu.
    If you are prompted by User Account Control for permission, click Continue.
    At the command prompt, type the following command, and then press ENTER:
    powercfg.exe -h off

    Type exit, and then press ENTER.

    as i said...i am not a computer idiot even tho i admit to being far from a
    computer expert, but i am the one everyone i know comes to to help solve
    problems and this is the first time since windows millennium that i have
    spent so much time trying to resolve an issue and so far havent resolved
    anything.
    thank you for the link, i am sure gonna go get that right now.
    thank you so much Don for taking the time to read and be of help.
    jerry

     
    jedab, Dec 27, 2009
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  9. jedab

    jedab Guest

    just in case anyone reads this thread, i guess one would need to know
    also...this ie8 thing has been a problem for around a year now...giving me
    PLENTY of time to try EVERYTHING over and over and over again, including
    formatting the hard drive and re-installing windows all over again, and i
    always have this problem from "day one" and its a problem for me on windows 7
    beta...rc...rtm...and the retail version i actually bought as well as an
    issue on friends computers running xp, xp pro and vista...so i am inclined to
    say its an ie8 issue. the winxp computers and the windows vista computers
    have 1.5 gigs of ram and the win7 computers have 3 gigs of ram.
    this is why i came here with this problem and thank you to the 2 ppl who
    tried to be of help, gordon and rob, thank you so much.
     
    jedab, Dec 27, 2009
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  10. jedab

    jedab Guest

    oops...i meant to thank DON and rob for their help
     
    jedab, Dec 27, 2009
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  11. Uh-huh...

    And you're all running Win7?

    Are you all running Win7 64-bit?

    Did you upgrade to Win7 or are these all brand-new computers with Win7
    preinstalled?

    What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
    subscription current, and is it supported in Win7? What anti-spyware
    applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
    Were any of these applications running in the background when you installed
    ___?

    Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
    machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
    it)?

    Does the behavior persist if you start IE8 in No Add-ons mode and/or do a
    Reset?
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Dec 28, 2009
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  12. If it's an IE8 issue, why are millions of IE8 users NOT having these
    problems?
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Dec 28, 2009
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  13. jedab

    rob^_^ Guest

    Hi je,

    Looking at the thread and from my own experience.

    1. The majority of IE8 problems (all OS versions) are caused by incompatible
    Addons.

    You have already tried the no-Addons troubleshooting.

    Ok.

    Next have a look at your Windows Startup list (Start>Run>msconfig - Statup
    tab) (there are some 'IE' addons that are launched from here but do not
    appear in IE's Addons list... they hijack IE's open connections to call home
    to check for updates and this CAN look like a malware attack to IE8 on
    XPSP3, Vista and Win7). The symptoms of this is random new tab crashing.
    Random because the call home instructions are triggered by different
    settings (weekly, monthly, if last check failed etc).

    Disable any AOL Updates (AOL LLC), Quicktime Updates, Google Updates, Search
    Protection (Yahoo Inc), and the Gmail Notifier (if present).
    (AOL and Quicktime software have settings to enable/disable automatic
    updates in their respective Control Panels (Settings Dialogs).

    ***** If you have a program in the startup list called the
    GoogleToolbarUpdater.exe then

    You have an old (one off) version of the GTB. Uninstall it, then restart
    your computer (!important). You can download version 6 from
    toolbar.google.com

    (The above is not an exhaustive list, you may have other software in your
    startup list that shares IE's connections for update check purposes (or
    other evil purposes)).

    I suspect also since you have turned off Hibernation that some update
    software is firing off when your machine is idle, showing errors again when
    you resume the screen.

    2. Don's suggested fix
    If running 32-bit Win7, try downloading, unzipping and running
    ie8-rereg.zip from
    http://iefaq.info/index.php?action=artikel&cat=42&id=133&artlang=en

    Re-registers ALL of IE8's components and is currently being recommended for
    some issues that have arisen with OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturers...
    Dell, Susus etc) builds of Win7 (we think?). I am not sure if that fits your
    symptoms (all your disks/builds are MS Genuine/originals), but it will not
    hurt to run it and to keep it handy if problems occur in the future.

    Sitting here now, and reflecting.... my gut feeling is that Ans. #1 will be
    your salvation.

    Regards.
     
    rob^_^, Dec 28, 2009
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  14. jedab

    jedab Guest

    i have NON of the following happenning...
    Next have a look at your Windows Startup list (Start>Run>msconfig - Statup
    tab) (there are some 'IE' addons that are launched from here but do not
    appear in IE's Addons list... they hijack IE's open connections to call home
    to check for updates and this CAN look like a malware attack to IE8 on
    XPSP3, Vista and Win7). The symptoms of this is random new tab crashing.
    Random because the call home instructions are triggered by different
    settings (weekly, monthly, if last check failed etc).

    Disable any AOL Updates (AOL LLC), Quicktime Updates, Google Updates, Search
    Protection (Yahoo Inc), and the Gmail Notifier (if present).
    (AOL and Quicktime software have settings to enable/disable automatic
    updates in their respective Control Panels (Settings Dialogs).
    aol is on ONLY ONE of the computers...i dont allow ANY automatic
    updates...not even windows....i check for updates daily and i dont have
    anything yahoo or google on any machine.

    the troubleshooter says no issues present and i get this problem before i
    even install flash or quicktime or ANYTHING...

    the machines are 32 bit....
    windows vista with 1.5 gig ram with ie8 downloaded and installed.
    HAD the problem in windows 7 beta but not using that now.one with 1.5 gigs
    ram and one with 3 gigs ram
    HAD the problem in windows 7 rc but not using that now.one with 1.5 gig ram
    and one with 3 gigs ram
    HAD the problem in windows 7 rtm but not using it now.one with 1.5gig ram
    and one with 3 gigs ram
    HAVE the problem in a store bought windows 7 with 3 gigs ram
    have the problem on a bought upgrade windows 7 with 1.5 gigs ram
    friends with bought windows 7 with 1 and 1.5 gigs ram
    all but the upgrade is a fresh install.
    either avg free or no av (only on one machine)
    none came with win7 pre-installed...we all formatted and started fresh
    because we LOVE windows 7 (except for the upgrade)
    the problem is from "day one" even before doing windows updates.before
    installing av software. and after with or without aol software...ive
    formatted and re-installed numerous times now.
    doesnt matter if no add-ons or setting reset.
    this has been an issue since i started using windows 7 from beta versions,
    so its been around a year now which is why i am at this newsgroup because
    this is the first time since winME that i cant solve some computer issue that
    has popped-up on mine or a friends machine.

    we all have the same problem which is...
    i ALWAYS "open in new window".
    the second and third window work fine..but when i open a fourth window
    either from the original FIRST or as a "child" from the second or third
    "instance" of ie8 the problem starts...of course i can always just copy and
    paste the url into the first ie window but then i move away from the original
    page i wnted to not navigate away from. and of course i can just close ie and
    start over again. and it doesnt matter if its in a new window or new
    tab...both actions cause the issue by the 4th OPEN. like i said...im not a
    computer expert nor am i a computer idiot, but if i need to ask for help it
    is a real issue and my proof is that ive not had to ask for help since
    windows millennium.
    thank you all for your help and advice and i hope i have given all the info
    you might need to think about my issue since many heads are better than one.
    thank you agaijn, everyone.
     
    jedab, Dec 28, 2009
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  15. jedab

    rob^_^ Guest

    Hi je,

    What is your Homepage setting? What security zone does it load in?

    On Tools>Internet Options>Security tab, Intranet Zone, Sites button, ensure
    your have the correct settings for Intranet Zone. (should be 'Automatically
    detect' but could be different if you are using Win7 Homegroup features).
    Press the Advanced button also and make sure you have not place the
    localhost there. Your security zone settings in all zones should be set to
    their default/recommended values)

    That’s the only other thing I can think of that may be causing your
    problems.

    Also go to

    Start>Control Panel>Action Center>Troubleshooting>View History

    What items (if any) do you have listed there?

    Also, you have already run the "Internet Explorer Performance"
    troubleshooter. You should also run the "Internet Explorer Safety"
    troubleshooter.

    Regards.
     
    rob^_^, Dec 28, 2009
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  16. jedab

    jedab Guest

    everything is fine...everything is correct....security says no changes or
    updates necessary...one home page is aol.com.....3 home pages are
    msn.com...one is black page...i am not part of a home group on any of the
    computers...not even a printer installed here or at my 2 friends having the
    same issue
    everything is set as you ask..in troubleshooting history... the history of
    me checking and never anything wrong...no issues...nothing needing changing
    or upgrading or updating...as i said i am not a computer idiot and there has
    to be something really perplexing me if i need to get help...ive been at this
    since the end december 2008? or is that the beginning of jan 2009?
    no security issues...no virus issues....no nothing...everything is as it
    should be...which is why i find this so perplexing...btw i am also using
    vista with ie7 and xp pro with ie7 and no problems...i "float" from computer
    to computer to make sure setting are the same or as close to the same as
    possible....i also help freinds with ie6 and ie7 and no problems except one
    put on ie8 and now she cant open google.com or ask.com, but that a different
    thing im trying to solve...anyways...i cant thank you enough for your time,
    but you are not offering me any ideas i havent tried over and over
    and like i said...ive also re-installed windows several times and this
    happens whether i apply updates immediately or surf the web first...doesnt
    matter that quicktime isnt installed...or flash...ive been installing as ie
    says i need this plugin or that...ie doesnt crash...the 4th open page just
    doesnt load...ever...maybe ie8 just hates me..feelings mutual....and to
    think...i used to recommend ie over all other browsers ive used....go
    figure...well, exactly
    LOL
    thanks again rob
     
    jedab, Dec 28, 2009
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  17. jedab

    N. Miller Guest

    You think?

    Leonard's reply:

    | Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:33:47 -0500
    | From: Leonard Grey <>
    | Subject: Re: ie8 problems
    | References: <>
    | In-Reply-To: <>
    | Message-ID: <#>

    Your second post:

    | From: jedab <>
    | References: <>
    | Subject: RE: ie8 problems
    | Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 09:41:01 -0800
    | Message-ID: <>

    The time format is the difference between GMT and local time. The difference
    is GMT - Local, so you have to add the difference back.

    Leonard's post, adjusted: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:33:47

    Your second post, adusted: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:41:01

    Difference: Your second post is: 7 minutes 14 seconds *after* his reply. You
    need to learn how to read headers. Oh, wait! You can't read the headers. You
    are using that abominable MS CDO "HTTP to NNTP thingy"! ;)
     
    N. Miller, Dec 28, 2009
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  18. jedab

    N. Miller Guest

    I've been using Internet Explorer 8 since MS added it to the 'Microsoft
    Updates' site. On two Windows XP MCE; SP3 computers, on Windows XP Home
    Edition; SP3 computer, one Windows XP Professional; SP3 compuer, and one
    Vista Home Premium; SP2 computer. Not a problem. Not since the day I
    installed. I have since upgraded one of the Windows XP MCE computers, and
    the Windows Vista to Windows 7 Home Premium. As long as I have been running
    Internet Explorer 8 on this computers, not a problem.

    In addition, I know of four other computer, outside of my premises, running
    Internet Explorer 8 without problems.

    I only have one add-on in the Windows 7 IE8, two in the Windows Xp IE8. Both
    can be easily removed. If I had any problems, those would be the first to go
    when troubleshooting.
     
    N. Miller, Dec 28, 2009
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  19. <canned>
    1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode?

    => Start | (All) Programs | Accessories | System Tools | Internet
    Explorer (No add-ons).

    Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer’s (No Add-ons) Mode:
    http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx

    2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737

    3. What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
    subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)?
    What third-party firewall (if any)?

    4. Has a(nother) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
    machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
    it)?
    </canned>
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Dec 28, 2009
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  20. jedab

    rob^_^ Guest

    AOL is a strong lead. Are they your ISP?

    To use their sites and use their email services you NEED to have installed
    some of their 'software'. The AOL browser adds a custom security zone 5. AOL
    Objects to IE's zones. Removing their software leaves this behind so when
    you next navigate to one of their sites it places the domain in that custom
    security zone.

    If when you navigate to your AOL homepage, the security zone icon shows AOL
    Objects then this is the cause of your browser crashes. You cannot see this
    'AOL Objects' in your Internet Options Security Zones and it is hidden from
    users to stop you modifying THEIR settings.

    Here is the location of their custom security zone key in the registry.

    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet
    Settings\Zones\5


    I think, you will probably find that you have AOL.com or one of its domains
    in your Trusted Sites Zone.

    ******* To correct your problem I think all you have to do is to remove
    those AOL sites from your Trusted Sites Zone.

    You may however have to go to the registry and manually remove the AOL
    custom security zone. Again check with AOL support for any information on
    how to correct their mistakes.

    If AOL is your ISP then you will be using THEIR custom connection settings.
    Check with AOL support to ensure you have Win7 compatible connection
    settings. (this would explain why your problem has followed you for over a
    year and over several re-builds)


    Well I hope I am right and we can pin your problems on AOL and not some
    other idiopath(=unknown origin)

    Regards.
     
    rob^_^, Dec 28, 2009
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