IE9 can't show particular website

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by Fokke Nauta, Apr 4, 2013.

  1. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Guest

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    Hi all,

    My neighbour had a W7 laptop with IE9. Works fine but there is one
    particular website that IE9 doesn't show. Other browsers show this page
    fine. It is about www.startpagina.nl, a well known Dutch site with much
    used entries.
    IE9 shows a small window with a message, something like "This site can't
    be opened, closing down now" or the like. It then tries again, closes
    again and comes back with an error page with this in the address bar:
    res://ieframe.dll/acr_error.htm#startpagina.nl,http://www.startpagina.nl/

    He noticed this problem after IE9 has been upgraded to IE10. But after
    uninstalling IE10 he kept this problem.

    Details about IE9:
    Version 9.0.8112.16421
    Update version 9.0.14 (KB 2809289)

    Anyone has an idea? Except from don't use IE9 anymore?

    Thanks beforehand for your answers.
    With best regards,
    Fokke Nauta
     
    Fokke Nauta, Apr 4, 2013
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  2. Fokke Nauta

    Mayayana Guest

    | again and comes back with an error page with this in the address bar:
    | res://ieframe.dll/acr_error.htm#startpagina.nl,http://www.startpagina.nl/
    |

    That just refers to the embedded webage text that IE
    is loading to show you an error. It's not informative.

    | Anyone has an idea? Except from don't use IE9 anymore?
    |

    To make a Firefox out of a sow's ear? No. But it's not
    necessarily the fault of IE. To begin with, the page is
    stunningly bloated -- over 1 MB just for that HTML file
    itself. Second, just a quick look seems to show numerous
    errors. For instance, the text that follows this code is
    clearly script, but it's not marked as script:
    <div class="searchengines-container" style="display: none">It acts as hidden
    page text. If you set no style for thepage you'll see a large block of
    gibberish.And right at the very top is this:<!--[if lt IE 9]> <html
    xml:lang="nl" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="nl" class="ie-9">
    <![endif]--><!--[if (gt IE 9)|!(IE)]><!--> <html xml:lang="nl"
    xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" lang="nl"> <!--<![endif]--> The HTML
    tag for a version of IE under v. 9 is hidden in a comment. So why does IE 10
    complain and not otherbrowsers? That might take a lot of work to figure
    outexactly. I have heard about other problems with IE10. Visual Studio6
    acts up, apparently because IE10 does not install properlyand damages the
    registration of several system files. If you like to try out the latest
    versions then you take therisk there might be problems. Personally I avoid
    any updatesto IE. V. 6 does what I need and I don't use it online. But ifI
    were going to update I'd at least wait awhile until they getthe kinks out.
     
    Mayayana, Apr 4, 2013
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  3. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Guest

    Just for my interest: What does this expression mean: "To make ... out
    of a sow's ear"? I'm not native English.
    I haven't checked the code untill now but I was surprised to see it.
    Yes, on mij own PC the installation of IE10 generated problems with FF,
    my default browser. Uninstallation of IE10 fixed it again.
    For me no IE10 anymore. But I use FF anyway.
    But in this case I understand it's a matter of bad programming with this
    site? But then why his IE9 only? Not my IE9 or other browsers.

    BTW, running this site through the W3c markup validation service
    generates 164 Errors, 146 warning(s). Haven't expected this.

    Fokke
     
    Fokke Nauta, Apr 4, 2013
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  4. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Guest

    Thanks!
    These are things you don't learn at school.
    One more expression that I learned.
    OK, didn't know that.
    Funny, those differemce between browsers. As I don't like IE, I use FF
    as mu default browser for years now. Never had any problem with it.

    But I thing I'll advice my neighbour to use FF, as I won't be able to
    solve his problem. His IE9 has problems with that page, whereas my IE9
    has no problems at all. It's specifically related to his laptop. I don't
    know why. And as far as i know, FF is pretty good.

    Fokke
     
    Fokke Nauta, Apr 5, 2013
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    Stewart Guest

    I found that I could not get through to "dialanexchange" but then learned
    that if I entered by using the "enter" key instead of clicking with the
    mouse I could get access.
    However I am still finding it impossible to download programs from the bbc
    iplayer.



    "Fokke Nauta" wrote in message
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    Hi all,

    My neighbour had a W7 laptop with IE9. Works fine but there is one
    particular website that IE9 doesn't show. Other browsers show this page
    fine. It is about www.startpagina.nl, a well known Dutch site with much
    used entries.
    IE9 shows a small window with a message, something like "This site can't
    be opened, closing down now" or the like. It then tries again, closes
    again and comes back with an error page with this in the address bar:
    res://ieframe.dll/acr_error.htm#startpagina.nl,http://www.startpagina.nl/

    He noticed this problem after IE9 has been upgraded to IE10. But after
    uninstalling IE10 he kept this problem.

    Details about IE9:
    Version 9.0.8112.16421
    Update version 9.0.14 (KB 2809289)

    Anyone has an idea? Except from don't use IE9 anymore?

    Thanks beforehand for your answers.
    With best regards,
    Fokke Nauta
     
    Stewart, Apr 5, 2013
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  6. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Guest

    <snip>

    I installed FF on my neighbours laptop. We'll never know why his IE9
    stumbled over that site.
    Problem solved.

    Thanks for your help.

    Fokke
     
    Fokke Nauta, Apr 6, 2013
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  7. Fokke Nauta

    Mayayana Guest

    | I installed FF on my neighbours laptop. We'll never know why his IE9
    | stumbled over that site.
    | Problem solved.
    |
    | Thanks for your help.

    You're welcome. From what I hear, IE9+ does a
    much better job of rendering according to W3C
    standards than the older versions do, but in the
    past *every* version has been different. And
    IE9/10 are very limited. They won't run on anything
    but Windows and even then won't run on XP. I
    don't tihkn IE10 even runs on Vista. Personally I
    ignore them in terms of webpage compatibility.
    If I have to have a particular OS and version to
    test a browser that's a "niche" browser. It's
    Microsoft's job to make them compatible.

    If you don't know about Pale Moon you might
    also find that worth a try. It's made from the
    Firefox code but with some of the bloat and extras
    removed. (Things like parental controls that few
    people use.) In my experience PM is notably faster
    than FF. They're also less likely to be corrupted
    because they're not funded by Google. (Most of the
    money Mozilla.org makes comes from Google buying
    the search bar spot. As a result, FF has become
    less human-friendly and more commercial.)
    I like to have both FF and PM. Both provide
    numerous customization options via about:config
    and userContent.css. But it's awkward to switch
    security levels when needed. So I leave cookies
    and script enabled in FF, then only use that when
    absolutely necessary. I block script, cookies, iframes,
    meta tags and 3rd-party images in PM, and use that
    as my main browser.
     
    Mayayana, Apr 6, 2013
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  8. Fokke Nauta

    Fokke Nauta Guest

    So do I, but IE is still a widely used browser.
    I have downloaded Pale Moon, looks very much like FF. I wasn't aware of
    this browser, I'll give it a try.
    I use 2 browsers for reference: FF and Maxton. I use FF for every day's
    use as well. FF however has a few funny things what Maxton doesn't have.
    When there is a horizontal line <hr> on a web page, FF won't show this.
    Maxton and IE do.
    And when there is a table from which the sizes are set in a separate css
    file, FF always shows this correctly, whereas Maxton (and IE alike)
    doesn't always show the tables correctly. I have to adjust them in my
    HTML editor manually to make shure Maxton and IE shows them correctly.

    Fokke
     
    Fokke Nauta, Apr 8, 2013
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