ieexplore remaining in task manager

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by Rage Skywolfe, Jun 6, 2009.

  1. Interesting... I thought most people did at least weekly scans :s
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    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 7, 2009
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  2. Rage Skywolfe

    Jim Guest

    I do a weekly scan with MBAM and SAS. I scan with NOD32 whenever the notion
    strikes me, which isn't very often.
    Of course, NOD32 is always running hence the need for periodic full scan is

    Jim, Jun 7, 2009
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  3. I ain't most people. <wink>

    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 7, 2009
  4. lol somehow I figured that :p but I do like having defender on there though
    seems to accent the virus protection a bit ;)
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    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 7, 2009
  5. most of them that I know of do have realtime scanning. nod32 is a good
    product as is avast but I have yet to be able to find either in stores....
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    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 7, 2009
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    VanguardLH Guest

    There is only one reason to run a scheduled scan: to find *dormant*
    pests. If a file gets opened or loaded into memory (the only place it
    can run), the on-access scanner catches it. The same engine,
    signatures, and heuristics are used by a manual scan. There are times
    when a user may temporarily disable the on-access (real-time) scanner,
    like when ensuring the AV program doesn't interfere with the install of
    a trusted program. That opens a window of opportunity. Sometimes users
    neglect to re-enable their AV product so the window gets wider. It is
    when the on-access scanner is disabled that a file could be deposited on
    your host. When you re-enable the on-access scanner, it is checking for
    file creates, writes, and loads. A deposited file that is not access or
    loaded won't be caught but then a dormant pest isn't doing anything,
    either. Some knowledgeable users who understand the what-for of a
    manual (on-demand) scan still want to find those dormant pests to
    eradicate them from their host as a matter of keeping it clean and
    reducing the possibility that they get activated somehow later.
    However, most users don't understand what is going on and simply do the
    manual or scheduled on-demand scan because it was recommended to them.
    They don't know why except they were told it's a good thing to do.

    I never bother running an on-demand scan using Defender. It's not that
    good a malware detector, especially when relying on signatures. Its
    coverage is poor. It's only the behaviors that it detects which are of
    any value to me. It does not catch system changes in real-time but
    instead monitors for those changes and that means it finds them late.
    It finds the changes after they have been made. That is why it never
    reports the process that made the change because that process isn't
    involved in the change at the time Defender reports finding it.
    WinPatrol is also a *monitor* security utility (i.e., it finds late what
    was changed). I use WinPatrol, too, but again knowing that it and
    Defender are do not intercede in a current change (by forcing it to pend
    until authorized). They are useful, late to notify of changes, but not
    as invasive as, say, Prevx.

    I schedule an on-demand scan by my anti-virus program once per week just
    to catch any dormants that might've got deposited in the few times that
    I may disable the AV program which is rare even for installs. I chose a
    week interval simply because I have a slot available that won't conflict
    with other scheduled events (and the time those scheduled tasks take to
    complete); otherwise, I'd probably scheduled it for every 2 or 4 weeks.
    However, in the scheduled event, it is configured to NOT run the AV scan
    until the computer has been idle for an hour. I often am awake and
    using my computer in the wee morn so often this event doesn't run
    because the computer hasn't been idle long enough. I'm not concerned
    because eventually it will run and it is just a cleanup of dormant

    But back to the suggestion of running IE8 in its no add-ons mode. You
    say the problem does not always occur. Always running IE8 in no add-ons
    mode may not reveal the source of the add-on causing the problem if the
    problem rarely shows up. Is it once per week, once every few days, once
    per day, or sporadically several times throughout the day? It seems
    that Linkscanner is NOT a critical piece of security software and that
    you could leave it disabled for a week or two to find out if the hang on
    exit reappears. If you disable Linkscanner (or uninstall it), you only
    need to do so until enough time has elapsed for you to feel the hang was
    not caused by that add-on or until the next hang which means it wasn't
    because of the disabled add-on.
    VanguardLH, Jun 7, 2009
  7. is there a way ti disable that unless you run the setup program again?
    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 7, 2009
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    VanguardLH Guest

    Can't you disable it in IE's own add-on manager?
    VanguardLH, Jun 7, 2009
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    Spirit Guest

    Switch to Avast, IE8, use InPrivate Filtering (use AdBlocker
    files available on Web), Smart Screen Filter, PopUp Filter,
    Defender, and Protected Mode and stop worrying with
    the rest.

    (turn off the Avast shields you don't use, I use only Standard
    Shield, Network Shield, WebShield, and Internet Mail Shield.)

    Spirit, Jun 7, 2009
  10. Defender's primary focus is spyware/hijackware. Few, if any, current
    threats are literal viruses these days.

    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 7, 2009
  11. yep sure can ;)
    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 7, 2009
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    ah. if there are very few threats that are viruses out there then why are
    people still continuing to get burned by the same types of viruses that have
    always been out there? Trojans,Worms etc.
    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 7, 2009
  13. <snip>

    You simply would not believe the number of users out there who don't have an
    anti-virus or anti-spyware application installed or whose AV subscription
    has expired and/or who don't have a firewall enabled and/or who have not
    kept their computers fully-patched at Windows Update!

    The various Malware Removal forums where so many of us toil every day would
    have 90% fewer pleas for help if all users adhered to...

    5 steps to help protect your new computer before you go online

    Protect Your PC!

    Steps To Help Prevent Spyware

    Steps to Help Prevent Computer Worms
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 7, 2009
  14. if I could use Avast without the scan freezing out on me I would I have had
    good luck with it in the past it just won't run on this computer without
    locking the screen up completely.
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    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 7, 2009
  15. yeah I have always wondered why people don't have antivirus applications
    installed. these days it is really needed.... I never had much of a problem
    with them when I ran 98se but I don't remember much about having automatic
    updates either come to think of it... anyway, I agree on that. but the one
    thing I am wondering is about firewalls. some say that the windows firewall
    does fine, others don't. the only thing different that I have noticed in
    third party firewalls is the ability to monitor applications.
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    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 7, 2009
  16. The WinXP firewall is one-way (incoming); the Vista firewall is two-way
    (incoming & outgoing).

    IMHO, I believe that the vast majority of WinXP users are sufficiently
    protected by the WinXP firewall, especially when used in conjunction with a
    modern router.
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 7, 2009
  17. that is what I was wondering. but if you do have a software firewall on there
    how do you know the difference between attacks and a normal connection trying
    to get through? I know at times I have had zone alarm on here I get
    connections from the same address alot of times letting me know they are
    entering :s and also what about security suites?
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    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 7, 2009
  18. PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 8, 2009
  19. and I just have a dsl modem on mine hoping to get a router sometime but I am
    still kind of iffy on how to configure it and if it would do anything to the
    current ip address I have,. and thanks for the link.
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    Rage Skywolfe, Jun 8, 2009
  20. The Networking newsgroup's the best place to ask questions about that.
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jun 8, 2009
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