IMAP and hotmail

Discussion in 'Windows Live Mail' started by Tushar, Sep 18, 2009.

  1. Tushar

    Tushar Guest

    Is there a way to use an IMAP connection with hotmail anymore. I was using
    outlook express for years and it was beautiful.

    Now hotmail has changed, and the POP3 is not nearly as good and has a lot of
    problems. I understand that gmail has a better pop connection that works
    more like the imap.

    Am i going to have to switch to gmail to regain functionality?

    Thanks!
    Tushar
     
    Tushar, Sep 18, 2009
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  2. Tushar

    Ron Sommer Guest

    download.live.com\wlmail
    Uncheck all programs that you don't want.
    (Alt)Tools, Accounts, Add, E-mail account, insert the Hotmail full email
    address and password.
    If WLMail migrated your pop Hotmail account from WM, move messages to
    folders in Storage folders (Alt, View, Layout, Folders pane, check Show
    Storage folders) and delete the account.

    One post would have been sufficient.
     
    Ron Sommer, Sep 19, 2009
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  3. Tushar

    Tushar Guest

    Thanks Ron,

    I do not fully understand what you are suggesting there. I have downloaded
    WL mail and it is installed on this laptop. I have a thunderbird client on
    the other comp, just for a trial.

    However, what i really would like to know is if i can still have an IMAP
    connection with my hotmail anymore.

    Cheers
    T
     
    Tushar, Sep 19, 2009
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  4. Tushar

    Ron Sommer Guest

    If you add the Hotmail account to WLMail, the folders will be synced with
    the online folders.
    It is not IMAP, it is Microsoft's version on IMAP. Hotmail can not use
    IMAP.
     
    Ron Sommer, Sep 19, 2009
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  5. Tushar

    Tushar Guest

    I want to make sure i understand. Hot mail was using imap before? I was
    using an imap connection up to 3 weeks ago with hotmail i was using this for
    years without any problem.

    Why does it no longer work. Does anyone know if imap will be restored to
    hotmail. Does gmail use imap, or at least have something that would function
    the same way hotmail used to with outlook express?

    Thanks
     
    Tushar, Sep 19, 2009
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  6. No, Hotmail has never used IMAP.
     
    Gary VanderMolen, Sep 19, 2009
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  7. Tushar

    ...winston Guest

    Hotmail until Sept 1 provided access in OE and Outlook with a Http protocol called WebDAV.
    - WebDAV permitted the Hotmail folders(in the web interface) to be mirrored locally

    WebDAV was not an IMAP protocol, but an Http protocol.

    WebDAV was replaced with another Http protocol called DeltaSync.

    Pop3 protocol was made available for all Hotmail accounts(7 months ago) in preparation of WebDAV retirement as an alternate option
    to DeltaSync.

    Only two clients support Delta Sync
    1. Windows Live Mail
    2. Outlook 03/07[using the Outlook Connector]

    Many email clients support Pop3.

    Thus you have three options for Hotmail accounts in a local email client.
    1. Pop3 using any pop3 capable email client
    2. DeltaSync using Windows Live Mail
    3. DeltaSync using Outlook 03/07[using the Outlook Connector]


    If you wish to see the same type of folder structure(http not IMAP) in a local email client that you saw in the past in OE(http not
    IMAP), then 1 and 2 are your only options.

    If (1), (2), or (3) are not acceptable, then accessing your account in the Hotmail web interface(accessed via Hotmail.com or
    Mail.live.com) is your only other choice.
     
    ...winston, Sep 19, 2009
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  8. Tushar

    N. Miller Guest

    Hotmail has never used IMAP. Hotmail uses "HTTPMail". Formerly with the
    WebDAV protocol, which MS Outlook Express understands, currently with the
    DeltaSynch protocol, which MS Outlook Express does not understand. But
    Windows Live Mail does understand DeltaSync.
    No. You were using "HTTPMail", which used to work with WebDAV, but no
    longer. Now only with DeltaSync.
    Hotmail used to use "HTTPMail" with WebDAV. Hotmail currently uses
    "HTTPMail" with DeltaSync.

    MS Outlook Express works with WebDAV only, not with DeltaSync. MS Outlook
    Express is forever, from Sept. 1, 2009 on, reduced to using POP3 for access
    to Hotmail.

    Windows Live Mail works with DeltaSync only; but not to worry. Hotmail
    currently works with DeltaSync.
    Gmail uses both POP3 and IMAP. IMAP is not the same as HTTPMail.

    Hotmail uses both POP3 and HTTPMail (w/Delta/Sync).

    MS Outlook Express can only work with WebDAV, which has been retired by
    Hotmail.

    Windows Live Mail works with DeltaSync, which is what makes HTTPMail work
    similar to IMAP.
     
    N. Miller, Sep 19, 2009
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  9. Tushar

    Ron Sommer Guest

    To add to Norman's post-

    when you add an email account to an email program, one of the settings is
    the type of server. The three types of server that are being discussed here
    are pop3, imap, and http. Each account is setup using only one server type.
    For Hotmail, the available types are http or pop3. If you have an email
    account setup using http, to use pop3, you would have to setup another
    account.

    To add to my earlier post-
    when you install WLMail, the email account settings will be migrated from
    Outlook Express. If OE had a http Hotmail account, WLMail will have a http
    Hotmail account. The big difference is that DeltaSync protocol will be used
    and not the discontinued WebDAB protocol. If OE had a pop3 account, then it
    will be a pop3 account in WLMail.
     
    Ron Sommer, Sep 19, 2009
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  10. Tushar

    Tushar Guest

    Hello Everyone,

    Thanks very much for all of your responses. So it looks like Outlook
    Express is will no longer function with my hotmail account.

    I have set up WLM as my new client, as a pop3 account. The problem is that
    I have a mail client on more than one computer. When i delete something on
    one computer, it will not delete from client on the other computer
    automatically. There are also other problems compared to the way that things
    were working with Out look Express. REad and unread status would be
    carried over from more than one email client, ... things would stay
    synchronized in real time between computers.

    Questions

    1)Would adding the hotmail account to WLM with a DeltaSync fomat make the
    client function as it used to? i.e. better than pop3.

    2) If so, how would i proceed to do that. Do I just remove the account from
    WLM and add it again with a DeltaSync confiuration?

    3) would mozilla thunderbird support DeltaSync if that is going to work
    better thant the pop3?

    Cheers
    Tushar



     
    Tushar, Sep 24, 2009
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  11. Tushar

    Ron Sommer Guest

    Why did you set up WLM as my new client, as a pop3 account?

    Do not remove the pop3 Hotmail account.
    Tools, Accounts, highlight the Hotmail account, Properties, uncheck Include
    this account when sending and receiving.

    Tools, Accounts, Add, E-mail account, enter your full Hotmail address and
    password.
    Post back when you get the account working.
    --
    Ron Sommer
    MVP-Mail


     
    Ron Sommer, Sep 24, 2009
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