Install Business version with Ultimate version dvd

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Installation' started by olant, Jul 5, 2007.

  1. olant

    olant Guest


    I upgraded my pc and bought Windows Vista ultimate 64bit, and i would
    like to install Windows vista Business 64bit.

    How can i do it ?

    I took ultimate because it was the only version i could find (in my
    area anyway) that had a 64bit version in the box.
    But i don't want the media center, the high definition, and all the
    multimedia stuff. All of these ultimate "extras" are of no use whatsover
    to me.

    So my question is basically can i install the Business version with my
    ultimate key ? (is it "downwards" compatible in a way ?).

    I don't understand why ultimate is the only one with 64bit in the box.
    It doesn't make sense to me. It would have been much more logical for
    the Business version to be the one with 64bit in the box.
    olant, Jul 5, 2007
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  2. You are not obliged to run Media Center, create movies, or partake in any of
    the multimedia activities.. what is more, if you do not have the appropriate
    hardware for all of Ultimates features, they will not be installed anyway..


    Mike Hall
    MS MVP Windows Shell/User
    Mike Hall - MVP, Jul 5, 2007
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  3. olant

    olant Guest


    Thanks for the reply,

    Yes, i am not forced to watch movies on my computer (that's what my tv
    is for, and it's very good at it), thankfully ! :)

    The problem is not using or not what is installed, it's just that it is
    bothering to me to have things installed that will evidently load the
    system in a way or another that i have no use for.

    All i want is 64bit Business, and i couldn't find a business 64bit
    version box anywhere around, so I took a 64bit ultimate version box
    (probably a mistake).

    Since last post, I tried installing Business without key then entering
    Ultimate key under Vista, unfortunately it doesn't work, error message
    saying i need Business version key.

    It would be much better if the key was "downwards" compatible, much
    cleaner and simpler, i don't understand why they didn't do it that way.
    But unless i find a way it looks like i will have to try and remove the
    media center, hd stuff etc... after install, as suggested on another
    thread, a wonderful way to start off with a new OS don't you think ;-).

    Do you know of a way to remove all these things after install cleanly
    and as simply as possible (so it ends up like a Business version ) ?

    I still don't understand why they don't put 64bit media in the business
    box, probably the box where it makes the most sense to put it (with
    maybe the ultimate for big gamers or people who like to watch movies on
    their computers, i don't.)
    olant, Jul 5, 2007
  4. No, you can not install Business since Ultimate will be installed when
    you use the Ultimate key.
    The DVD includes the 4 versions of Vista and the key determines which
    is installed.

    Return Ultimate and purchase Business, easier if you live in North

    While Ultimate is the only one that comes with a 64 bit DVD in the
    box, you can order the 64 bit DVD or even CDs if you purchased, Home
    Basic, Home Premium or Business:

    As for why 64 bit is only included in Ultimate?
    My guess...
    1. Eliminates confusion of which to use for less experienced users.
    2. Saves $ by not including what many will not use anyways.
    3. Generally the power users that want 64 bit also want Ultimate.
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Jul 5, 2007
  5. olant

    olant Guest

    Actually, do you know if there is a difference in system performance
    between the Business and the Ultimate version (supposing the multimedia
    featues in ultimate are not used) ?

    If I know there isn't any difference and the "extra" features of
    ultimate don't slow the system, i'll be happy to leave Ultimate
    installed as it is (i don't really like the idea of having to uninstall
    things after install).

    Thaks for your help
    olant, Jul 5, 2007
  6. olant

    olant Guest

    If you are wondering why 64 bit is important to me it's because i'm a
    architecture student, and use a lot of CAD and rendering programs.

    The 64 bit versions of these programs are starting to come out, and th
    rendering times of the 64 bit versions are incredibly faster (haven'
    tested pesonaly yet, but from "relaibale" sources typical basic render
    can change from 20-30 minutes to less than a minute !).
    I know it doesn't bring much to the other programs, but apparently i
    certainly doesn't take anything away from them.
    The only problem with 64bit seems to be the drivers and i'm lucky t
    have found drivers for my hardware (a problem which will rapidl
    diminuish to the point of disappearing for practicaly everybody

    As students we test a lot (we're still learning, so a lot of it i
    trial and error, and basicly trying out new things, new ways o
    presenting our work), and are always in a hurry for putting together th
    presentations. And when you are working day and night the last week fo
    the presentation of a project, 30 minutes less on a render is ver
    precious :-

    For info, no, not in North America, in Franc

    Thanks for your help
    olant, Jul 5, 2007
  7. Bonjour Olant,

    There is no difference at all, in performance.

    When you install Ultimate, none of the multimedia stuff starts running
    automatically. So, Media PC etc have zero impact on performance (apart from
    occupying a few MB of disk space). It's only if you actually go to the Start
    Menu, and explicitly start running these applications, that they would have
    any impact on performance.

    Furthermore, you can go into Control Panel, Programs and Features, Turn
    Windows Features On or Off, and deselect the Windows Ultimate Features such
    as Bitlocker preparation tool, Dreamscene, and secure backup. With these
    un-installed, you are more or less back at a Business Edition.

    I'd recommend you just stick with the x64 Ultimate version you already have.
    There's no significant performance advantage to Business edition; in fact,
    no disadvantage at all, significant or otherwise. And some of the Ultimate
    features might even prove useful, in future (eg Subsystem for Unix Apps, if
    you use Unix at you university)

    J'espère que c'est utile :)
    Andrew McLaren, Jul 6, 2007
  8. olant

    olant Guest


    Oui, c'est exactement ce que je voulais savoir, merci :)
    olant, Jul 6, 2007
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