Installing Windows 98

Discussion in 'Virtual PC' started by zipperman, Jul 17, 2006.

  1. zipperman

    zipperman Guest

    I am using windows xp pro as the host and trying to install 98 as the guest.
    Whenever i run setup.exe it starts and says, "Windows 98 requires 16MB of
    memory" I have set the ram at bytes from 20mb to 128 and still have the
    problem. Can anyone help?
     
    zipperman, Jul 17, 2006
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  2. zipperman

    zipperman Guest

    Nevermind i figured it out
     
    zipperman, Jul 17, 2006
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    Walterius Guest

    Aren't you going to tell us what you figured?
     
    Walterius, Jul 17, 2006
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  4. zipperman

    Robert Comer Guest

    He needed to FDISK and FORMAT the virtual hard drive most likely.
     
    Robert Comer, Jul 17, 2006
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  5. I'm having exactly this problem, and formatting the virtual C: drive didn't
    work for me.

    THough perhaps I'm doing it wrong. Does it just have to be formatted as
    FAT32, or something more to prepare it?

    A curse upon Zipperman -- May He Be Forever Snagged in His Zipper.
     
    Win98 Sufferer, Oct 17, 2006
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  6. zipperman

    Robert Comer Guest

    I'm having exactly this problem, and formatting the virtual C: drive
    Did you FDISK it? What were you booted from when you ran FORMAT?

    --
    Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
     
    Robert Comer, Oct 17, 2006
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  7. Well if my Win98 CD would boot on its own, or my computer had a floppy
    drive, my recent life would have been notably more pleasant.

    I used a WinXP install CD to format the virtual drive as FAT32, then went
    back to installing Win98.

    I looked for FDISK on the Win98 CD but couldn't find it...?

    Thanks!
     
    Win98 Sufferer, Oct 17, 2006
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  8. zipperman

    Robert Comer Guest

    I looked for FDISK on the Win98 CD but couldn't find it...?

    It's there in a cab somewhere most likely, you'd need a Win98 emergency boot
    floppy to have it for sure. (or image of a boot floppy)
    That should work.

    --
    Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
     
    Robert Comer, Oct 17, 2006
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  9. zipperman

    Steve Jain Guest

    I'll just mention that everything necessary to install Win98 in VPC
    (except license and CD-ROM) is available on my website.
     
    Steve Jain, Oct 17, 2006
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  10. have you got another VPC available to which you can hook your new Vhd, and
    partition it. maybe you could also format it and copy the setupfiles to the
    vhd. make the disk bootable from a vfd and boot the vpc from the virtual
    floppy drive. (I'll reply to my own post with a lot of files (a split
    archive , use winzip 9 to open) Because the newsgroup does not permit me to
    uplaod a file of around 700 kB.
    Using this "floppy" you can boot from it, load the CD drivers and install
    Win98.

    Good luck

    Ericd
     
    Eric Denekamp, Oct 18, 2006
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    Eric Denekamp, Oct 18, 2006
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  12. zipperman

    Paul Adare Guest

    microsoft.public.virtualpc news group, Eric Denekamp
    Please do not post binary files to the public news groups. NNTP is
    meant to be a text, not a binary medium (unless the news group
    specifically has the word binary in its name). Also, anyone who is dumb
    enough to download a binary file from a public news group deserves
    whatever nasty virus or malware that they get.
     
    Paul Adare, Oct 18, 2006
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  13. zipperman

    Steve Jain Guest

    Or you could simply have downloaded it from my website, I've had a
    Win98 EBD VFD there for 3 years.
     
    Steve Jain, Oct 19, 2006
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  14. Thanks to everyone for your help so far -- especially Steve Jain.

    Steve's pre-fab Win98 VPC files seem to be working really well.

    Except I've gotten to the point where the Win98 install had me restart
    (after copying all the files to c:), and now the VM has restarted to the A:
    prompt. What do I do now?

    (My apologies if that's painfully obvious but I'm new to all this.)

    THanks!
     
    Win98 Sufferer, Oct 20, 2006
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  15. zipperman

    Paul Adare Guest

    microsoft.public.virtualpc news group, =?Utf-8?B?V2luOTggU3VmZmVyZXI=?=
    Release the virtual floppy before you reboot.
     
    Paul Adare, Oct 20, 2006
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  16. Whooooooo! Windows 98 -- Operating System of the Future!

    Thank you Mark and Paul.

    While I'm up and running now, I of course perversely want to create more
    trouble for myself.

    I'd like to still figure out why what I was doing before wasn't working (see
    about 20 posts above), and how I can create my own replication of Steve
    Jain's setup, using only secure files from my Win98 CD.

    So:

    - what was I still doing wrong in setting up the VPC hard drive so that I
    was getting the "Must have 16 MB memory" error (I had partitioned the Win98
    virtual drive... is that not recommended?)

    - how do I create my own Emergeny Boot Disk, directly from the compressed
    files on the Win98 CD preferably, as a floppy image that VPC can use, on a
    computer with no physical floppy drive (using WinImage? Is that a reputable
    and secure app for sure?)

    - what has Steve done to prepare the VHD (I see there are files already
    install on the virtual C: drive)


    Thanks!
     
    Win98 Sufferer, Oct 20, 2006
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  17. zipperman

    Steve Jain Guest

    You need to partition and format the drive, otherwise you will get
    this error.
    MS or Google will have instructions. You can also just create a
    Windows 98 Start up disk during the installation or after installation
    in Add/Remove Programs
    FDISK, Format, and added the necessary files to boot and load cd
    drivers.
     
    Steve Jain, Oct 20, 2006
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  18. Thanks Steve. I will research this further.

    Are you confident no one's hacked your site and put anything nasty in your
    files?
     
    Win98 Sufferer, Oct 20, 2006
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  19. To my knowledge, a 16mb setting is not required. I install Win9x/ME with
    anything from 64mb to 256mb without the OP's issue. He is running into
    something else.
     
    Colin Barnhorst, May 12, 2008
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  20. zipperman

    N/A Guest

    I recently brought a game but it unfortunately it wont work on XP when
    looking for help files/forums on Google, I read about someone else who had
    the same problem as I have with there copy of the game he said he used a
    Virtual PC. I searched for virtual pc on Google and found Microsoft Virtual
    PC 2007 after reading about what Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is I thought that
    might help.

    I download and installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 all was fine last time I
    played this game was on my old PC which had Windows 98 as the OP so I thought
    I would install Windows 98 onto the Virtual PC using the Windows 98 Disc I
    got with my old PC.

    But I had some problems when installing Windows 98 it brought things up
    saying something like (can't find this file and can't find that file) I
    clicked on skip this file it seemed to continue to install just fine. But
    it’s not working fine every time I start the Virtual PC it says (Cannot find
    a device file that may be needed to run Windows or Windows applications)
    these are the 4 files it can’t find (vnetsup.vxd, vredir.vxd, dfs.vxd and
    vnetbios.vxd) it says to press any key to continue which I do. After the
    vnetbios.vxd it brings up a Windows Networking error message that reads
    (Unable to load the dynamic link library, msnp32.dll, The system cannot find
    the file specified, Some or all of the following feature is not available) I
    click on the ok button and then it loads into Windows 98 screen and
    everything seems fine.

    I installed the game all was fine until I tried to play it the DARN Virtual
    PC doesn’t detect my Graphics card, is there anyway to make the Virtual PC
    detect all the hardware that my PC has? And to uninstall/reinstall Windows 98
    properly so it will hopefully start up without any problems?
     
    N/A, Jul 3, 2008
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