Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by Gordon, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    I originally used Windows Update to install all the windows updates
    including IE8 and found that IE8 was quite slow to start and close.
    Interestingly I have just re-installed Vista, and installed SP1 from the
    separate download before using WU, rather than allow WU to do it. The
    difference in IE8 performance in opening and closing is noticeable -
    definitely quite a bit faster.

    Just my experience that may help someone.... :)
     
    Gordon, Jul 9, 2009
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  2. Gordon wrote on Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:51:26 +0100:
    Personally I would have reset IE and run in No Addons mode rather than
    reinstalling the entire OS - you may well have found that achieved the same
    thing. It wouldn't matter if you installed SP1 from WU or from somewhere
    else - it's still installing the same updates.

    I would also bet that if you installed all the add-ons you had under Vista
    before you're likely to find yourself with IE running slow again if you
    don't watch out for the known problems (Spybot Immunization, incompatible
    add-ons, etc).

    I've only had to reinstall the OS on my home PC once in 6 years - and that
    was only because the hard drive failed :)
     
    Daniel Crichton, Jul 9, 2009
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  3. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    I'd changed the OS!
    Not quite. In Programs and Features - View Installed Updates there are now
    only 88 as opposed to many times that prior to installing SP1 first....

    No add-ons are and were, installed other than the ones that come
    automatically with IE8....

    See above.....
     
    Gordon, Jul 9, 2009
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  4. Gordon wrote on Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:56:37 +0100:

    You state in your post "re-installed Vista", which suggests that you already
    had Vista and had reinstalled it.

    That's because SP1 included a lot of those updates already - they're still
    installed, you just don't see them listed individually.
    So you never installed that put an add-on in IE? No Flash, PDF reader,
    toolbars (eg. Google), no anti-virus, no popup handlers? Nothing whatsoever?
    Not a single ActiveX control?
    I did, and you stated you "re-installed Vista". So, did you reinstall, or
    did you switch from a different OS? In the case of changing the OS entirely
    the comparison is irrelevant, and you should have stated that clearly in the
    first place. If you had Vista before, and have Vista again now, that's a
    reinstall - you haven't changed the OS.
     
    Daniel Crichton, Jul 9, 2009
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  5. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    Sigh - Vista > Ubuntu > Vista......
     
    Gordon, Jul 9, 2009
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  6. Gordon wrote on Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:47:55 +0100:

    Oh, a comedian. Why didn't you state that in the first place. It's
    irrelevant to the issue though - you've got the same updates installed now
    as you did before in your older Vista install with SP1 (assuming that you
    did have SP1 before, you've been really vague about everything else so far),
    you just installed them all in one go rather than one at time. All you've
    done is eliminated something else you had installed that wasn't from WU.
     
    Daniel Crichton, Jul 9, 2009
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  7. KB969897 (released on 09 Jun-09) included an undocumented fix to improve new
    window/tab loading speed. Had KB969897 been installed before you reinstall
    Vista and may be assume it's installed now?
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 9, 2009
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  8. Gordon

    Gordon Guest

    I presume it was installed prior to my foray into Linux, because that
    happened at the end of June - it certainly is installed now!
     
    Gordon, Jul 9, 2009
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  9. Gordon

    VanguardLH Guest

    By doing a fresh install of Vista, you would have wiped all entries that
    existed in the Restricted Sites security zone. IE8 is known to get slow
    when there are thousands of sites listed under the Restricted Sites
    security zone. The cure is to clean out this list and only add the few
    sites that you actually visit and want to thoroughly neuter (and let the
    new security features in IE8 handle the rest).

    Several security programs will insert thousands of entries into the
    Restricted Sites security zone. SpywareBlaster and Spybot S&D are just
    a couple of them. If you don't still have these utilities (to use them
    to remove all their entries but which is sometimes incomplete), you'll
    find manual removal is tedious using IE's dialogs. You can remove the
    registry keys more quickly but many folks are fearful of putzing with
    the registry. You can save:

    http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/DelDomains.inf

    to a file, right-click on it, and select Install. This will make
    registry changes to delete the ZoneMap entries and recreate them (but
    empty). ALL sites in every security zone are deleted. If you have
    entries in the Trusted Sites zone, record them before deletion.
     
    VanguardLH, Jul 9, 2009
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  10. Then one assumes that any performance issues are NOT being caused by the
    presence of a large number of sites configured to run in Restricted Sites
    zone (à la Spybot and/or ZonedOut).
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 9, 2009
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  11. Gordon

    Gordon Guest


    There's nothing in the Restricted sites zone at all, even though I run the
    paid-for version of Spywareblaster....that may account for the performance
    increase, there may have been a large number of sites in that zone
    previously. I can't tell now of course... ;-)
     
    Gordon, Jul 9, 2009
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  12. Open SpywareBlaster | Click on Restricted Sites (left-hand menu | Is
    Restricted Site Protection checked or unchecked? Are all items in the box
    at the bottom of the window checked or unchecked?
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Jul 9, 2009
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  13. Gordon

    SGB Guest

    Hi! may I interfere, and ask about IE 8 problem.
    My HD # 1 crashed after 7-8 years of use.
    I bought a new one, and installed XP Home edition, will all the upgrades,
    and IE 8.
    Everything works fine except that EACH time I open IE 8, there is a page
    that says "IE is running with add-ons disabled". It won't go any further by
    itself.
    However, I just click on the home icon, and it proceeds to my homepage and
    operates fine.When I check the add-ons, they are all ENABLED.
    Any help would be appreciated.
     
    SGB, Sep 19, 2009
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  14. To avoid confusion, please begin a new thread about your specific problems.
    State your IE version and full Windows version (e.g., WinXP SP3; Vista SP2)
    in your first post.

    Tip: Uninstall your outdated version of Google Toolbar.
    --
    ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
    MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
    www.banthecheck.com

    <snip hijacked thread>
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Sep 19, 2009
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  15. Was this the first thread you managed to find the term "add-ons" in?
    Look further. ; }

    BTW be aware that the web interface that you are using allows you
    to search by phrase as well as by single words. Simply enclose the
    phrase in doublequotes. So, using your exact quoted string, we find:

    http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...&p=1&tid=e97bd4f4-f040-424b-85bf-cff3516a995e

    (web interface search for
    "IE is running with add-ons disabled"
    )

    Note that by adding your off-topic question to this thread you have now
    caused people doing that search to have to look in this thread uselessly
    first.


    FYI

    Robert Aldwinckle
     
    Robert Aldwinckle, Sep 20, 2009
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