IPv6: When will we start using it?

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Networking' started by Nathan Sokalski, May 26, 2006.

  1. Those of you that are technical people probably know that IPv6 has existed
    for several years now (I'd have to check for the exact amount). But none of
    the Internet Service Providers that I have used or looked at since then are
    offering to use it with their customers yet. I realize that it is a major
    change because of the fact that older software might not be capable of
    everything, all those people that refuse to upgrade their operating systems
    (my dad still uses Windows 98, even though we have an extra XP system
    sitting around) may have some problems, and all those companies with static
    IP addresses will need to take care of some stuff. Even though it has some
    backward compatibilities (It's been a while since I looked over the specs
    for it, and even though I'm a developer, networking isn't my concentration),
    it will be a big project for everyone. But I stopped hearing about it a
    while ago, and with all the updates that have been going on lately (IE7 and
    the increase in broadband usage, for example), I'm wondering when the
    project will begin. Does anybody have any information on when the big
    companies (Microsoft, Verizon, etc.) will start pushing this, and what some
    of the next steps might be?
     
    Nathan Sokalski, May 26, 2006
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    Chuck Guest

    Nathan,

    Many folks have been asking that question. One of the problems is that there
    are not a lot of folks using it, because there are not a lot of websites using
    it. And vice-versa. The fact that Windows Networking under XP doesn't work
    well with it probably doesn't help either.

    IPV6 will be a native part of the network stack in Vista. But will Vista drive
    its popularity?
    <http://nitecruzrnews.blogspot.com/2006/05/does-ipv6-have-future.html>
    http://nitecruzrnews.blogspot.com/2006/05/does-ipv6-have-future.html

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    Chuck, May 26, 2006
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  3. The IP v6 stack is already alive and kicking in Vista (just look at your
    connection's properties). What you need is an IP v6 network to connect to.
    That means IP v6 router(s) and server(s), and these aren't very widespread
    yet. In fact, I haven't yet seen any consumer IP v6 routers or switches yet,
    and professional ones are *way* out of my budget.
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    "Nathan Sokalski" <> a écrit dans le message de ...
    | Those of you that are technical people probably know that IPv6 has existed
    | for several years now (I'd have to check for the exact amount). But none
    of
    | the Internet Service Providers that I have used or looked at since then
    are
    | offering to use it with their customers yet. I realize that it is a major
    | change because of the fact that older software might not be capable of
    | everything, all those people that refuse to upgrade their operating
    systems
    | (my dad still uses Windows 98, even though we have an extra XP system
    | sitting around) may have some problems, and all those companies with
    static
    | IP addresses will need to take care of some stuff. Even though it has some
    | backward compatibilities (It's been a while since I looked over the specs
    | for it, and even though I'm a developer, networking isn't my
    concentration),
    | it will be a big project for everyone. But I stopped hearing about it a
    | while ago, and with all the updates that have been going on lately (IE7
    and
    | the increase in broadband usage, for example), I'm wondering when the
    | project will begin. Does anybody have any information on when the big
    | companies (Microsoft, Verizon, etc.) will start pushing this, and what
    some
    | of the next steps might be?
    | --
    | Nathan Sokalski
    |
    | http://www.nathansokalski.com/
    |
    |
     
    Pierre Szwarc, May 26, 2006
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  4. It will probably be a sensible choice I guess if your entire network is
    using Longhorn Server/Vista.
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    Andre Da Costa [Extended64], May 26, 2006
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    Chuck Guest

    Right.

    So what will get an entire network using Longhorn / Vista? Is there really a
    business case for that?

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    Chuck, May 26, 2006
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  6. No, but Siemens did do a massive roll out of Server 2003 on 8,000 Servers
    and XP on 400,000 desktops, plus Office and XP supports IPv6, so its not
    like the transition would be PITA.
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    Andre Da Costa [Extended64], May 27, 2006
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    Adam Leinss Guest

    Look at computing history for your answer. Our company is still
    running some 16-bit GUI MS-Windows applications. 16-bit GUI MS-Windows
    applications first appeared in Windows 3.0 back in 1990. Now 17 years
    later, Microsoft is finally dropping support for them in the operating
    system. It's even worst for MS-DOS applications: you can run some MS-
    DOS programs from 1981 on existing Windows XP machines. That's _25
    years_ of compatibility!

    IPV6 also yields little to no benefit for most companies. Why drop
    Benjamins on something that doesn't produce immediate results?

    Adam
     
    Adam Leinss, May 27, 2006
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