Is IE7 so much better than Firefox?

Discussion in 'Internet Explorer' started by ~BD~, Dec 20, 2008.

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    Telstar Guest

    You guys are all idiots wasting time and bandwidth.
     
    Telstar, Dec 20, 2008
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    C A Upsdell Guest

    100 binary.
     
    C A Upsdell, Dec 20, 2008
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    ~BD~ Guest



    Hello Pete :)

    112 Errors, 59 warning(s) were found when I submitted the link (shown in
    my first post in this thread) into this facility
    http://validator.w3.org/

    There are 99 Errors, 39 warning(s) when I paste in the second URL I
    mentioned.

    I do not intend to test every page!

    There are clever folk here who will know whether or not this is as it
    should be. I simply notice things! ;)

    I have no idea of the competence of the site owner, but I personally
    find it difficult to understand why errors are ignored or not noticed. I
    have read somewhere on the Microsoft web sites that a 'spoof' web page
    often has errors such as those I have noticed here and also at IdentIT
    Inc.

    Dave
     
    ~BD~, Dec 21, 2008
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    C A Upsdell Guest

    Errors tend to be ignored because (a) many tools to create web pages
    create broken code, (b) many designers don't care, (c) many designers
    test with IE, and stop testing if it works with IE, and (d) IE tries to
    recover gracefully from coding errors by guessing what the designer wanted.

    Errors tend to be fixed because designers test their wonderful IE-tested
    sites with Firefox, Opera, and/or Safari, and scream WHY DON'T THESE
    BROWSERS DISPLAY THE PAGE PROPERLY!!! (Of course, these browsers likely
    do.)

    This may change with IE8, which is supposed to adhere strongly to the
    standards. Those who create broken code are in for a shock.
     
    C A Upsdell, Dec 21, 2008
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    ~BD~ Guest

    Thank you for taking the time and trouble to post again 'C A Upsdell'
    (that sounds very formal, doesn't it?) I appreciate your comments.

    If the web sites in question had been constructed by 'ordinary folk'
    such errors would, perhaps, be understandable. In the cases I mention,
    'professionals' are (supposedly) involved and thus, in my view, should
    be subjected to closer scruitiny (but by whom I don't know!).

    Dave
     
    ~BD~, Dec 21, 2008
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    ~BD~ Guest

    Would you expect that from a site designed to bring someones computer
    back to a pristine state, Rob?

    Just another of my hinky feelings!

    Dave
     
    ~BD~, Dec 21, 2008
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    Fullquoted and crossposted 'that' to *complain* about wasted
    bandwidth?

    Thousands of comedians out of work and this guy just gives it
    away for free. :eek:)
     
    FromTheRafters, Dec 21, 2008
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    rob^_^ Guest

    Chuck Upsdell

     
    rob^_^, Dec 21, 2008
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    ~BD~ Guest

    Thanks, Sammy!

    Dave


     
    ~BD~, Dec 21, 2008
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  10. You're smoking some really bad stuff.

    Richie Hardwick
     
    Richie Hardwick, Dec 21, 2008
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    rob^_^ Guest

    Acid test 3. Don't smoke!

     
    rob^_^, Dec 21, 2008
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    N. Miller Guest

    MS Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3.0.5, Opera 9.62; they all appear the same
    to me.

    --
    Norman
    ~Shine, bright morning light,
    ~now in the air the spring is coming.
    ~Sweet, blowing wind,
    ~singing down the hills and valleys.
     
    N. Miller, Dec 21, 2008
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    N. Miller Guest

    Maybe not, in the browser groups. Borderline interesting in any MSFT group,
    but really only appropriate in a browser group in the 'microsoft.public.*'
    hierarchy.

    --
    Norman
    ~Shine, bright morning light,
    ~now in the air the spring is coming.
    ~Sweet, blowing wind,
    ~singing down the hills and valleys.
     
    N. Miller, Dec 21, 2008
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    ~BD~ Guest

    Perhaps I'm not properly awake yet, but I don't understand your
    response, Norman. Please would you rephrase for me.

    You appear to imply that I'm posting to somewhere other than a
    'microsoft.public.*' newsgroup but, on reflection, I'm sure you don't
    mean that.

    As you changed the groups too, I guess you don't feel that there could
    possibly be an issue of security involved. I hope you are correct.

    Dave
     
    ~BD~, Dec 21, 2008
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    ~BD~ Guest

    It's strange how things look differently to all of us. On closer
    inspection of the page using Internet Explorer 7, I can now spot errors
    *there* which I didn't notice before!!

    I've changed my screen resolution, but I still see those same errors.
    Maybe if you look really carefully, especially on the right hand side of
    the page, you may start to notice too, Norman. Others reading here seem
    to pick up what I do.

    Perhaps you'll let us know if you can see anything amiss after a second
    inspection. Thanks.

    Dave
     
    ~BD~, Dec 21, 2008
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    Rabbit Guest

    JERK!


     
    Rabbit, Dec 21, 2008
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    Rabbit Guest

    JERK!


     
    Rabbit, Dec 21, 2008
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    Rabbit Guest

    Does this website serve up any malware to you, or does it just not look
    pretty? JERK!
     
    Rabbit, Dec 21, 2008
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    N. Miller Guest

    Interesting comments. I did not say that I did not spot any errors, just
    that, as displayed on my screen, they all looked the same. I did not change
    screen resolution, or the dimensions of the window. I did get a report of a
    blocked script in Firefox 3.0.5.

    OTOH, I am used to my browsers rendering non-English sites with non-Roman
    characters, so maybe I don't look at things as critically as I should?

    --
    Norman
    ~Shine, bright morning light,
    ~now in the air the spring is coming.
    ~Sweet, blowing wind,
    ~singing down the hills and valleys.
     
    N. Miller, Dec 21, 2008
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    N. Miller Guest

    You are asking about the differences in the way a non-MSFT browser renders a
    web page, as compared with an MSFT browser. That is, primarily, a browser
    question, and suitable for browser expertise.
    I am not inclined to unnecessary cross posting, though sometimes I fail to
    check the cross posting of articles when I post a followup (and sometimes I
    do cross post when I think another group might have an interest; and get it
    wrong).

    However, in your case, I've just reflexively started trimming the groups, on
    general principles.

    --
    Norman
    ~Shine, bright morning light,
    ~now in the air the spring is coming.
    ~Sweet, blowing wind,
    ~singing down the hills and valleys.
     
    N. Miller, Dec 21, 2008
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