is there a ng for Win 7 ? tia

Discussion in 'Windows Vista Performance' started by Kris, Jan 10, 2009.

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    Kris Guest

    is there a ng for Win 7 ?
    Kris, Jan 10, 2009
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    Night Hawk Guest

    From what I've been hearing from testers you wouldn't have to worr
    about upgrading hardwares at this time if you are already running Vista
    Windows 7 will be a little bit lighter on system resources
    Night Hawk, Jan 10, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    From what I've seen with it, I would agree. Having a bit of trouble with
    sleep function and wondered if there was a ng yet. minor stuff. Win 7 is
    / will be a piece of cake. I love it!
    Kris, Jan 11, 2009
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    Night Hawk Guest

    One unnamed tester was running one of the previous stages with les
    then 512mb of memory and an old Pentium 4 2ghz cpu without difficulty
    When later working with 2gb of memory the performance value wa
    commented on favorably.

    It shows that the refinement of the Vista kernel is starting to b
    noticed. In a sense Windows 7 won't be giving you so much of tha
    "bloated feeling"
    Night Hawk, Jan 11, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    yes, it's faster. it's a bit like Vista on a diet. Still has sxs and
    still chews up about 11gb, a few days after the install. Slight change to
    the taskbar, etc, but users should have an easy time getting used to it.
    As always, some will bitch. But I'll buy it when it comes available. I
    waited for SP1 with Vista. I'll go with the initial release with Win7.
    Kris, Jan 11, 2009
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    Night Hawk Guest

    The 64bit beta version installed like lightning here once booting of
    of the dvd burned. It certainly sees less clutter when unpacking setu
    files onto the hard drive

    On the other hand downloading the 32bit version has been a major tas
    since you may get as far as 574mb and the download drops off due to th
    heavy volume on the MS servers. It took a full day for the 64bit releas
    which saw a steady download and was simply timed out at 90% a few times
    Night Hawk, Jan 11, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    My 32bit came as a genuine from torrent, with key, good to Aug 1, 09

    I don't play with 64 bit because application software just isn't there yet
    - would be lovely if it were! but a lot of the probs I see are specificaly
    on 64bit systems...

    I was unable to d/l from MS because I didn't know the "trick" - use IE, not
    FF for the d/l. If I'm bored, I'll try that on tech net today... just
    checked - nope, not working at the moment. I'll keep trying. They are
    giving out keys like crazy, but I'm guessing it'a only a 30 day build.
    don't know if it's rearmable. (lovely set ov very bad trojans under the
    label of 7PP on the torrents - heehee - I use Avast, but KNOW WHAT YOU ARE
    DOING!!! heehee

    Good to hear about the 64 bit one - yeah I bet it would fly!!! We've got
    all this great hardware under the hood, and very little to use it...

    As to my own build, I succeeded in locking it up yesterday - could boot to
    safe, but not to desktop. Probably after installing Sunbelt firewall. And
    I hadn't made an Acronis image of it yet... Live and learn!!! I'll
    rebuild it sometime this week.

    Just tried the d/l again and it's going - it's honking - 2.3 mb/s
    When you first try it under IE, it will ask you to install a download
    manager from Akamai - do so, then try download again. If it just flashes
    back, wait a few whatevers and click download again - until the save screen
    comes up - point to a partition and directory and let it go!
    Kris, Jan 11, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    d/l done that was quick!
    Kris, Jan 11, 2009
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    Night Hawk Guest

    The beta experience page appeared late there. When going for the 32bi
    beta I kept getting timed out until the download manager appeared alon
    with the download link finally seen on the Windows 7 page at 'Welcom
    to Windows 7' (

    Once you arrive there look for the 'Download the Windows 7 Beta
    "download the Windows 7 beta" link.

    It certainly loads right up faster then Vista right from the start. Bu
    besides being a beta remember you still will be installing a fresh cop
    of Windows without anything else on. Once several programs can be loade
    on that will tell how well it performs.

    I suspect that many rushed out for 6-8gb of memory are going to b
    puzzled :eek: when they have a chance to run the next version
    Night Hawk, Jan 11, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    my current tale of woe - heehee - last install, my IE stopped working.
    That was before it started locking before getting to desktop. Just
    installed again, going very slowly, and it gave me a message that it had to
    chkdsk files on C (Win7), and deleted easily 1000 directory entries. I had
    taken an acronis image before that, so I will restore that and have a
    looksee. My suspicion is that one of the add-ons to FF hosed it, but it
    may have been Acronis itself. ANYTHING that adds services should be
    immediately suspect. Remember that NONE of this stuff has been okayed for
    Win7. It's all a bunch of hee hee, and a lot of giggles if it even works
    at all. But it IS FUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As to memory, I have 2gb - when I tried it with 4 it only used 3 and it ran
    slower (course that memory was clocked slower.....). I doubt it will need
    more than 2gb tops, unless you're running 64bit, and serious CADCAM stuff.
    Kris, Jan 12, 2009
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    Night Hawk Guest

    So far everything that will install has gone on well. The only proble
    run into was running the prebuild of AVG I have saved to a folder wher
    7 crashed while running the initial system scan. I'm still trying to ge
    everything on at the moment and will likely get on the 32bit beta wit

    As for the 64bit version there are no 64bit drivers for dsl here makin
    that a short lived item not being able to connect online fo
    anything(drivers, any updates for software to try out, etc.). :cry: An
    I just got done adding a new pair of 2gb dimms in too
    Night Hawk, Jan 12, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    I'm back up again with another new install - I'm guessing that it was
    Acronis 2009 that hosed the MFT, so I'm doing my images via the standalone
    Kris, Jan 12, 2009
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    Night Hawk Guest

    I'm waiting to get everything on to see if the 32bit beta gets hose
    again by something. :eek: I simply burned the dvd image to disk an
    booted from that to see the installation go on. Make sure everything i
    going good before running Acronis again there
    Night Hawk, Jan 12, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    yes! I have taken lots of images (by booting to CD), but I have NOT
    installed Acronis as I think it hosed the system.

    The MS Update for Realtek LAN may be bad.

    So far, Blu-Ray (WinDVD9br) , OnAir GT HDTV, Puran defrag (done at boot it
    gets the directories), OpenOffice, fireFox, coretemp, SIMeter, DUMeter,
    Avast A/V, Lavasoft AdAware, Roboform, Agent Ransack, Irfanview, T'Bird,
    Registrar registry editer, HDTach, TreeSize, Logitech SetPoint and
    Uberoptions for MX620 mouse, etc... all work just fine. I tried IE7Pro
    but it didn't save the tabs so I took it back off. I used a modified form
    of Langa to remove a bunch of temp stuff. Gibson Reasearch Shields up
    shows stealth. Speakeasy shows the line is good... etc

    Gadgets does nothing other than buzz the HD a bit. nothing's there...

    Yahoo Widgets won't install because it's not a recognized flavor of opsys.

    Oh, be careful of Heidi Eraser - that may have been a cause of some
    problems for me on a previous build. Like the hosed MFT

    So far, on this build, very solid, very fast. No bsod or anything. I

    I miss having Acronis on the system, so I'll try that again in a day or 2
    just after I've taken an image, to be safe.

    Too bad you bought the extra memory, but you can always use it!
    Kris, Jan 12, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    also, I had found this with a previous build - SLEEP doesn't....... but I
    seem to recall that it took them a while to get sleep to work under Vista,
    and now it works perfectly. Maybe build 7001? heehee
    Kris, Jan 12, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    oops - SLEEP works fine if I uncheck the box in Devices / Network Adapters
    / Power mgt tab that says allow it to wake system. Duh! should have
    checked that first!!!
    Kris, Jan 12, 2009
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    Night Hawk Guest

    I see you're running Irfanview and OpenOffice there as well. I've bee
    running AVG 8.0 along with the Wise Registry cleaner-1Click, Wise Dis
    Clean -1click, Spyware Terminator, TBird, SumatraPDF, Adobe, Itunes+QT
    WinRar, FastStone Capture, DOSBox, the Intellipoint 6.2 update for th
    optical Trackball Explorer, even a tv tuner card where the picture i
    greyed out for the time being

    Some other tools like CPUID, PC Wizard 2008, IE new window maximizer
    ImgBurn, StarBurn, Nero 8 Express, and some others will be tossed int
    the mix. As far as gadgets none were seen when trying to select
    Regarding the memory the pair was simply to upgrade from 2gb upto 4g
    which hasn't been a problem with the 32bit build and still reports
    little over 3.5gb total with about 33% in use
    Night Hawk, Jan 12, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    Thanks for the list - just went and tried Sumatra PDF and that's a keeper!
    I'll look at others in there. Thanks!

    Acronis TI home 2009 was/is not the problem - installed (twice) and works
    perfectly. It may have been Heidi that hosed my MFT. Something sure
    did!!! Things are fine now. What do you use for a file / free space DOD
    security eraser? I need a replace met for Heidi...
    Kris, Jan 13, 2009
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    Night Hawk Guest

    For erasers or degaussers I can point at you a few retail ideas whil
    many will simply look for a freeware that writes binary zeros to a har
    drive. The first link has devices for both hard drives and optical medi
    as well. 'Verity Systems Hard Drive Degaussers / Erasers

    For a retail software the WipeDrive software fits the role pretty well
    'Hard Drive Eraser: WipeDrive Hard Drive Eraser is Department of Defens
    Approved' (
    Night Hawk, Jan 13, 2009
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    Kris Guest

    thanks for the links, but, LOL, you're right - I go for the freebies.

    When getting rid of a drive (I build my own stuff, so it's never "part" of
    a computer) , the only safe way is to unscrew the lid, then go at the
    platter(s) for a while with a hammer and chisel such that even a CIA type
    with years on his hands could get nothing other than scrap metal. I do
    have standalone bootable on CD programs that will erase all info, but it
    takes a VERY long time to do even a 40GB drive (I've got 2 I need to

    What Heidi did for me (free) was to give me a choice af about 5 different
    algorithms and changeable number of passes, and allow me to erase just a
    single file, or directory, or all files on a partition - OR it would clear
    overwrite the space between files, and in cluster tips (one partition at a
    time). I used a "pseudorandom data", as I did it often enough that if
    someone wanted to get info that I had deleted, it would take them years.
    That's also a clear reason to compress/defrag directories at boot time - to
    get rid of directory information about deleted files. I do all that and I
    really have nothing on my computer that I wouldn't mind simply giving to
    FBI/CIA and letting them have a look-see. It's folks who cheat on riaa
    that need to worry. I don't think even microsoft actually goes after
    anyone... But I live legal.

    I'll send Heidi a note.

    By the way, Realtek hi-def sound driver R2.14 DOES work just fine on Win 7,
    including the "environment" setup (speaker distances). I use 5.1 .
    Kris, Jan 13, 2009
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